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Old 09-29-2010 | 08:34 PM
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<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Looking for a solution to a problem I am having.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I currently fly a Blade 400 with a 440 motor, 45A esc, 3 HS-56mgs on cyclic, and a hs-5065mg on the tail.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I was flying all afternoon and everything was going great.I decided to take a break for about 15 minutes and placed the 400 in the trunk of my car.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">After 15 minutes I took it out and plugged the battery in.I did a control check and everything was working fine.I spooled up and the helicopter started spinning like</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Crazy.I reset the helicopter by unplugging and plugging the battery back in.I got the usual start up tone and got my head lock light on steady on the gyro.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I spooled up again and it spun again.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">If I spooled up slow enough I was able to hold the heading with no rudder inputs.As soon as I pushed the rudder in any direction the helicopter spun as if it had no head hold</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Capability.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I put on throttle hold and checked the controls again.With rudder input I could move the tail fully in both directions.When I selected rate mode the tail would center like normal.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I decided to remove the stock gyro and install a Futaba 401.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">After installation I check everything again.I spooled up and the helicopter started spinning again.I decided to pick up the helicopter and rock it back and forth to check if the servo was moving to the gyros command.It was not.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Two separate gyros both showing head lock, a servo that moves with stick input but doesn&rsquo;t move with gyro inputs!What could be wrong?Can a crapped out servo still work with stick inputs but not accept inputs from the gyro?</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Has anyone else had this problem or have a suggestion?I am getting frusterated.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I hope I included all the details, if someone would like to help me solve this and needs more info please let me know.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Im ready to get back in the air!!!</div>
Old 09-30-2010 | 01:19 AM
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Sounds like maybe you have some binding in the tail or the control rod to the tail. Try popping the ball link off at the tail servo and move the control rod forward and back. Everything should move very freely with no binding anywhere.
Old 09-30-2010 | 07:23 AM
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How are you setting the gain?
Old 09-30-2010 | 08:15 AM
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Maybe the problem lies in the transmitter. What kind of Tx are you using?
Old 09-30-2010 | 01:34 PM
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I am using a DX6I with the stock reciever for the blade 400.
I checked the controls for binding, everything was good.

I plugged in a new servo to the gyro and it seemed to work, so I plugged my original servo back in and it started working.
I zip tied all my wired and the servo stopped working. If I thiump the gyro with my finger I can see the servo jump around like
it is trying to work.
I found a friends esky gyro and plugged it in, and it seems to work and function with the servo great. I am wondering how I
could have burnt up two gyros within minutes.
I am also using a common sense 45a esc. Do you think it can be giving to much voltage to the reciever and the gyro cant
handle it?
Old 09-30-2010 | 06:25 PM
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So you were saying that the 2 servo was burnt ? i would suspect bindings at this time make sure that the servos are not being obstructed and they can move freely, also check your gyro connections and settings it might be reversed some of the few things i can think of right now.
Old 09-30-2010 | 08:25 PM
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I tried re-binding, that didnt fix anything. No obstructions anywhere.
The servos work correctly except the gyro wont head lock it. Like if you rock the helicopter back and forth, the gyro will correct for it by moving the servo, it doesnt do that.
I tried a third gyro a little while ago and it seemed to work, so maybe I burt up two gyros.
I just can for the life of me figure out why that happened and if it will happen again. I could only assume I am getting to much voltage to the gyro and burning them up.
I will keep tinkering and see what I come up with.
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you say it worked till you tidied the wiring up, may be it's a brake in the wire or a lose plug? it might even be a brake in side the servo,if you have a volt meter you could check to see if you ESC is under 6 volts, but I doubt it's that, chance of having two broken giro's is quite small if there is no under lying course,
one thing worth a check is the head speed or pitch at a hover, if it's to much you might run out of counter force, i.e. not enough tail,
it would be well over the norm of 6 degree's, more like 12 to have that affect but it can happen, just unplug the motor and hold the throttle where it normally hovers on the stick and check the pitch. your know as soon as you put the gauge on, or belt slip can do the same,so the belt is worth a quick check.
I've had servo's that seem fine on the ground but play up in the air, I don't know why, I just put it down to them reaching the end of there life,
If your buying a new servo I found the hitec 5084mg a good up grade from a 5065mg on my 450 and it's just a few $ more, it's a tad bit larger but not much and for the speed is well worth it,

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