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Old 04-05-2011, 01:07 AM
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Default Hydraulic retracts & sequencer delay

Do you think up to 8 seconds would be enough for a hydraulic gear up (or down) sequence before the doors move ?

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Old 04-05-2011, 08:43 AM
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My Mig hydraulic gear takes 8 seconds to retract and I have set the doors to 11 seconds.



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Depends on the system and how fast the motor is and also of your sequencer is using "true" seconds for timing. I say that because I tried using an RCBee sequencer for my hydraulices and it claims it can go up to 8 seconds but it is really more like 4 seconds. That was not enough time for me. I think the best sequencer for hydraulics is the Jettronic one, it uses true seconds and allows for plenty of time as well as differentially timing for up and down.
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Hello Guys,

I am asking this on behalf of a friend who is converting a SM Mig-29 from pneumatics to hydraulics.
He already has the JL-Bee sequencer which claims to go up to 8 seconds delay, well spotted Ian !
I will advise him that he may have to get the Jet-Tronic instead.

John I saw your Mig @ Shawbury and thanks for the advice.
I told my mate how good your A/B rings were !

If you count 8 seconds in your head (1000,2000.........8000) it seems a long time !

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Julian, what system is he using for his pump and controller?
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Hydraulic system from India.
It has been suggested to me that there are better (albeit more expensive) solutions out there ?

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Default RE: Hydraulic retracts & sequencer delay

Thats the one I am running, the UMS. There is a Eurokit version out there that does cost more but I have experience in a side by side comparison. Below is a video I took to do some troubleshooting but it will give you a good idea of how long it takes for my SU's wheels to get up in the plane:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVdezMiwRg[/youtube]
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Default RE: Hydraulic retracts & sequencer delay

Thanks Ian, I shall point my friend Wapflyer to this thread.

I'm sat here watching your video clip with a stop-watch, must get out more !
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Great Julian, hope it helps out! Go to the pub and get a pint, thats getting out right?
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Hi Looks to me like they are not locking out,when locked out they should stay up regardless of presure!!regards Keith
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Are you sure that you do not have any pipes in the way stopping the retract from locking?

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Default RE: Hydraulic retracts & sequencer delay

Oh thanks for the input guys, the system has been fixed since then. There are no mechanical locks, hence the use of the hydraulic system. The problem was a bad check valve, already swapped it out and it works great. I posted the video to illustrate the amount of time it takes for the gear to retract, it was the only video I had.

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