The New F86D Dog Sabre
02-06-2012, 06:25 PM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
For some reason I am unable to upload any pics, will try again tomorrow. I used a Sullivan stopper (has to be the gasoline version, which will not react to the kerosene and leak) and 5/32 brass tube for the vent. The vents need to get to the top of the tanks, so the brass tube that is included may not be long enough. For plumbing between tanks, the vent/overflow and to the UAT, etc., you will need gasoline compatible fuel tubing; most folks use Tygon. I have a schematic of my plumbing layout and a pic of the stopper/vent/fill line/clunk and will upload it as soon as RCU's servers are working.
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02-07-2012, 05:53 AM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times 
02-07-2012, 06:52 AM
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ORIGINAL: Mike06659
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
02-07-2012, 07:47 AM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
ORIGINAL: ModellbauUK
If you get stuck let me know. A jiffybag from the UK won't be much.
ORIGINAL: Mike06659
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
02-07-2012, 08:17 AM
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ORIGINAL: 747junky
You are always trolling around for buisness. Never do you ever post anything usefull except for I have airplanes on sale, I take a poll for airplanes to sell, I can sell you that etc.... STOP you are not an advertiser here and all you do is advertise your make shift company. I don't know how Henry associates with you. You are always begging for buisness it makes you sound desperate.
ORIGINAL: ModellbauUK
If you get stuck let me know. A jiffybag from the UK won't be much.
ORIGINAL: Mike06659
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
Everyone on RCU provides a service be it advice or offer to provide product or service. That's what makes the world go around. How many times have you seen a post "Does anyone know where I can get .........." Only to be told that there was a reference to who supplies this on Forum X Post XXX.
RCU is just a reference point and really my business dealing are none of your business. This is a spin off of my hobby as I run a completely seperate business turning over in excess of £1.5M per year. I do this as a spin off of my hobby and nothing else. I act as a distributor for Henry in the UK & Europe. I do need to shift a few V2's before I can import the V3's, if that makes me sound desperate so be it. I'm desperate to get the V3's into the UK and can't do that until I've shifted the V2's I have in stock.
Thye fees I pay enables me to advertise on RCU be it in the Forum or whereever.
I really cannot understand your gripe and I must say it's a little unfair.
02-07-2012, 05:18 PM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
Here is a pic of the stopper, fill and vent tubes. Since the fuel tanks do not have a lip on them, I cut off all but about 1/8 of the white plastic cap to get the stopper to seal. The second picture is a PowerPoint schematic I made of the fuel system for the F-86. Hope that helps.
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02-08-2012, 02:05 AM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
ORIGINAL: ModellbauUK
Here we go again getting personal!!
Everyone on RCU provides a service be it advice or offer to provide product or service. That's what makes the world go around. How many times have you seen a post "Does anyone know where I can get .........." Only to be told that there was a reference to who supplies this on Forum X Post XXX.
RCU is just a reference point and really my business dealing are none of your business. This is a spin off of my hobby as I run a completely seperate business turning over in excess of £1.5M per year. I do this as a spin off of my hobby and nothing else. I act as a distributor for Henry in the UK & Europe. I do need to shift a few V2's before I can import the V3's, if that makes me sound desperate so be it. I'm desperate to get the V3's into the UK and can't do that until I've shifted the V2's I have in stock.
Thye fees I pay enables me to advertise on RCU be it in the Forum or whereever.
I really cannot understand your gripe and I must say it's a little unfair.
ORIGINAL: 747junky
You are always trolling around for buisness. Never do you ever post anything usefull except for I have airplanes on sale, I take a poll for airplanes to sell, I can sell you that etc.... STOP you are not an advertiser here and all you do is advertise your make shift company. I don't know how Henry associates with you. You are always begging for buisness it makes you sound desperate.
ORIGINAL: ModellbauUK
If you get stuck let me know. A jiffybag from the UK won't be much.
ORIGINAL: Mike06659
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
I'll check Troybuilt for the battery but if someone has one laying around let me know. TBM's shipping can be high for the smallest stuff at times
Everyone on RCU provides a service be it advice or offer to provide product or service. That's what makes the world go around. How many times have you seen a post "Does anyone know where I can get .........." Only to be told that there was a reference to who supplies this on Forum X Post XXX.
RCU is just a reference point and really my business dealing are none of your business. This is a spin off of my hobby as I run a completely seperate business turning over in excess of £1.5M per year. I do this as a spin off of my hobby and nothing else. I act as a distributor for Henry in the UK & Europe. I do need to shift a few V2's before I can import the V3's, if that makes me sound desperate so be it. I'm desperate to get the V3's into the UK and can't do that until I've shifted the V2's I have in stock.
Thye fees I pay enables me to advertise on RCU be it in the Forum or whereever.
I really cannot understand your gripe and I must say it's a little unfair.
These forums are about people shareing experiences and information not for the commercial side of the hobby to peddle their wares
Scarlet
02-08-2012, 03:25 AM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
Point taken and lesson learnt
My wrist has been firmly slapped. Ouch!
My posts will change in future and not refer to selling anymore. Unless someone asks where they can get such and such of course and in that case if I can provide a response it will be done in private
Lets move on now and stop rattling cages like the English Gentleman we are.
My wrist has been firmly slapped. Ouch!
My posts will change in future and not refer to selling anymore. Unless someone asks where they can get such and such of course and in that case if I can provide a response it will be done in private
Lets move on now and stop rattling cages like the English Gentleman we are.
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02-08-2012, 01:11 PM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
Hello All,
I looked at both diagramms for tank plumbing.
I never use a UAT but a simple hopper tank. I fill the tanks by a T-fitting between hopper tank and filter going to the turbine. I have a shut-off valve from Festo behind the pump. When I fill, all the bubbles leave automatically the hopper tank. I prefer 2 tanks in parallel (not in line). The pump has to suck less and you save current. When the the lines from the 2 parallel tank to the T-fittings have the same lenght, they fill and empty the same way.
Best regards
Flilek
Flilek
I looked at both diagramms for tank plumbing.
I never use a UAT but a simple hopper tank. I fill the tanks by a T-fitting between hopper tank and filter going to the turbine. I have a shut-off valve from Festo behind the pump. When I fill, all the bubbles leave automatically the hopper tank. I prefer 2 tanks in parallel (not in line). The pump has to suck less and you save current. When the the lines from the 2 parallel tank to the T-fittings have the same lenght, they fill and empty the same way.
Best regards
Flilek
Flilek
02-08-2012, 07:27 PM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
Couple questions for the day, I am seeing different numbers for an AUW wet with a k80. 16-22 lbs is what I have read in this thread and that is a huge gap? Does anyone have a firm confirmed number with K80 wet?
Also, does the included pipe work with k80 or do I need a different pipe?
Thanks!
Also, does the included pipe work with k80 or do I need a different pipe?
Thanks!
02-08-2012, 09:13 PM
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Couple questions for the day, I am seeing different numbers for an AUW wet with a k80. 16-22 lbs is what I have read in this thread and that is a huge gap? Does anyone have a firm confirmed number with K80 wet?
Also, does the included pipe work with k80 or do I need a different pipe?
Thanks!
Couple questions for the day, I am seeing different numbers for an AUW wet with a k80. 16-22 lbs is what I have read in this thread and that is a huge gap? Does anyone have a firm confirmed number with K80 wet?
Also, does the included pipe work with k80 or do I need a different pipe?
Thanks!
Modellbau says that dry weight with a P60 is 15 pounds and change.......
Take a heavier engine and 2 battery packs plus the A123 3-celll pack and calll the dry weight 17 pounds. Add 3/4 gallon of fuel (say 7 pounds/gallon, so about 4 pounds and we are at 21......
The pipe is correct for teh K80 according to one of the first posts in tis thread from Henry.
Greg
02-08-2012, 09:28 PM
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That makes sense logically, there is a post about it being 16 and change, but some dont say if that wet or dry.
The reason I ask about the pipe is it is much smaller in diameter than my other pipe so just double checking.
If you're annoyed with my questions already we're in trouble, I havent started building it yet!!
02-12-2012, 08:15 AM
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RE: The New F86D Dog Sabre
I had the pleasure of flying the F-86F model during the Korean war and later the F-86D/L model in the I Idaho National guard. Both were great flying planes, one for TAC and
the other for ADC. Also, had the pleasure of ejecting from the L model due to a rocket malfunction. Worked as advertized. Glad some one is looking after some Airplane history.
the other for ADC. Also, had the pleasure of ejecting from the L model due to a rocket malfunction. Worked as advertized. Glad some one is looking after some Airplane history.
02-12-2012, 08:55 AM
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Thanks for your service! I had one deployment in the F-4, then was lucky to fly the F-14 for over 20 years. Regarding your ejection, early on we had the terrible Pratt and Whitney TF-30 in the Tomcat; someone came up with the sarcastic saying 'If it says Pratt and Whitney, it better say Martin-Baker". Martin-Baker was the maker of the F-14 ejection seats.
Regards,
Gus
Regards,
Gus
02-12-2012, 07:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: ED LUNGREN
I had the pleasure of flying the F-86F model during the Korean war and later the F-86D/L model in the I Idaho National guard. Both were great flying planes, one for TAC and
the other for ADC. Also, had the pleasure of ejecting from the L model due to a rocket malfunction. Worked as advertized. Glad some one is looking after some Airplane history.
I had the pleasure of flying the F-86F model during the Korean war and later the F-86D/L model in the I Idaho National guard. Both were great flying planes, one for TAC and
the other for ADC. Also, had the pleasure of ejecting from the L model due to a rocket malfunction. Worked as advertized. Glad some one is looking after some Airplane history.
I used to play tennis with a retired 3-star who said more than once (knowing my love of airplanes and my father's combat history) that the '86 in all it's forms was the ultimate in an airplane: the feel for the plane was there, and the hydraulics just helped.
Envious for your first parts (the "enjoyable parts") and glad I never had to do the second part of your post.
(And REALLY glad someone had the forsite (OK.....The spelling is wrong, but after 13 hours in the car and the spell-checker playing games, please forgive me....) and humor, to keep some of theses airplanes alive for us today)
Greg