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Old 02-28-2012 | 07:29 AM
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I have a set of esm struts and wheels. Thought they LOOKED great for the price. Then I got em and installed them and lordy.....THEYRE JUNK!!!!!!
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You know i remember when i first got in this hobby my instructor told me if you cant afford to buy good equipment that is proven and safe then you have chosen the wrong hobby , so many times we chose a cheap product and when it fails we get mad , well if you can't afford to buy the good proven parts and equipment that is your choice and you will pay the price of a plane or other damage , the choice is yours , but as for me i shall purchase tested and proven products , confidence has no price you either afford it or you buy garbage !!!!!!!!!
Thank you !! i have doing r/c for many years. i make no claim to be an expert but i have BUILT and flown just about everything out there. i have watched the chinese kill our kit companies with cheap ARF's and now they are after our engine companies and our gear companies. They flood us with inferior products at cut throat prices then when we get run out of business they have free rein to do what ever they want. Go try to buy parts for those cheap retracts after you bend one. let me know how that works out. just my opinion . Be American... Buy American
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Warbird you are so right and your welcome just stating the truth , this is my hobby have been in since 1985 love it , but if you use inferior products tryingto save a buck , someone is going to get hurt , think about it ,, all my planes are 50cc gas engines up to 150cc DA made in america not Going to put junk in my planes , i use to fly Kraft but have been flying futaba for 8 years now YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG DONT MAKE HER A BEAUTY QUEEN!!!!!
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Is Kyosho American?  Are OS Engines American?  Is Futaba American?  We live in a WORLD not just one country.  And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country.  Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets.  I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns.  The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke.  And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement.  When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine.  Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my "friends" that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me.  Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito.  And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China.  So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40.  And you can worry about destroying your "investment"" while I just have fun with my toy.</p>
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PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG DONT MAKE HER A BEAUTY QUEEN!!!!!
To quote a line from an excelent song:
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
better make an ugly woman your wife.

Some queens have a tendancy to always look for something better.Bacon isjust good eatin's.
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Is Kyosho American? Are OS Engines American? Is Futaba American? We live in a WORLD not just one country. And hopefully we are trying to make a better world, not just a better country. Most of us (maybe not the seemingly elite group of jet fliers) live on budgets. I have built and/or assembled many different planes over the years and buget has always been one of my primary concerns. The most expensive engine I used was a Saito 50 4-stroke. And it broke just as bad as the used Fox 40 I had when it hit the pavement. When I crashed that and the Ace CloudDancer it was in I got back into flying in less than a month with a $50 Uproar and a $50 Tower 40 engine. Flying was a lot more important to me than showing all my ''friends'' that I could spend $5000 on an airplane someone else built for me. Several Tower 40s, one OS 30, an MDS 62 (cheap Russian made) and the Saito. And the Tacon electric 60-sze motor I now have was made in China. So if you want to put a Webra on a Top Flite kit I'll fly alongside with a Tower Uproar with a Tower 40. And you can worry about destroying your ''investment'''' while I just have fun with my toy.</p>
better world? aw hahahahaha i care abut American that's it. we give enough away world wide. i fly within a budget myself . so you telling me that you'd buy overseas just to save 50.00 on a 600.00 engine? that's what wrong with things these days. i fly gas only ,but i'd never buy a DLE. even if they were good engines.
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:11 AM
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Well I'm not American but here comes an American demanding everyone else be American too. I have many US friends but a statement like "buy american BE american" is why you guys are getting such a terrible rep around the world. I totally agree that some chinese groups are devaluing products, but I can't believe people come on here and make statements like that when 80 percent of your daily duties/lives/homes/cars/facilites are built with the "Made In China" stamp.

Too little too late buddy.
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:13 AM
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we are getting a terrible rep around the world because of our dumb a president but he will soon be gone!!!!!@!!!!! THANK GOD
I also fly within my budget not my fault i make 6 figure income !!!!!!!!!! so i do not have to skimp and as far as Futaba it is one of the top line radios has been for years it is made in Japan because we sent everything over there because they work CHEAP we don't !!!!!!!
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:13 AM
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i fly gas only
So why do you post so much on the jet threads?
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:16 AM
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i fly gas only
So why do you post so much on the jet threads?
you have me confused with someone else. i haven't hardly posted on the jet forum and haven't in a very long time. besides i was referring to gas vs. glow. so what's it to you?
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:19 AM
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Aaaaaaannnndddd your back!
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:21 AM
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Well I'm not American but here comes an American demanding everyone else be American too. I have many US friends but a statement like ''buy american BE american'' is why you guys are getting such a terrible rep around the world. I totally agree that some chinese groups are devaluing products, but I can't believe people come on here and make statements like that when 80 percent of your daily duties/lives/homes/cars/facilites are built with the ''Made In China'' stamp.

Too little too late buddy.
i'm not going to apologize for being an American to ANYONE especially to someone who lives in a socialist country. I'm proud to be an american and it takes a lot of guts to criticize someone who doesn't live in the same country and is using an AMERICAN website to do it.
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:24 AM
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You are right warbird i also refuse to apologize for being a american just sorry for our socialist president but he will be gone shortly!!!!
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Don't apologize for being American. Be proud of it. Just don't try to make everyone else on the planet American. Please try? I know it's difficult. Anyhow back to jets.
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:27 AM
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The good Ole US of A is still the best country in the world. We don't need to apologize to our commie neighbors to the north, or to any country for that matter.

As many problems as we have with our international policy, our domestic policy is still the best in the WORLD.

And, back to the topic, I hate, hate, HATE(!!!!) gear problems. I won't go cheap in this department. I can still afford (thank goodness) BVM's good stuff for pneumatics and I'll continue to use BVM gear in any jet I can.
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Canadians are Commies? Now were did I put my furry hat with a red star on it?


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The good Ole US of A is still the best country in the world. We don't need to apologize to our commie neighbors to the north, or to any country for that matter.

As many problems as we have with our international policy, our domestic policy is still the best in the WORLD.

And, back to the topic, I hate, hate, HATE(!!!!) gear problems. I won't go cheap in this department. I can still afford (thank goodness) BVM's good stuff for pneumatics and I'll continue to use BVM gear in any jet I can.
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Old 02-28-2012 | 10:49 AM
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Wow, this thread is spinning out of control, I think all the OP wanted to do is show a alternative retracts that may or may not be suitable for a given application, it too bad everything has to turn political[:'(]
Old 02-28-2012 | 10:51 AM
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Don't apologize for being American. Be proud of it. Just don't try to make everyone else on the planet American. Please try? I know it's difficult. Anyhow back to jets.
i wouldn't go that far in calling our best neighbors commies. i have a lot of Canadian friends that i value highly . i enjoy going up there and flying with them. i just get touchy about non Americans telling me what's wrong with my country. i know what's wrong with it but i have to wait till November to try to fix it. i don't expect people to conform to the "American way" but to just be respectful of us good or bad and i will do the same.
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Wow, this thread is spinning out of control, I think all the OP wanted to do is show a alternative retracts that may or may not be suitable for a given application, it too bad everything has to turn political[:'(]
hey rich, it's always political weather it's political or not lol how have you been? doing titusville this year?
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as far as the gear goes . i have seen a lot of "overseas" stuff just plain fall apart or bend way to easy. i have been a robart fan for years. mostly because i can call with questions or to order parts etc. you can't beat a real person to talk to. i have a boomer intro and have spring airs that have been flawless. i chose that plane because we have no paved strips here and the wire gear take a lot of abuse as where the scale birds don't fair so well.
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Hi I am new to tubines and live in pittsburgh. When is the Titusville event. I have been doing duct fan stuff but want tomove on up to turbine flying. I recently purchased a version 2 foremost 150. I think it should be called the forskin minus 150 as that is what cost from nitro models. It is going to need major work before I shove a turbine in it. Might just shove a fan in and not care.
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Hi I am new to tubines and live in pittsburgh. When is the Titusville event. I have been doing duct fan stuff but want tomove on up to turbine flying. I recently purchased a version 2 foremost 150. I think it should be called the forskin minus 150 as that is what cost from nitro models. It is going to need major work before I shove a turbine in it. Might just shove a fan in and not care.
you might want to consider weather the airframe can handle a turbine without self destructing in flight.
Old 02-28-2012 | 11:28 AM
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hey anyone in here going to perry ga swap meet this weekend, and hey canadians are not commies they are our friend as we are theirs , these planes i fly now dont use retracts bur use to use robarts a few years ago , and used spring air also both were good it seemed anyway
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that was when i was flying pattern planes , used retracts to keep the air clean over the plane, dick hensen tipo , f2a and such
wow that brings back memories all day and only getting to fly 3 rounds but it sure was a lot of fun!!!


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