Rainman-ACRF

Here you go :-

[link]http://www.rainman.uklinux.net/movies/Harpoon_solo.wmv[/link]

Phil

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just wanted to revive this thread for some rookie builders ,at this time,...very helpful,.....read it all from page 1 ......add to it to keep info in 1 large thread.. HOW TO BUILD A ROOKIE...

turbinelover

daytona kid,

Thank you for the help here is how i joined my ailerons on my rookie to make one
I used sand paper to make the gap to 1/16'' then i filled the gap with 1/16'' ply.
Then I filled the holes for the other servo and horn now I will putty prime and paint the plane.

regards
turbinelover

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did u put metal rod in trailin edge or something inside to beef up connection point ? and everyone [except k falcon] usually uses the inbrd servo but i guess it will work like u got it too..

KFalcon

My Feedback: (18)

I didn't use the rod for support and I too use the outboard servo mount. Works great.

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i fixed my last statement kenny...here,s almost all rookie threads to datehttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/searchpro.asp?p=1&author=&minRank=0&advancedMatch=on&language=single&message=subject&submitbutton=OK&timeframe=%3C&top=300&phrase=rookie&forumid=120&topicreply=topic&timefilter=%2D1&sortMethod=d

turbinelover

I love this rookie form!!!

help help what glue did you all use to glue the fiberglass horns in the wing & rudder.

and no i did not use a rod i installed 1/16'' ply in the gap.

regards,
turbinelover

KFalcon

My Feedback: (18)

Slow cure epoxy. Make sure the arms go all the way through the foam and attach to the bottom skin of the elevons.

KFalcon

My Feedback: (18)

Woketman

My Feedback: (6)

I would be very careful about putting a metal rod in the trailing edge of a control surface on a jet. That adds a lot of mass far from the hinge line (lots of rotational moment of inertia). This could easily cause that surface to flutter at a far far slower speed than it would have without the metal rod's mass. Not good.

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thnx wocket, i got that rod idea from earlier in this thread..other rookie flyers suggested metal rod worked without problems.. i,m talking about a very small rod, 440 x 4 inch , not much more weight than the epoxy,,,but a popsicle stick epoxied in there would work too, i,m sure, and be lighter.. but my jet flys very fast with no flutter..so far .................................................. ............................
[quote]ORIGINAL: Kevin Greene

KFalcon,

I'm using JR 8411's on my elevons but I modified my plane so that I'm using only one servo per elevon. I glued my elevons together and Aeropoxied a 4/40 steel rod in place inside of the elevons at the trailing edge. They are flex free. Some may not approve of this but I'm not overpowering my plane, nor do I fly " balls to the wall" full throttle all of the time. I have used this setup in several HotSpots without issue.

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here is a little thread about elevon control horns..but if you have anything to add , plz add it to this thread, to keep this info all in one spot.. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1260073/anchors_1260073/mpage_1/key_rookie%252Ccontrol%252Chorns/anchor/tm.htm#1260073

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inbrd wing servo or outbrd ?.....IMO.... one deciding factor for me was the inbrd servo spot has more room , due to wing being thicker, which seemed to help installing and rigging, for several reasons.. .it was tuff enough getting everything in and working right [max throws, even throws , no fouling arm clearances, keeping rod exit hole size small,,etc.,] in the larger spot.. it would seem to me it would be even tuffer with less room outbrd...also lead is shorter.. but i don,t think which servo spot used is a critical isssue as far as flight safety..its up to the builder..here is a nice paint jobhttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_2272582/anchors_2272582/mpage_1/key_rookie/anchor/tm.htm#2272582

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someone asked about thrust vector pipes in another thread ,but i,m putting this here ,to keep as much rookie info here as we can....tam sells this vector pipe..it goes up/down [ like stock ], and left/right ..does anyone know of others being sold ?http://www.tamjets.com/id61.htm

volon

hello i have rookie with a p-80 and the airplane weght 18.25 pound and my problem is the cg i balace the plane at 4" in frot of the wing tube and my problem is the nose of the plane is very sensiyeve to seat back the plane if have any tips for this please let me know.

Glorfindel

Not sure about the rookie but for the Roo2 the cg is almost on the main so yes the plane tend to sit on his 'tail' when he's empty.

volon

thank you for your tip, that's the problem i'm having so, if it like that i'll check with full tank.



Thank you again, and don't worry my english is not that good either.

Glorfindel

It will be ok with the tank full. It's a great plane to fly.

Mavpro

Here we go again. I built a Comp ARF 2,6 m Extra one year ago. Last year I bought a Rookie, and I'm just about to start "building" it. Now; why the h*** did they even bother to predrill all the holes for the wing dowels? None of the holes match the others when trying to fit the brass pins. Also, I discovered that the entire upper skin on the right wing is not glued in contact with the spar. Yes, there is plenty of glue on the spar, but the skin is not glued to it. I can also see things like this on the main gear formers...plenty of glue, but no contact with the skin. Things like this really makes me mad, especially when there is no shop in the neighburhood where I could carry the **** back, and claim my money back! [:@]

FLY200

Sorry guys. Newb questions:

Confused by this thread if Harpoon and Rookie are different air frames?

Currently looking at Kangaroo, Boomerang, and now Rooking........but need some help. More Kangaroos for sale at the moment in my area.

All the vids I see don't show either delta type doing any simple rolls, inverts, etc..... Do they?

Budgy545

So the general consensus is that the Rookie will fly with a P60. I have this turbine installed in a Boomerang and it would be great to be able to transfer the P60 to a Rookie at some stage.

Jeremy_D

I fly my rookie with a pst600R and it is a great combination, I get 10 mins easily with power settings between 1/2 and full. I also balanced it back on the C.G and it is a delight to fly. I don't have vectored thrust set up on it and was wondering if it would be worth using it with the smaller engines? Does it make much difference with flight and landings or is it only good when using a larger engine like a P80 or higher.

Cheers

Jeremy

hotspot 01

Ive had my rookie flying for the past couple of years with no major problems apart from the UC mounts. I think it comes out at about 19 lbs with a simjet 1700 putting out 20lbs. I also have a hotspot which suffered from long take off runs with a 17lb thrust motor this all brings me to say that the vectoring thrust on the rookie makes all the differance when operating of grass. Ive had it get airborne after about 30 meters the hotspot with the same motor combination took 60 meters.

Jeremy_D

Mine is nice off grass because it is fairly light, just wondering if I would gain any advantage with using Vector thrust at all.. will it do different manouvers etc..?

Budgy545

8-12Kg specified on Composite-ARF website for the Rookie which means either the P80 or P120. Is the P60 ok with the thrust vectoring?