rcguy59

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As soon as they figure out how to get the production costs down, TBM will buy the rights to it...

az3d

My Feedback: (59)

I think they carry his jets at hobby king and tower now.

Carbon-Customs

yes the flying was great... but that wassent the builder flying.. and the build quality is crap, and yes it flew.. wow... and landed even more wow... just the fact that the starter of the engine sound so terrible and he does nothing to fix it.... i cant have respect in any way

j.p.fillon

<span id="result_box" lang="en" closure_uid_981684556="125" xd="null" a="undefined" c="4"><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8867" xd="null">Hello</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8868" xd="null">to all</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8945" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8869" xd="null">I</span><span closure_uid_981684556="8870" xd="null">'m new to this</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8871" xd="null">practice</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8872" xd="null">forum.Je</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8873" xd="null">jet</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8874" xd="null">for more than twenty</span> <span class="hps atn" closure_uid_981684556="8875" xd="null">years (</span><span closure_uid_981684556="8876" xd="null">Byron</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8877" xd="null">turbine</span><span closure_uid_981684556="8878" xd="null">)</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8879" xd="null">and now:</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8880" xd="null">Rafale,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8881" xd="null">Mirage,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8882" xd="null">Sukhoi</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8883" xd="null">35, all</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8884" xd="null">AD</span><span class="atn" closure_uid_981684556="8885" xd="null">-</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8887" xd="null">with Jets-</span><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8888" xd="null">Munt</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8889" xd="null">turbines</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8946" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8890" xd="null">I am a friend</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8891" xd="null">of the guy</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8892" xd="null">from the video:</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8893" xd="null">Mr.</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8894" xd="null">Albert</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8895" xd="null">Angeli.</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8947" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8896" xd="null">This</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8897" xd="null">is a lovely man</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8898" xd="null">who</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8899" xd="null">has many ideas</span><span closure_uid_981684556="8900" xd="null">,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8901" xd="null">he realizes</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8902" xd="null">himself.</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8948" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8903" xd="null">While</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8904" xd="null">his accomplishments</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8905" xd="null">are</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8906" xd="null">in</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8907" xd="null">the standard</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8908" xd="null">we would want</span><span closure_uid_981684556="8909" xd="null">, they fly</span><span closure_uid_981684556="8910" xd="null">,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8911" xd="null">not too bad.</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8949" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8912" xd="null">I can say</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8913" xd="null">that apart from</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8914" xd="null">once,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8915" xd="null">he never</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8916" xd="null">endangered</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8917" xd="null">the lives of</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8918" xd="null">other friends and</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8919" xd="null">the public,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8920" xd="null">always</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8921" xd="null">flying</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8922" xd="null">in the rules of</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8923" xd="null">the club.</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8950" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8924" xd="null">I can also say</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8925" xd="null">that</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8926" xd="null">I saw</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8927" xd="null">jets,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8928" xd="null">built</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8929" xd="null">in standards,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8930" xd="null">crashing</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8931" xd="null">too.</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8951" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8932" xd="null">Which did</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8933" xd="null">not crash</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8934" xd="null">a plane</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8935" xd="null">cast the first</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8936" xd="null">stone.</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8952" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8937" xd="null">Soon,</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8938" xd="null">the pleasure of reading</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8939" xd="null">your contributions</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8940" xd="null">on</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_981684556="8941" xd="null">other topics.</span><br closure_uid_981684556="8953" xd="null" /><span class="hps atn" closure_uid_981684556="8942" xd="null">Jean-</span><span closure_uid_981684556="8943" xd="null">Pierre</span></span>

Couch Potato

Awesome !

A happy man enjoying his hobby without any bullsh1t or politics.

airega1

My Feedback: (204)

Sometimes you just have to draw the line somewhere, how safe was this pile to actually fly with a turbine no less.

OldRookie

My Feedback: (13)

After reading this thread, I can finally see what what people are referring to with the term "Jet Snob".

Greg

Carbon-Customs

i dont agree!

its not about the money. its about the quality. it wouldent be more expensive to do it right.

and those who think this is a decent job. they should really get their eyes fixed at a doctor.

Xairflyer

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Excellent what the hobby is about, the jet scene is too much cheque book modelling, yes greg you are correct.
Just curious how a model jet video managed to get 18M views, that is a lot for a minority sport.

ARUP

Good pilotage. I like the use of the fire extinguisher to re-insulate the wiring after the hot start. Masterful!

j.p.fillon

<div class="mttextarea" id="TranslationOutput" dir="ltr"><div class="force_dir"><font _msthash="777192" _mstsrchtml="Le Montage de la video donne l'impression que cela a été fait tout de suite après ." lang="en">The installation of the video gives the impression that this was done immediately after.</font></div><div class="force_dir"><font _msthash="777193" _mstsrchtml="Il y a eu un contrôle avant le deuxième démarrage." lang="en">There was a control before the second start.</font></div><div class="force_dir"><font _msthash="777194" _mstsrchtml="Cordialement" lang="en">Kind regards</font></div></div>

stevekott

Don't forget the real reason why we do this hobby. Because it's FUN and EXCITING. Yes we need to throw some safety stuff in there so nobody gets hurt. We've all seen some very expensive high quality models meet their demise from a "dumb thumb" or a simple building error. You've got to admit this European "Redneck" model is both fun and exciting. As long as he's not getting in the way of somebody elses fun and safety .. Fly on with a big smile on your face!


P.S. : Don't fly over me, my house or my car.<br type="_moz" />

OldRookie

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Uh...Just what I was pointing out.
Unbelievable that YOU would be the one to reply to my post with a negative input.
HA

Greg

Carbon-Customs

why is that unbelievable?

Shaun Evans

LOL,

You don't have to be a snob to recognize borrowed time when you see it. You also don't have to be an Olympic swimmer to know when someone is drowning. The fact that the jet is seen taking off then landing in one piece has every bit as much to do with luck as it does anything else. The aircraft would never, ever pass a safety inspection at any of the fields I fly at, provided the club had at least one good eye. Money has nothing whatever to do with it. It's about attitude. If your attitude is, "We don't need no steenkeen seam reinforcement" or "what's a few overheated lines among friends?" then you're just an RC-related fatality waiting to happen. It really pisses me off when people take a cavalier approach to safety as though it's only their investment in jeopardy. Once that thing comes apart, you can't control what damage it does or doesn't do. Again, it's not a question of money. Plenty of guys over here are flying jets every bit as crappy (but with better paint jobs and prettier-although-less-functional landing gear) jets that cost thousands.

Guys like Eddie Weeks proved long ago that you could build sound, flyable DIY models on a shoestring without being reckless or apathetic about it.

Carbon-Customs

nice to know im not the only one thinking the same way.

warbirdfanatic

My Feedback: (1)

Exactly! I completely admire the pilot for making it fly and land quite well but it isn't about this at all, this build is built too poorly, I don't think a week is good enough because that's just rushing things, even BVM take longer to build their jets and they have some of the best equipment available! This jet is built on complete luck and luck eventually runs out with a negative outcome!

This is nothing to do with snobbery at all, as I said before, you don't have to have money to own a jet, as long as you're skilled enough to produce some decent results then money does not come into it! I only use epoxies and these cost £30 for 2 kilo's and that's more than enough for one bird, carbon cloth at 1M is around £16, this is cheap in my eyes and is just the same as what the manufacturers use, there's no snobbery or money in that at all!

The guy would have been better off carving a foamie and then laminate it with 48gsm GRP and this would be much safer!

Joe Westrich

My Feedback: (95)

+1....

This isn't even just a jet issue. I sometimes see larger prop warbirds that I never turn my back on when they go for a flight. All airframes have an expiration date but you know the guys that expire early. I still admire the fact that he scratched built the jet, but it needs to be finished to a safer standard.

MJD

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Bang on. Doesn't matter what is is.. jet, glow, electric. Every day people take off and fly models that are a hair's breadth from disaster for a host of reasons. If you're going to fly something rough and ready, at least do it far away from others.

And then.. there is the issue of safe models piloted by fools. Just as dangerous but they make it through safety inspection.

az3d

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I really don't see the reason to say this jet was not safe. I did not see any houses in the video. It was probably a hazard to itself and some dirt. I applaud the guy for building it.

Shaun Evans

Yeah!

Cuz heaven knows an out-of-control missile like a jet held together with a band-aid and a prayer needs to hit a house in order to hurt someone...

j.p.fillon

<span id="result_box" lang="en" closure_uid_937625235="125" c="4" a="undefined" xd="null"><span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2807" xd="null">What</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2808" xd="null">is</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2809" xd="null">potentially</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2810" xd="null">the most dangerous</span><span closure_uid_937625235="2811" xd="null">!</span><br closure_uid_937625235="2839" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2812" xd="null">A jet that</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2813" xd="null">weighs 14</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2814" xd="null">kgs</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2815" xd="null">with a</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2816" xd="null">turbine</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2817" xd="null">10 kgs</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2818" xd="null">thrust</span><span closure_uid_937625235="2819" xd="null">, albeit with</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2820" xd="null">son</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2821" xd="null">and piping</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2822" xd="null">bulk, but</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2823" xd="null">no</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2824" xd="null">contact</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2825" xd="null">dangerously.</span><br closure_uid_937625235="2840" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2826" xd="null">Or a</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2827" xd="null">jet</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2828" xd="null">of 21</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2829" xd="null">kgs</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2830" xd="null">of</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2831" xd="null">weight with</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2832" xd="null">30 kgs</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2833" xd="null">of</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2834" xd="null">turbine</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2835" xd="null">thrust</span><span closure_uid_937625235="2836" xd="null">?</span><br closure_uid_937625235="2841" xd="null" /><span class="hps" closure_uid_937625235="2837" xd="null">J.Pierre</span></span>

Giant_Scale_Gasser

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Wasn't anymore dangerous than the long line of newbies that pile up trainer after trainer after trainer every weekend because they don't know how to install radio gear, balance a model or fly...

This hobby is supposed to be fun and we are supposed to help one another enjoy model airplanes. All I ever hear or see is the guys with deep pockets (and a high dollar plane in which their ONLY participation in creating was to slide their Visa card) for the most part, just rip everybody else.
I have listened to it and Big Bird events, I hear it on weekends at the local field and all I do is read that trash here.

Sure, the guys jet wasn't going to win Top Gun or any scale contests, but I have a feeling he has more fun than most of you do.

Man this hobby is turning into a bad episode of the "Housewives of the Radio Controlled Elite"...

Carbon-Customs

i simply cant believe the amount of people in this thread that think the "BIG 29" is OK as long as hees having fun...

i diddent think that even a idiot would find that quality fit for flight. not even a person with his first trainer ARF.

I posted this video, so we all could have a laugh over the misrable quality, not matter if we fly 20000$ jets or 100$ foarmies...

AndyAndrews

Yeah, that vid has been out for a few years. Hey, it looks and flys better than some import ARFs I've seen on the market today. Just because its a sloppy detail doesn't mean it's not structurally sound. I've also seen worse installs.