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Old 05-23-2013, 06:34 PM
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Please post pics of the formers.
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Here is the video Boli made showing how bad the damage is. Again, must be the save of the century!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgLlt2ziHIQ&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
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WOW!!!  Great save!  Where was this taken at??
Old 05-23-2013, 06:49 PM
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Unf*cking believable.....[:@]

NOTE: My elevator is not based on the aluminum bracket instead its plywood based

can you post pictures of the elevator?

It does have the same out put shaft drive that you are using.
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GreÃ*t

This is the jet I paid for 18 weeks ago and opened a thread about getting a refund for....only to be told its "shipping" next week..now I really need to pursue a refund even harder

Maybe they will give me a different jet instead of a refund ..this f18 is obviously not ready for primetime


that must have been an amazing save because that tail is torn up.
Great job and thanks for posting this...it should help me as I plead my case with fej


Anthony
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Amazing save Boli. Well done!
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GreÃ*t

This is the jet I paid for 18 weeks ago and opened a thread about getting a refund for....only to be told its ''shipping'' next week..now I really need to pursue a refund even harder

Maybe they will give me a different jet instead of a refund ..this f18 is obviously not ready for primetime


that must have been an amazing save because that tail is torn up.
Great job and thanks for posting this...it should help me as I plead my case with fej


Anthony

Don't expect anything. They'll just say the elevator fluttered because of batteries or a missing screw. Maybe they'll include a package of Energizers and some extra bolts with your F18.
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ORIGINAL: x3dflyer

GreÃ*t

This is the jet I paid for 18 weeks ago and opened a thread about getting a refund for....only to be told its ''shipping'' next week..now I really need to pursue a refund even harder

Maybe they will give me a different jet instead of a refund ..this f18 is obviously not ready for primetime


that must have been an amazing save because that tail is torn up.
Great job and thanks for posting this...it should help me as I plead my case with fej


Anthony

Don't expect anything. They'll just say the elevator fluttered because of batteries or a missing screw. Maybe they'll include a package of Energizers and some extra bolts with your F18.

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I just look the video.
Once again...pivot point also too far back one problem right there.
The next is how the mechanical linkage set up?
Here how I would think proper pivot point for the F-18 stabs
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I don't know, at this point I am very concerned about all of the honey comb jets FEJ is making. We could be in for some very serious accidents if these jets are not grounded until more is known about how to prevent these structural failures. Current FEJ owners, do you really want to take the chance that someone might get seriously injured or killed flying one of these?
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Nice save, at least you still have the gear.
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I don't know, at this point I am very concerned about all of the honey comb jets FEJ is making. We could be in for some very serious accidents if these jets are not grounded until more is known about how to prevent these structural failures. Current FEJ owners, do you really want to take the chance that someone might get seriously injured or killed flying one of these?
Honeycone was the least problem.
First is to prevent the flutter.
Once it flutter. It doesn't matter if you had solid wood. The energy of the flutter will isolate to the next weak point.
Some how I can't post pictures.
It sill give me 500 erro code.
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No, Andy we don't. But to prevent us from flying??? Not going to happen! ALL jets can crash, hurt, kill, and fail. So saying this to ALL FEJ owners is wrong and I think you know that?
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I don't know, at this point I am very concerned about all of the honey comb jets FEJ is making. We could be in for some very serious accidents if these jets are not grounded until more is known about how to prevent these structural failures. Current FEJ owners, do you really want to take the chance that someone might get seriously injured or killed flying one of these?
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I agree with Andy given that two large FEJ honeycomb planes experienced this issue. Why take a chance? When Quique model company got wind of a possible issue with the wing on his Yak he advised them not to be flown until he could investigate. GJC just issued a similar warning on one of the Fei Bao models. These are toy planes and it is not life or death if can't fly them while this matter is looked into. To keep flying these planes without further investigation is negligent IMO.
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Great save.....
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I have to say that in-somewhat this stands, But taking that I am going to have 100 hours in my AT3 redoing it.... I am not going to not fly it. Now if one just throws it together than that is a different story, isn't it??
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I agree with Andy given that two large FEJ honeycomb planes experienced this issue. Why take a chance? When Quique model company got wind of a possible issue with the wing on his Yak he advised them not to be flown until he could investigate. GJC just issued a similar warning on one of the Fei Bao models. These are toy planes and it is not life or death if we ground them while this matter is looked into. To keep flying these planes without further investigation is negligent IMO.
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Full scale flutter. Enough to stain your shorts.

http://youtu.be/pEOmCkZyXzk
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I would really like to know what the people who have this jet and have flown it without problems have done, same for the f-14. They have sold these to people all over the world and I have seen youtube videos of them flying. If they did mods seeing what they did could help current owners.
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Turbine CD's TAKE NOTICE! I mentioned my ZERO Tolerance policy on these HC beasts in another thread. Hopefully, now, we can get more CD's around the country to sign on and prevent these jets from flying at our events or local club, without extensive inspection and strong consideration if you even want to allow the flights! I, for one, will make every effort to prevent these jets being flown at my field! How many bullets do we want to attempt to dodge before something ugly happens?![:'(]

Beave, I'm sure that FEJ will blame this on your modifications. But the simple fact is that when we attempt to re-engineer these aircraft, all we do is transfer the stress to the next weakest link in the airframe! Without adequate testing, that FEJ obviously has not chosen to do, there is no way to know what the end result will be. This is a perfect example!

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ORIGINAL: David Searles

Turbine CD's TAKE NOTICE! I mentioned my ZERO Tolerance policy on these HC beasts in another thread. Hopefully, now, we can get more CD's around the country to sign on and prevent these jets from flying at our events or local club, without extensive inspection and strong consideration if you even want to allow the flights! I, for one, will make every effort to prevent these jets being flown at my field! How many bullets do we want to attempt to dodge before something ugly happens?![:'(]

Beave, I'm sure that FEJ will blame this on your modifications. But the simple fact is that when we attempt to re-engineer these aircraft, all we do is transfer the stress to the next weakest link in the airframe! Without adequate testing, that FEJ obviously has not chosen to do, there is no way to know what the end result will be. This is a perfect example!

David S


Glad that you're holding your ground on this.
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SORRY, but YOU are NOT what we need as a "CD" or representing anyone with AMA or any other organization!
ORIGINAL: David Searles

Turbine CD's TAKE NOTICE! I mentioned my ZERO Tolerance policy on these HC beasts in another thread. Hopefully, now, we can get more CD's around the country to sign on and prevent these jets from flying at our events or local club, without extensive inspection and strong consideration if you even want to allow the flights! I, for one, will make every effort to prevent these jets being flown at my field! How many bullets do we want to attempt to dodge before something ugly happens?![:'(]

Beave, I'm sure that FEJ will blame this on your modifications. But the simple fact is that when we attempt to re-engineer these aircraft, all we do is transfer the stress to the next weakest link in the airframe! Without adequate testing, that FEJ obviously has not chosen to do, there is no way to know what the end result will be. This is a perfect example!

David S


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David S is exactly what we need. Someone to stand up for the safety of others.

The response from FEJ will be something like this:

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David: May I ask how many models you lost so far?

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I would really like to know what the people who have this jet and have flown it without problems have done, same for the f-14. They have sold these to people all over the world and I have seen youtube videos of them flying. If they did mods seeing what they did could help current owners.
They are mostly hangar queens or flown NASCAR style. 99% of the Youtube videos are of FEJ planes flying around in circles.
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ORIGINAL: FenderBean

I would really like to know what the people who have this jet and have flown it without problems have done, same for the f-14. They have sold these to people all over the world and I have seen youtube videos of them flying. If they did mods seeing what they did could help current owners.
There is a lot things that need to done right.
Let start with mechanical linkage set up to take out the sloppy play to the flying surface.
Most common flutter start from here lead to major failure.
How the aircraft was built at the factory is beyond from user doing the assembly.
That is manufacture need to do more testing before products are release.
Look at page 4.
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