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Old 03-12-2014 | 03:43 PM
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Frank... Awesome Fl Jets... best in years. Love what you did with the field. Like everyone said, it took it to another level. You could even feel it on peoples mood.

As always, great to see friends and spend time with my kids and my dad

The highlight for me this year was the formation flight Ali and and my dad did with the 2 fougas. hope there is some video or at least some photos. Ali, you are a master at leading formations, I cant believe you can keep an eye on both planes all the time... It was awesome!

I only have these 3 pictures
1) The real Fouga (sorry Ali haha)
2) Proud papa with his best craftmanship award winner plane
3) My 2 monsters with the cougar



Looking forward to Top Gun and Fl Jets 2015
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Old 03-12-2014 | 05:48 PM
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Dustin Buescher F 104 video florida jet 2014
http://youtu.be/ynDLYJ0cZQE
Old 03-12-2014 | 05:50 PM
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T-2 Buckeye crash video florida jet 2014 http://youtu.be/9RPIpp2GN0Q
Old 03-12-2014 | 05:51 PM
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skymaster hawk florida jet 2014 http://youtu.be/TgHgNktjwK0
Old 03-12-2014 | 05:57 PM
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f-18 crash video florida jet 2014 http://youtu.be/DTfO0N7t0dc

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Old 03-12-2014 | 06:24 PM
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Wow what happened to that F-18? Sudden hard pitch up at 3:34
Old 03-12-2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mr_matt
Wow what happened to that F-18? Sudden hard pitch up at 3:34
There was definitely something up with one of the elevators. In that turn around maneuver around 2 min the aircraft snaps pretty hard and recovers. When it does pitch up at 3:30 it tumbles not just pitches. During the takeoff, it might have hit one of the elevators on the ground and knocked something loose or stripped a servo gear.

Real bummer for the pilot on what looked like a pretty nice F 18.

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Old 03-12-2014 | 08:26 PM
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Who made the F-18? fly eagle?
Old 03-12-2014 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulD
There was definitely something up with one of the elevators. In that turn around maneuver around 2 min the aircraft snaps pretty hard and recovers. When it does pitch up at 3:30 it tumbles not just pitches. During the takeoff, it might have hit one of the elevators on the ground and knocked something loose or stripped a servo gear.

Real bummer for the pilot on what looked like a pretty nice F 18.

PaulD
makes sense.. Here i was thinking he was trying to 3D it.
Old 03-12-2014 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mario tavarez14
f-18 crash video florida jet 2014 http://youtu.be/cPRdN_cly2g
Mario thanks for sharing these videos.
Old 03-13-2014 | 02:01 AM
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Guys more videos today
Old 03-13-2014 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by invertmast
makes sense.. Here i was thinking he was trying to 3D it.
Now I'm tempted to try a snap roll very high on my SM F-18
Old 03-13-2014 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulD
There was definitely something up with one of the elevators. In that turn around maneuver around 2 min the aircraft snaps pretty hard and recovers. When it does pitch up at 3:30 it tumbles not just pitches. During the takeoff, it might have hit one of the elevators on the ground and knocked something loose or stripped a servo gear.

Real bummer for the pilot on what looked like a pretty nice F 18.

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I am sorry for the pilot's loss.

Just think what would have happened had he been doing low level, high speed passes over the runway, as more then 50% of the guys were doing on Wednesday, when it let loose? Could have ended up in the crowd killing someone? I fly an F-18, and I don't see how the stabilators could hit the ground on take off. Only way is with extensive travel and full up, and then I think the leading edge tips would dig in or tear it off at that point. He should have landed after the first snap and loss of control...........IMHO.

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Old 03-13-2014 | 09:54 AM
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"He should have landed after the first snap and loss of control...........IMHO"

Agree
Old 03-13-2014 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RCFlyerDan
I am sorry for the pilot's loss.

Just think what would have happened had he been doing low level, high speed passes over the runway, as more then 50% of the guys were doing on Wednesday, when it let loose? Could have ended up in the crowd killing someone? I fly an F-18, and I don't see how the stabilators could hit the ground on take off. Only way is with extensive travel and full up, and then I think the leading edge tips would dig in or tear it off at that point. He should have landed after the first snap and loss of control...........IMHO.
Doesn't look to me that the stabs hit the ground either.



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Old 03-13-2014 | 11:29 AM
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Looks to me like the one flap is straight down .
Old 03-13-2014 | 11:37 AM
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What you are seeing is the shadow of the vertical fin covering the wing. You can see it change as the video progresses....
Old 03-13-2014 | 11:44 AM
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Yeah you are rite the image is to small on my phone.
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The F18 is a skymaster. I was flying it and I have watched the video 50 times and keep going back and forth re what happened. As somebody said, I should have landed after the extreme take off. Never happened before but after the take off everything felt fine. A couple of low passes and I didn't feel anyting. I had the plane leveled after the sudeen pitch up at 3:35 and lost it again. Thanks for all your interest and comments. The positive thing is all the components in the plane are ok, especially the engine. Haven't decided next steps yet. Seriously considering replacing it. Nice flying plane with the known F18 traits.

Tony
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Old 03-13-2014 | 12:32 PM
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Tony!! Thank you for manning up! I truly hate to see anyone loose a plane/jet and the money and time involved. The take off was an extreme F-18 take off, but nothing too extreme in my opinion. It was after the EXTREME snap, that you should have, the best you could, set the jet up for landing, instead of going around a couple times at moderate to high speeds. I am glad to hear that your components are ok for the next one!! That's the positive attitude!! Don't let it get you down! Dan

Please understand that it is easy to criticize from the bleachers!!
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Hi Dan. I didn't fly after the extreme snap. I leveled the plane and intended to fly it around and land but I wasn't able to. In retrspect, and it is always easier after the fact, I should have landed on the first pass after the takeoff but the plane flet ok. While the F18 does tend to shoot up of the ground, i never experienced a 90 degree rollout. Sad thing is I flew my shockwave all weekend (earlier Mario video) and this was the "last" flight of the weekend.

Tonty
Old 03-13-2014 | 01:33 PM
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Truly sorry Tony for the loss. IMHO, and another guy, it looked as though you stayed in the air an extra amount of time and laps, with out calling an emergency for landing priority. And, yes, it is always easier after the fact to judge.
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@ 02:27 was that a snap? Or did you bail out of a split s ? I don't think the leap off the ground take off could cause any elevator problem...these f18E or f was plague with take off problems
Old 03-13-2014 | 02:20 PM
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Hello:
In the F-18, do you think that the CG was correct ? I think was back, I'm the take off the nose go up in excessive way, do you think same ?
Carlos.


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