FAA now recruiting State, and Local Law enforcement to enforce interpretation?
01-12-2015, 06:58 PM
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Oh I suppose the FAA is good at what they do in managing all the air traffic in this country, I wouldnt call that barely functioning. not looking to start a useless message board flame war so please don't waste my time with useless questions and comments in an attempt to prove my stupidity, life is to short for uselessness like that, much better for people to just get along instead of fighting over trivial matters, wouldn't you agree?
01-12-2015, 07:35 PM
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Aww, come on Dealspeed. Don't try to diffuse flame wars by stating they are futile and trivial. You know there are dozens of people that would just love to say the sky is green if you say it's blue.
But on another note, and back to the subject ...
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?
But on another note, and back to the subject ...
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?
01-12-2015, 07:57 PM
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But on another note, and back to the subject ...
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?[/QUOTE]
yes i think that is correct lol
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?[/QUOTE]
yes i think that is correct lol
01-12-2015, 08:16 PM
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Aww, come on Dealspeed. Don't try to diffuse flame wars by stating they are futile and trivial. You know there are dozens of people that would just love to say the sky is green if you say it's blue.
But on another note, and back to the subject ...
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?
But on another note, and back to the subject ...
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?
01-12-2015, 08:40 PM
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I haven't read the whole of the new guidelines yet and from the little I have read and heard about there is not a lot changes, just use common sense and good judgment, never fly near or around homes or busy parks, if there is a chance no matter how slight that a person could be hurt from your recreational fun, then fly somewhere else, that's always been my own personal rule in this sport since I started in 2004, I really do hope I won't have to join a club, no offense to all the clubs out there, it's just the local club in my area, I really don't care much for the guys who run it, I've always wished I had a second option for a good airfield where people can go and just have fun and not be babysat the whole time by know it all old timers, and as I've said before not all old timer rc pilots are bad, just the ones who run my local rc club
01-12-2015, 09:15 PM
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I haven't read the whole of the new guidelines yet and from the little I have read and heard about there is not a lot changes, just use common sense and good judgment, never fly near or around homes or busy parks, if there is a chance no matter how slight that a person could be hurt from your recreational fun, then fly somewhere else, that's always been my own personal rule in this sport since I started in 2004, I really do hope I won't have to join a club, no offense to all the clubs out there, it's just the local club in my area, I really don't care much for the guys who run it, I've always wished I had a second option for a good airfield where people can go and just have fun and not be babysat the whole time by know it all old timers, and as I've said before not all old timer rc pilots are bad, just the ones who run my local rc club
Not picking on U just used your comment to state my MHO Thanks.
The people that usually enforce the rules ar the same 5 to 10% who do 90% of the work. Most clubs would cease to exist if left to their own devices of most of the members that think the rules are made for others and things just get done by the little fairies at night when there is no one at the field.
01-12-2015, 10:20 PM
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But on another note, and back to the subject ...
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?
You can bet there is a Jarvard pinhead in Oaky city that really does believe that...and would shoot you at a second's notice if you flew that paper airplane mister. To bad the Feds can't import some wisdom to replace the vacuum left by the "experienced". So until they do, you better just unfold that piece of paper.
.....nice and slooowwww and as you have been warned "don't do anything stupid".
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01-13-2015, 01:53 AM
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Heres an idea, why dont you go and pay your local police department a visit and invite them out to your field for a day and educate them on what you do.. its called being proactive.
01-13-2015, 05:31 AM
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Here is my general thought. Not meant to be a political post but a general observation.
I am involved in firearms and RC. I am seeing very similar actions on both sides of my hobbies. Not to mention I am in health insurance and see stricter types of regulation and unnecessary control. I've lost my good health plan and I have tons of fees coming out of my checks now.
I was going to get into ultralights but the banning of two seaters recently by the FAA is another blow to that hobby.
The problem is not the FAA or ATF. The problem is the Obama Administration. While Obama himself may not be directing the FAA, it is the mindset his administration sets that causes this enabling all of this. I have never seen in my short life such control and force being used against civilians over the most trivial things.
The mindset is "You cant do that, and I can stop you. I don't care about what is right or wrong I am in control". The show of force is the name of the game, and showing force means especially to ignore logic and rational and just simply do what you want for the point of showing force.
I agree the problem is idiots. But not idiots flying drones, but idiots at the voting box.
I am involved in firearms and RC. I am seeing very similar actions on both sides of my hobbies. Not to mention I am in health insurance and see stricter types of regulation and unnecessary control. I've lost my good health plan and I have tons of fees coming out of my checks now.
I was going to get into ultralights but the banning of two seaters recently by the FAA is another blow to that hobby.
The problem is not the FAA or ATF. The problem is the Obama Administration. While Obama himself may not be directing the FAA, it is the mindset his administration sets that causes this enabling all of this. I have never seen in my short life such control and force being used against civilians over the most trivial things.
The mindset is "You cant do that, and I can stop you. I don't care about what is right or wrong I am in control". The show of force is the name of the game, and showing force means especially to ignore logic and rational and just simply do what you want for the point of showing force.
I agree the problem is idiots. But not idiots flying drones, but idiots at the voting box.
01-13-2015, 07:31 AM
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Here is my general thought. Not meant to be a political post but a general observation.
I am involved in firearms and RC. I am seeing very similar actions on both sides of my hobbies. Not to mention I am in health insurance and see stricter types of regulation and unnecessary control. I've lost my good health plan and I have tons of fees coming out of my checks now.
I was going to get into ultralights but the banning of two seaters recently by the FAA is another blow to that hobby.
The problem is not the FAA or ATF. The problem is the Obama Administration. While Obama himself may not be directing the FAA, it is the mindset his administration sets that causes this enabling all of this. I have never seen in my short life such control and force being used against civilians over the most trivial things.
The mindset is "You cant do that, and I can stop you. I don't care about what is right or wrong I am in control". The show of force is the name of the game, and showing force means especially to ignore logic and rational and just simply do what you want for the point of showing force.
I agree the problem is idiots. But not idiots flying drones, but idiots at the voting box.
I am involved in firearms and RC. I am seeing very similar actions on both sides of my hobbies. Not to mention I am in health insurance and see stricter types of regulation and unnecessary control. I've lost my good health plan and I have tons of fees coming out of my checks now.
I was going to get into ultralights but the banning of two seaters recently by the FAA is another blow to that hobby.
The problem is not the FAA or ATF. The problem is the Obama Administration. While Obama himself may not be directing the FAA, it is the mindset his administration sets that causes this enabling all of this. I have never seen in my short life such control and force being used against civilians over the most trivial things.
The mindset is "You cant do that, and I can stop you. I don't care about what is right or wrong I am in control". The show of force is the name of the game, and showing force means especially to ignore logic and rational and just simply do what you want for the point of showing force.
I agree the problem is idiots. But not idiots flying drones, but idiots at the voting box.
01-13-2015, 10:20 AM
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guys chill!!
All we need to do is change the name of our RC Clubs to Allahu Akbar Radical RC Flyers and the federal government will not only leave us alone, but also protect our right to fly and stone non rule abiding quadcopter pilots to the point they meet 7 virigns.
All we need to do is change the name of our RC Clubs to Allahu Akbar Radical RC Flyers and the federal government will not only leave us alone, but also protect our right to fly and stone non rule abiding quadcopter pilots to the point they meet 7 virigns.
01-13-2015, 10:27 AM
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guys chill!!
All we need to do is change the name of our RC Clubs to Allahu Akbar Radical RC Flyers and the federal government will not only leave us alone, but also protect our right to fly and stone non rule abiding quadcopter pilots to the point they meet 7 virigns.
All we need to do is change the name of our RC Clubs to Allahu Akbar Radical RC Flyers and the federal government will not only leave us alone, but also protect our right to fly and stone non rule abiding quadcopter pilots to the point they meet 7 virigns.
01-13-2015, 11:08 AM
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Well, actually we have a few members at the field I am a member of who are police officers. I'm sure this is common throughout the r/c world. So I'm sure there are many officers who are very familiar with all of this r/c stuff. It's the r/c activities that are going on outside of the designated r/c flying sites that are the issue here.
01-13-2015, 11:21 AM
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But on another note, and back to the subject ...
So, if I make a paper airplane and throw it from the balcony of the 15th floor of a building in downtown Miami, I'd be in violation of FAA rules and subject to fines and imprisonment unless I file a flight plan and/or notify and secure clearance from the Miami tower?
01-13-2015, 01:45 PM
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Here is my general thought. Not meant to be a political post but a general observation.
I am involved in firearms and RC. I am seeing very similar actions on both sides of my hobbies. Not to mention I am in health insurance and see stricter types of regulation and unnecessary control. I've lost my good health plan and I have tons of fees coming out of my checks now.
I was going to get into ultralights but the banning of two seaters recently by the FAA is another blow to that hobby.
The problem is not the FAA or ATF. The problem is the Obama Administration. While Obama himself may not be directing the FAA, it is the mindset his administration sets that causes this enabling all of this. I have never seen in my short life such control and force being used against civilians over the most trivial things.
The mindset is "You cant do that, and I can stop you. I don't care about what is right or wrong I am in control". The show of force is the name of the game, and showing force means especially to ignore logic and rational and just simply do what you want for the point of showing force.
I agree the problem is idiots. But not idiots flying drones, but idiots at the voting box.
I am involved in firearms and RC. I am seeing very similar actions on both sides of my hobbies. Not to mention I am in health insurance and see stricter types of regulation and unnecessary control. I've lost my good health plan and I have tons of fees coming out of my checks now.
I was going to get into ultralights but the banning of two seaters recently by the FAA is another blow to that hobby.
The problem is not the FAA or ATF. The problem is the Obama Administration. While Obama himself may not be directing the FAA, it is the mindset his administration sets that causes this enabling all of this. I have never seen in my short life such control and force being used against civilians over the most trivial things.
The mindset is "You cant do that, and I can stop you. I don't care about what is right or wrong I am in control". The show of force is the name of the game, and showing force means especially to ignore logic and rational and just simply do what you want for the point of showing force.
I agree the problem is idiots. But not idiots flying drones, but idiots at the voting box.
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01-13-2015, 02:27 PM
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01-14-2015, 03:40 AM
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Well, actually we have a few members at the field I am a member of who are police officers. I'm sure this is common throughout the r/c world. So I'm sure there are many officers who are very familiar with all of this r/c stuff. It's the r/c activities that are going on outside of the designated r/c flying sites that are the issue here.