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Old 11-28-2017 | 08:40 AM
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Well, I went with the free "new" ds-16 loaner until the ds-24 is ready.

I suppose I have to learn how to program the thing. I have read the whole ds-16 thread, so that should help.
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Originally Posted by ravill
Well, I went with the free "new" ds-16 loaner until the ds-24 is ready.

I suppose I have to learn how to program the thing. I have read the whole ds-16 thread, so that should help.
Or just get the DC 24. I love ❤️ mine...
Old 11-28-2017 | 09:24 AM
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Or just get the DC 24. I love ❤️ mine...
I'm a "thumbs" on the gymbals kind of guy and I'm looking forward to the extra buttons on the back of the DS-24.
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Just wanted to let everybody know, the first Jeti DS-16 Standard loaners have been shipped. The Carbon and Black carbons are scheduled for late next week. Happy hunting.

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Originally Posted by ravill
I'm a "thumbs" on the gymbals kind of guy and I'm looking forward to the extra buttons on the back of the DS-24.

Ditto.

My loaner is scheduled to arrive Friday.
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Originally Posted by ZB
Just wanted to let everybody know, the first Jeti DS-16 Standard loaners have been shipped. The Carbon and Black carbons are scheduled for late next week. Happy hunting.

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Don't recall being asked to specify a preference. Seems odd as the likelihood of keeping at end of term is a related to personal preference.

I'll call tomorrow to check the status. Perhaps there's time for a carbon white!

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I have removed some posts that were not contributing to the thread.

I will be investigating a possible sock puppet troll.

Please stay on topic this is a serious issue with significant sums of money involved plus reputations are on the line.
Old 12-01-2017 | 12:13 PM
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This thread is providing useful info on the status of Jeti DS 24

At times I have been close to coming in and deleting a bunch of posts but it has not deteriorated down to that level until today.

Can I remind all potential posters about our rules on manufacturer "bashing". IE "XYZ is rubbish" is not acceptable. "my XYZ set has been returned 3 times and still has the following fault " is absolutely fine and is exactly the sort of thing RCU wants to disseminate.

If you are connected in some way to a competing manufacturer you should not be posting in this thread at all. I will turn a Nelsonian eye on posts that are positive informative and contribute to the thread. Remember you MUST make that connection clear in your signature. There is NO LEEWAY on this.
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Just got of the phone with Jeti guys, the new boards for DS-24 are finished and we should receive them next week. The FCC testing should resume soon.

Also the loaners DS-16 Carbon and Black Carbon we will start sending out early next week. The shipment is on the way.

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Old 12-07-2017 | 07:13 AM
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Right on!

News about the DS-24 board refresh is encouraging!

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Flew the Ds-24 with 900mhz last weekend. Everything went perfect. Hold on guys. Your waiting will be rewarded.
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Originally Posted by gapellegrini
Flew the Ds-24 with 900mhz last weekend. Everything went perfect. Hold on guys. Your waiting will be rewarded.
You have flown with a backup 900 or a 900 as the primary receiver?

Makes a big difference because as the second or third receiver.....you never used it yet 😂

Im on the DC-24.....
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I flew with the 900 as third receiver.

I don't think I can use the 900 as primary. I can have as backup on default or dual path mode.
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That’s right, just wanted to make it clear that R3 900 wasn’t actually used I don’t have one yet, I only have one CB400 and my setup doesn’t need it....
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Using dual path I believe I will fly with 900 next 10 years and won't use it. No problem.I will keep the $80 R3 900 mhz on all my planes.
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At the moment I don’t believe it can be used on a CB200 which is pretty much what all my jets on using dual path, I rather have normal r3 as backup......
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At the moment I don’t believe it can be used on a CB200 which is pretty much what all my jets on using dual path, I rather have normal r3 as backup......
These days knowing how poorly the Central box makes use of Rx2 I've been thinking I'd prefer to use an REX7, etc as the primary with an R3 secondary (or clone) connected directly to the primary rx via a PPM link rather than connecting the secondary to RX2 of the central box. You should then be able to connect a 900Mhz receiver to the RX2 input so you would have 2, 2.4Ghz receivers in a configuration that I believe works better (as far as we know at this point) than the secondary directly connected to Rx2. Since Rx2 never gets used unless rx1 has almost completely failed it seems like a perfect match for the 900Mhz backup which also doesn't get used unless 2.4Ghz communications fail..
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I am about to replace a CB200/2xR3s in a T-1 with an R14/R3.
What are the pros and cons of dual path vs clone mode knowing what we do now? Will the switching to the R3 be the same as the CB?
I also may add a Cortex Pro so how will it best fit in the mix?

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Originally Posted by causeitflies
I am about to replace a CB200/2xR3s in a T-1 with an R14/R3.
What are the pros and cons of dual path vs clone mode knowing what we do now? Will the switching to the R3 be the same as the CB?
I also may add a Cortex Pro so how will it best fit in the mix?
The biggest advantage of dual path is that it provides ful telemetry for both receivers and allows you to use the EXT port of the secondary receiver (assuming it's free) to connect a second telemetry device without adding hubs, etc. There are no problems with dual path but rather the way that the CB200 uses Rx2. The CB200 will never even look at RX2 until Rx1 has almost completely failed (failed to receiver 14 consecutive frames or Q < ~14%). Also as soon as Rx1 receives another frame it quickly switched back to Rx1, even if Rx2 has a nearly perfect signal and RX1 has a really poor one. This basically means that unless Rx1 completely dies, Rx2 can't really work significantly better than Rx1.. Also when connected to a CB200 Rx2 is almost never used and doesn't even really improve antenna diversity.

One thing about Dual path is it prevents you from using the wireless trainer interface as that requires one of the transmit RF sections and dual path uses both.. If you aren't interested in the wireless trainer interface then dual path is great. As far as I can tell a clone or secondary receiver connected to a normal receiver via a PPM link seems to make better use of the secondary receiver (or clone) that the central box does. This is really just a firmware issue with the central box and I'm sure they can (will) improve this significantly but as it is now it's not that great.

Since I like to use the trainer interface to allow others to fly my jets I prefer a clone connected to a regular receiver via a PPM link.
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I am eliminating the CB and using an R14 and R3. Does the R14 switch to the R3 the same as the CB?
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I am eliminating the CB and using an R14 and R3. Does the R14 switch to the R3 the same as the CB?
I don't believe so when you are using a PPM link between them. I believe the PPM link may be fed directly into the primary receivers servo decoder so if fails to receive a valid signal but the secondary receiver has a good PPM stream then it should be able to use the PPM data very efficiently. How quickly the PPM stream from the secondary gets used once the primary fails to receive isn't clear. My GUESS is due to the nature of the PPM link being slower than the receive rate, the primary probably needs to drop several (2-3 ??) consecutive frames before using the PPM stream but it should to be way better than 14 consecutive receive failures which is the CB200 criteria for switching to Rx2
With the hardware available to the CB200 i see no reason why they can't make a huge improvement in the CB200s use of Rx2 without much effort. The question is, with all the other stuff they have going on, will they and if so, how long will it take for them to get around to it.

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Old 12-07-2017 | 08:54 PM
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I don't believe so when you are using a PPM link between them. I believe the PPM link may be fed directly into the primary receivers servo decoder so if fails to receive a valid signal but the secondary receiver has a good PPM stream then it should be able to use the PPM data very efficiently. How quickly the PPM stream from the secondary gets used once the primary fails to receive isn't clear. My GUESS is due to the nature of the PPM link being slower than the receive rate, the primary probably needs to drop several (2-3 ??) consecutive frames before using the PPM stream but it should to be way better than 14 consecutive receive failures which is the CB200 criteria for switching to Rx2
With the hardware available to the CB200 i see no reason why they can't make a huge improvement in the CB200s use of Rx2 without much effort. The question is, with all the other stuff they have going on, will they and if so, how long will it take for them to get around to it.
Hopefully they will improve the CBs and maybe someone will give us a clear picture of the actual behavior of these receivers. Meanwhile I'll just use the loom for the Cortex.
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Agree that marketing a dual frequency, triple redundancy system without also explaining the Rx/Switchboard switching logic leaves consumer scratching head trying to sort out how it works and optimal configuration.

Hopeful this gets demystified soon!

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Originally Posted by wfield0455
With the hardware available to the CB200 i see no reason why they can't make a huge improvement in the CB200s use of Rx2 without much effort. The question is, with all the other stuff they have going on, will they and if so, how long will it take for them to get around to it.
Is the Rx switching logic the same with the CB400? I assume so but just checking.

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Is the Rx switching logic the same with the CB400? I assume so but just checking.

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I would assume the CB400 would be the same also but I haven't seen that the CB400 has been specifically tested.


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