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Old 01-17-2016, 04:09 PM
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I know about the Pilot RC and FEJ, but are there any decent scale corporate jets like a Citation out there for turbines? I've seen the video from Europe of the Citation CJ2 that was beautiful but haven't heard of any kits. I guess you need to be a scratch builder to get one of these.
Old 01-17-2016, 05:34 PM
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Theres a lear from mark frankel, otherwise that and what you listed is all that is available commercially. But, anything is possible with the right amount of money. Lol
Old 01-18-2016, 12:13 AM
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Depends what you mean by "decent scale" there's this.. http://aviation-design.fr/?rc-jet-model-falcon-7x

I'm guessing the Citation was Ali's, its an old Jetwelt kit, I'm not sure if its still available.. http://www.plushaus.info/jetwelt_modell_galerie.html

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Old 01-18-2016, 03:08 AM
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And speaking of Mark Frankel, check out the You-Tube video titled;
Gulfstream G-IV prototype .
Its our second test hop, and the "best" scale Gulfstream on the planet.
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O have a buddy that has 2 graupner Epic Victories, he bought both last year, they are fairly rare, but can be had. And they fly great, and when painted are beautiful.
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"Decent scale" meant something that could handle small turbines. Frankel's Lear was made for OS91 ducted fans.
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr View Post
"Decent scale" meant something that could handle small turbines. Frankel's Lear was made for OS91 ducted fans.

A couple of K-45's would work out beautifully in the frankel Lear jet. They are just under 3 inches in diameter.The frankle design was kind of on the heavy side anyway so 18 pounds of thrust wouldn't hurt it.








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Old 01-18-2016, 06:00 AM
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There is a german company that makes a fantastic full CFK / Herex Lear Jet ....

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lear-jet-Voll...wAAOSweW5VeoMx

2.6 meters wingspan
2 engines 13 lbs >>>
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr View Post
I know about the Pilot RC and FEJ, but are there any decent scale corporate jets like a Citation out there for turbines? I've seen the video from Europe of the Citation CJ2 that was beautiful but haven't heard of any kits. I guess you need to be a scratch builder to get one of these.
That FEJ GV has got to be one of the most hideous models ever! They made an absolutely beautiful wing, fuselage, nacelles, landing gear and then stamped the most horrible removable canopy panel ever! its like placing Janet Reno's face on Adriana Lima's body.
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Originally Posted by FalconWings View Post
That FEJ GV has got to be one of the most hideous models ever! They made an absolutely beautiful wing, fuselage, nacelles, landing gear and then stamped the most horrible removable canopy panel ever! its like placing Janet Reno's face on Adriana Lima's body.
The rear fuselage with the nacelles and vertical fin has to weight around 25-30lbs alone as well! The horizontal stab was another 6-10lbs. By far the worst design/layup and assembly i have ever seen in the one i was looking at.
Paint job was nice from a distance, other than none of nacelle stripes being lined up due to them putting all the thrust reverser clamshells in the wrong spots....
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That ebay address is closed now. Was really hoping on something like Ali's as in CJ2 Citation with straight wings. We call them "slotations" in full scale but I think that would be great for the RC world. Frankel's Lear is another option except I'm not a really good builder. I'm an "assembler"! Went to that website and it said, "turbine version will be available in 2003". Wow...

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ebay address is still working perfect .....
If it is not working for you please go to
www.ebay.de and type 231790295733
into the search field .....



BTW: We can build it for you .....
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Old 01-18-2016, 03:54 PM
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Don't know what I'm doing wrong. I thought it was my work computer so I went home and tried on my iPad and still get this.

But that Lear is the type I'm talking about.

EDIT. Just got it up and running now. Thanks.
What sized turbines? Looks like a beautiful kit!
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:52 PM
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From your pic the mistake is that you are still on ebay.com and not on ebay.de

two engines from 13 up to 22 lbs ...

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Old 01-19-2016, 05:01 AM
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Patrnflyr,

(Frankel's Lear is another option except I'm not a really good builder. I'm an "assembler"! )



And you don't think there is going to be any building to get the Lear jet on eBay ready to fly?? Just sayin!!!!!!!!

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Old 01-19-2016, 08:00 AM
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Yeah. They're both out of my league
Old 01-19-2016, 02:21 PM
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Eagle Driver

Need more details.

Price of kit

Brand of landing gear,

Wing span

Length

Final Weight..
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Originally Posted by patrnflyr View Post
Yeah. They're both out of my league
Where there is a will, money can make a way. Im busy for the next 2-3 months, but a custom build on something like that lear is possible.

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