I have advised my friend to replace his P 70 with a P 80 for a little more thrust and for quicker acceleration. I have some hands on time with P70 but none with P 80. My impression is that P 80 is a for sure a pretty substantial improvement when it comes to time to accelerate. It takes his P70 about 3.5 to 4 seconds to start making some useable power when going from idle to full throttle with the stick and about 7 to 8 seconds to reach full RPM.

Is my impression of the P 80 correct that it is a substantial improvement over P 70 ???

Yes it is better but still not great.

Better start your go-around at the outer-marker with the P-70 !! LOL


Dan

Ok so maybe this isnt the engine to get. What affordable engine in the same thrust range is a better choice ? K80 or K100 ? P90 and 100 and Rabbit are beyond his budget. Looking to stay as close to 1000 to 1200 or maybe 1300. Obviously shopping the used engine market.

I ran my BARF with a legacy P-80, then a P-70, then a P80SE. By far the best performance was the P-80SE, it was a match made in heaven.
The old P-80 had the slowest spool up time, but the P-70 wasnt far behind.
You could deffintely see an improvement on the SE version, plus it had 6 more lbs of thrust over P-70.

BTW, I have no issue in saying that the P-80SE was the best engine I've ever owned. Never a single misfire, hot start, flameout.....it just ran. Ran it with Jet A, Kero, then later Diesel with Mercury oil from Walmart.

If it was me, I would go with the Jet Munt Vt80. The fastest throttle response of all current turbines, 18Lbs of thrust, great thrust to weight, very efficient, and less than $2000.

I had a P-80SE that self destructed twice! Once at 7hrs, then again after a Jetcat rebuild at 4hrs. Sold it after the 2nd rebuild. Fortunately, both times Jetcat rebuilt it under warranty. When it wasn't blowing up, it was a good engine

Mike

You could deffintely see an improvement on the SE version

Legacy p70 and p80 are very reliable engines if the slow spool time isn't an issue, there is a small trick to make them more responsive by increasing the idle speed few thousands, trust me it made a big difference

We have P80SE ( carf rookie ) and P70 ( bobcat xl ), runs on diesel/jeta1 ( 70% / 30% ), 2 great engines, runs absolutely smooth, flawslessly, but, different generations, spool up/down on P70 more slower than P80Se.
Nowadays, not an good idea or deal buy an P70, but, if i have an great deal on P70, i buy it !!!

jose

If your interested i have both a P-80 SE and a P-120SX that i will sell as a package deal for $1000.00 and you can do what ever you want with them.
The P-80 SE i have was in a bandit ARF for 4 yrs and has i think 52 HRS on it now and still ran great the last time it was in a plane. I had one 25HR service done and passed with a clean bill of health.
Neither of these motors were ever in any fatal crashes. If interested i can bring them to Mississippi AB.

Brian (turnnburn) If you interested in the above turbines, myself or Joey can get them from Greg at Mississippi and deliver them to you. Greg is one of the good guys.

Thanks Bob O...

Greg, PM sent.

Brian, I will have Joey's stuff in my trailer

Thanks Bob. I will let you know. I forget when Miss is. End of April and first of May ? One of these years I need to go there but I dont see it happening this year..

Miss. is in two weeks

Sent you an email this morning Greg.

Haven't received anything Brian..

Brian i just sent you a PM.

PM sent.

both sold!!!!