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Old 04-24-2017 | 08:46 PM
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So I have been flying turbines for 4 years now and the High/buzz is gone. I'm teaching 2 new jet guys how to fly, and every time They fly I see the Buzz when they land. I miss that feeling

I was flying my Carf Eurosport and did some tight back flips and high alpha stuff and got the buzz back for the first time in a long time.

So im looking for a 3D jet and it can't only be Carf that makes 3D jets is it?

They got the Rooki 2, 3D Eurosport (already got a regular one) and the new J10.

Are there other good 3D jets out there to look at?

Thanks Mike
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This one is designed to do 3D and have heard good reports on it......


www.pacificrcjet.com/collections/aviation-jet-kits/products/aviation-jets-rafele-3d?variant=32333400140

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This would be my top pick.
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How about the Avanti S

I saw Sebastian Silvestri fly this routine at JetPower 2015 and was the best flying display I have ever seen. Spins and tumbles of all types and a knife edge loop.
As I recall this was powered with a 25 Kg thrust engine It would give you something to aim for.


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I second the Avanti. I was there and saw this flight up close and personal, as they say, and it still never gets old watching a video of it. I saw the plane up close afterwards and convinced myself it was stock. So anyone could buy into the performance. The other very impressive plane was the demo he flew using the red Pilatus PC-21 turboprop but it's a different type if cool factor.


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How about the Avanti S

I saw Sebastian Silvestri fly this routine at JetPower 2015 and was the best flying display I have ever seen. Spins and tumbles of all types and a knife edge loop.
As I recall this was powered with a 25 Kg thrust engine It would give you something to aim for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_KlJqCl0g

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Gets no better then the Aviation jets Rafale. Keep in mind Franco the pilot just did the maiden a few weeks before this video on a brand new design. Very stable flyer. Power is 2 Kingtech K160s.


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Rebel Pro with the vector pipe option, Skymaster Mig 29, Aviation Jets SU-35 and Skymaster SU-37 with vector thrust option. Aviation Jets Rafale is available now and the price is reasonable.
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Most of the 3D ready turbine models out there seem to cost an arm and a leg...but out of all that I have seen the Rookie on a TV pipe looks the most bang for your buck.
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2.5 Futura with Tomohawk thrust vector pipe
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BlueBus do you have any video?
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Originally Posted by AEROSHELDON
BlueBus do you have any video?
At 1:23 of the video:
My 2.5 Futura TV is beingg built now. It looks Impressive!
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If you want to go on the affordable side take a look at the foamy HSD Mirage 2000 or F-16. I believe HSD will be offering a thrust vectoring setup for them I have the SuperViper with a P-60 and it's a great little sport jet.
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Originally Posted by Mike06659
If you want to go on the affordable side take a look at the foamy HSD Mirage 2000 or F-16. I believe HSD will be offering a thrust vectoring setup for them I have the SuperViper with a P-60 and it's a great little sport jet.
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Where'd you hear about the TV pipe? got one of the F-16s being delivered tomorrow.. didn't know anything about a TV version
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I saw it somewhere on HSD Facebook page. Should be interesting
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Originally Posted by mikes68charger
So I have been flying turbines for 4 years now and the High/buzz is gone. I'm teaching 2 new jet guys how to fly, and every time They fly I see the Buzz when they land. I miss that feeling

I was flying my Carf Eurosport and did some tight back flips and high alpha stuff and got the buzz back for the first time in a long time.

So im looking for a 3D jet and it can't only be Carf that makes 3D jets is it?

They got the Rooki 2, 3D Eurosport (already got a regular one) and the new J10.

Are there other good 3D jets out there to look at?

Thanks Mike
4 years and the thrill was is gone? I've been flying turbines since 1999 and DF for years before that. That thrill for me as I do high speed pass and a 1500' vertical never gets old.
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Originally Posted by BlueBus320
At 1:23 of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTYXCGAYQbY
My 2.5 Futura TV is beingg built now. It looks Impressive!
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Thanks! My 2.5 would need to be retrofitted with that pipe. I like your suggestion on the thread for this as a 3D plane!
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Originally Posted by G4guy
4 years and the thrill was is gone? I've been flying turbines since 1999 and DF for years before that. That thrill for me as I do high speed pass and a 1500' vertical never gets old.
+1 on that Ron!

As far a 3D jets, one of the Richmond guys has a CARF J10, and its hard to beat that for 3D capability, speed, and simplicity. Its a great flyer, and easy to assemble and operate at the field. The price is fairly reasonable too - at least compared to the QQ F-16 and AD Rafale. They've got some new paint schemes that I haven't seen in the US, but you could always get the less-expensive parade scheme and repaint it...

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If the 3D trend continues as it did in prop planes, how are jet meets going to mix hovering jets with 7 or 8 other aircraft in the pattern? Sorry to sound like I'm raining on the parade, but I see a storm coming.

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Originally Posted by Chris Smith
If the 3D trend continues as it did in prop planes, how are jet meets going to mix hovering jets with 7 or 8 other aircraft in the pattern? Sorry to sound like I'm raining on the parade, but I see a storm coming.
At the jet meets I've been to in the past year, the number of 3D jets has been small, granted, but they have worked in fine. Most guys do their 3D stuff up and away, or if they do it lower and over the runway, they do it when they are alone in the air or nearly so. I have never seen any low 3D stuff with 6, 5, or even 4 other jets in the air.

A spotter's job is to make sure that the pilot knows where all the other jets flying are...

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What about CARF New Mephisto !!

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Nobody has ever seen the Mephisto fly, furthermore I am pretty sure it is not a "real" 3D jet. The question of course is what you think a 3D jet actually is. If 3D'ing to you means being able to do a flat spin, a flip or a high alpha fly-by, most sport jets with a retro fitted thrust vector will be able to do that. Real 3D maneuvers like hovering, torque-rolling or very very slow & low maneuvers can only be accomplished with a plane has the proper thrust to weight ratio. Although the Avanti S (the non fiber glass version) has that, it is a handful to handle and delta wings are far easier to 3D. Therefore if you are into "real" 3D, the best options are the Comp-ARF J10 (the best bang for the buck at the moment that will be happy with a 180 size motor), the brand new & revised Comp ARF Europort Ultimate and the Aviation Jets Rafale (that one being bigger and heavier needs at least a single 250 or twin 140's or even better twin 160's).

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