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Old 11-20-2023, 10:12 AM
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Ive been thinking of trying out the Xicoy Turbines can someone shed some light on these turbines on their experience with them?
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They are great little motors, what do you want to know?
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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
They are great little motors, what do you want to know?
Im looking for another Turbine for my T1 and another for a Carf Flash and would like to know which would suit them best also how do they compare to KingTech Turbines?
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All the current turbines on the market are about on par. Kingtech, Swiwin, Jet Cat, Jet Central, Xicoy all just pretty much work and when they don't, and it happens, all of them have pretty good support.

I know that Aeropanda is picking up Xicoy both as a distributor and eventually a service center and they are A++ to deal with. The current US distributor and service guy is in the forums too (Fender Bean)
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Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey
All the current turbines on the market are about on par. Kingtech, Swiwin, Jet Cat, Jet Central, Xicoy all just pretty much work and when they don't, and it happens, all of them have pretty good support.

I know that Aeropanda is picking up Xicoy both as a distributor and eventually a service center and they are A++ to deal with. The current US distributor and service guy is in the forums too (Fender Bean)
OK, great thanks for your input much Appreciated!!
Old 11-20-2023, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerDrum
Ive been thinking of trying out the Xicoy Turbines can someone shed some light on these turbines on their experience with them?
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Compare the specs for the size engine you are considering. You'll find that Xicoy typically are lighter and more fuel efficient than the competition. I have only a few runs on my X95 and am impressed with it so far.
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Originally Posted by joeflyer
Compare the specs for the size engine you are considering. You'll find that Xicoy typically are lighter and more fuel efficient than the competition. I have only a few runs on my X95 and am impressed with it so far.
What he said. I've only got a couple of flights on my X85 so I can't speak to longevity, but the packaging is unbelievably small. The ECU is quite literally the size of a book of matches. Startup is ridiculously quick. I actually seems to burn less fuel than the spec. I've got mine in one of the new Hangar 9 MB-339s and I can fly 6 minutes on just over the 1/2 of the stock tank. The fact that they can get 19.5 lbs of thrust out of something the size of a plastic water bottle amazes me.
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Now a days, all turbines work pretty good.
The two things I will consider are:
- which one has the service center that best suits you.
- which one works at your atmospheric conditions. Some brand perform better than others under high, hot, humid environments. That can only be known by the experience of people at your site.

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Danny at Aeropanda is very knowledgeable about Xicoy turbines…. Contact him at [email protected] or me at [email protected]

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Old 11-22-2023, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jackdiazccs
Now a days, all turbines work pretty good.
The two things I will consider are:
- which one has the service center that best suits you.
- which one works at your atmospheric conditions. Some brand perform better than others under high, hot, humid environments. That can only be known by the experience of people at your site.

Jack
Jack - I have asked the same questions and so we're clear I want to use Xicoy but I fly at an elevation of 5500ft, sometimes density alt can be as high as 9500ft. I personally saw the Xicoy120 been used my field and not great results. The other issue for me is I see Diesel is allowed but not recommended, Kero is $10 for 1gal, so not cheap by any means. For me the x195 and the x240 are of interest, but until someone has the answers and has tested them at higher alts, not worth the risk.
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Originally Posted by F900
Jack - I have asked the same questions and so we're clear I want to use Xicoy but I fly at an elevation of 5500ft, sometimes density alt can be as high as 9500ft. I personally saw the Xicoy120 been used my field and not great results. The other issue for me is I see Diesel is allowed but not recommended, Kero is $10 for 1gal, so not cheap by any means. For me the x195 and the x240 are of interest, but until someone has the answers and has tested them at higher alts, not worth the risk.
To be clear, these motors are not tested at altitude and some have issues others have not, I have had multiple customers in Colorado all with the same motor and some issues while others had had no issues. There have been some tweaks for the higher altitudes, some customers at high altitudes have been denied motors due to their location from what I was told.

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Ive owned the 120 and the X44 Heli. Both were very reliable.
Both were sold with the airframes but I plan on buying again when needed.
A big plus as of late. Aeropanda just announced they are dealers. Even a better reason to buy a Xicoy.

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QUOTE=PowerDrum;12788270]Ive been thinking of trying out the Xicoy Turbines can someone shed some light on these turbines on their experience with them?
Thx!![/QUOTE]
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Old 11-22-2023, 05:56 PM
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I have so far 15 hours on a X90 since June of this year flying at 5500 feet and have not had any issues.
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Originally Posted by F900
Jack - I have asked the same questions and so we're clear I want to use Xicoy but I fly at an elevation of 5500ft, sometimes density alt can be as high as 9500ft. I personally saw the Xicoy120 been used my field and not great results. The other issue for me is I see Diesel is allowed but not recommended, Kero is $10 for 1gal, so not cheap by any means. For me the x195 and the x240 are of interest, but until someone has the answers and has tested them at higher alts, not worth the risk.
I normally fly Swiwin but have been consodering and X45. However, I have a question. Xicoy does not recommend diesel in their turbines?
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Old 11-23-2023, 02:04 AM
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Don't use diesel on the X45. This tiny little masterpiece gets dirty pretty quick. It's best to use petroleum and a very high standard oil on the small engine. The bigger the engine, the smaller the risk of problems using diesel.
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I have just picked up a X60 to replace a P60 and the size difference is crazy. Let alone the 700g weight saving for the same thrust.

The ECU is also built into the engine cover so it means you can transfer the engine between models with a relatively cheap second engine kit. Just unplug and unbolt the engine and connect it up in the other airframe. No requirement to remove wiring etc
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Originally Posted by paul_h300
I have just picked up a X60 to replace a P60 and the size difference is crazy. Let alone the 700g weight saving for the same thrust.

The ECU is also built into the engine cover so it means you can transfer the engine between models with a relatively cheap second engine kit. Just unplug and unbolt the engine and connect it up in the other airframe. No requirement to remove wiring etc
I have a little experience with jet engines, everything from the x45 to the GE CF 6. I now own 5 Xicoys, plus a JetsMunt Merlin , another Gaspar design. they are superb engines, with top class backup up from Gaspar.
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[QUOTE=Agrav8ed;12788441]I normally fly Swiwin but have been consodering and X45. However, I have a question. Xicoy does not recommend diesel in their turbines?
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Do a search and you can read all about it in previous threads, but Xicoy say it can be used but not recommended, that to me sounds they like don't want you using diesel I do wish K1 Kero was cheaper, but now $15 per gal off the shelf makes no financial sense.
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[QUOTE=F900;12788476]
Originally Posted by Agrav8ed
I normally fly Swiwin but have been consodering and X45. However, I have a question. Xicoy does not recommend diesel in their turbines?
thanks,


Do a search and you can read all about it in previous threads, but Xicoy say it can be used but not recommended, that to me sounds they like don't want you using diesel I do wish K1 Kero was cheaper, but now $15 per gal off the shelf makes no financial sense.
Anything but the X45,H,TP/X60, it should not be used on these two smaller motors. The other motors have at it
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I own Jetcats, Kingtech, Swiwin and Xicoy. I think the Xicoy are very high quality and tend to be lighter with a better fuel consumption compared to its peers. The throttle response is also pretty fast. I run mine on JetA. It is $5.8 at the pump... Also they integrate easily with Jeti for telemetry.



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Old 11-24-2023, 01:58 AM
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Does Xicoy allow cool down with RX off like KT?
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Yes. You can download the full instruction manual on the Xicoy website, its all there !
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Originally Posted by acw
I own Jetcats, Kingtech, Swiwin and Xicoy. I think the Xicoy are very high quality and tend to be lighter with a better fuel consumption compared to its peers. The throttle response is also pretty fast. I run mine on JetA. It is $5.8 at the pump... Also they integrate easily with Jeti for telemetry.
Jet A can be pretty hard to come by most places in the USA. The EPA came out with an edict a number of years ago directing all FBO's to not sell "aviation fuel" without verifying it's going into a plane. All they really wanted was to block 100 LL from being sold into fuel cans for snowmobiles, hot rods etc. But the notice didn't say "100 LL. it said "aviation fuel" and that caught the Jet A users as well.

I was using Jet A at the time and working at an airport. I got pushed to Kerosene which I buy at a local bulk plant, runs just under $6 a gallon. Kerosene is also the least stinky of the three options for Turbine fuel but buying it at a Home Depot or such can be really spendy.
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We get free jet-a from a local maintenance place, saves them paying hazmat to haul it off after they drain tanks, pull up and fill up 2 55 gallon drums at a time, you bring your oil and the club fills up the jet-a.

Diesel is dirty and mucks up the motors eventually. Not sure jet-a is much better. I guess I'm lucky, the local gas station sells K1 for under 6 bux a gallon too.

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