MAYHEM AT PRADO!!!!!!
09-05-2004 | 11:42 AM
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The thing I've been wondering (and I could be wrong, it's just my understanding) but is it not illegal for an international aircraft to be landing at any field in the US that does not have a US customs officer on site?
I was asking a friend of mine who is a full scale instructor about flying private planes into the US and he said that upon entry you must land at an airport with a US customs office, you are not even permitted to exit your aircraft until the US customs officer instructs you to do so. Once you are in the US does that still apply? Surely it must or how would anyone know they've gained legal entry into the United States?
I was asking a friend of mine who is a full scale instructor about flying private planes into the US and he said that upon entry you must land at an airport with a US customs office, you are not even permitted to exit your aircraft until the US customs officer instructs you to do so. Once you are in the US does that still apply? Surely it must or how would anyone know they've gained legal entry into the United States?
09-05-2004 | 03:35 PM
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It's funny to read what comes from a couple of pictures. Toucano, by waving him off Paul most likely saved the guys life because he would of not stopped before the runway ends. but lets, back up and give you some more info on the events.
On his first fly-by when he made everyone clear the field. He came North to South which means HE CLEARLY FLEW OVER CHINO Airport. Now, I know someone might start and say but maybe he did not see it, but I find that hard to beleive. Then after his second pass he flew very low into the bird sanctuary and almost hit the three Antennas (AM, FM or what ever, three Red and white with the flashing red light on them) anyway he went far after the second pass and again would of clearly gone into where he could have (now this time is a maybe) seen Corona Aproach. Funny how after the third try he knew exactly where Chino was because he went to land over there. Prado is only about THREE miles South from the Chino Airport, you can clearly see the tower specially when you are 30 or more feet higher. When he was making his turns he would have to make sure no other traffic is in the area and would have easily seen Chino Airport or other planes alanding and taking off. Emergency maybe, but after the first turn you again could have been at Chino instead of going LONG and LOW to try to come into the R.C. Field. His turns would have traveled two to three times the distance from Prado R.C. Field to Chino Airport. Anyway enough of my rant. Let's go back to Kick the tires and light some fires. Fired up for the next Jet Rally
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On his first fly-by when he made everyone clear the field. He came North to South which means HE CLEARLY FLEW OVER CHINO Airport. Now, I know someone might start and say but maybe he did not see it, but I find that hard to beleive. Then after his second pass he flew very low into the bird sanctuary and almost hit the three Antennas (AM, FM or what ever, three Red and white with the flashing red light on them) anyway he went far after the second pass and again would of clearly gone into where he could have (now this time is a maybe) seen Corona Aproach. Funny how after the third try he knew exactly where Chino was because he went to land over there. Prado is only about THREE miles South from the Chino Airport, you can clearly see the tower specially when you are 30 or more feet higher. When he was making his turns he would have to make sure no other traffic is in the area and would have easily seen Chino Airport or other planes alanding and taking off. Emergency maybe, but after the first turn you again could have been at Chino instead of going LONG and LOW to try to come into the R.C. Field. His turns would have traveled two to three times the distance from Prado R.C. Field to Chino Airport. Anyway enough of my rant. Let's go back to Kick the tires and light some fires. Fired up for the next Jet Rally
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ORIGINAL: toucano
Why is the guy in pictures 1 and 2 trying to wave off a full-size plane like he's the LSO on the back of the Nimitz? It's a full-size plane - with people in it. If the pilot made a mistake and did not see the X where the runway numbers should be, that's one thing. If the pilot had an emergency and had to put down, that's another thing. Either way, it's not an issue for R/C modelers to handle. If the pilot was hot-dogging - then great, you have his tail number, call the FAA.
My point is, how are you going to tell if he's hot-dogging or having a heart-attack?
Why is the guy in pictures 1 and 2 trying to wave off a full-size plane like he's the LSO on the back of the Nimitz? It's a full-size plane - with people in it. If the pilot made a mistake and did not see the X where the runway numbers should be, that's one thing. If the pilot had an emergency and had to put down, that's another thing. Either way, it's not an issue for R/C modelers to handle. If the pilot was hot-dogging - then great, you have his tail number, call the FAA.
My point is, how are you going to tell if he's hot-dogging or having a heart-attack?
09-05-2004 | 04:17 PM
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Oh believe me, ATC (air traffic control) is watching anything that comes over the border.....especially penetrating the ADIZ (air defence identification zone). If u don't make contact with them, u will be intercepted by the military [X(].
09-07-2004 | 12:26 AM
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ORIGINAL: KFalcon
"Sir the fuel pressure was really glitchy. I made my first approach towards the field thinking I was going to set it down. I realized there were poeple on the field so I want around at the last minute to give them time to get out of the way. The second attempt they were closer to the runway so I went around again. This time motioning to them to get clear. The third attempt they were in the middle of the runway! I had no choice but to fly a plane with low fuel pressue to another airport." Says the pilot to the FAA official.
"Sir the fuel pressure was really glitchy. I made my first approach towards the field thinking I was going to set it down. I realized there were poeple on the field so I want around at the last minute to give them time to get out of the way. The second attempt they were closer to the runway so I went around again. This time motioning to them to get clear. The third attempt they were in the middle of the runway! I had no choice but to fly a plane with low fuel pressue to another airport." Says the pilot to the FAA official.
And of course the FAA will ask to see the aircraft log book for documentation of such 'glitches'.
09-07-2004 | 12:28 AM
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RE: MAYHEM AT PRADO!!!!!!
ORIGINAL: toucano
Why is the guy in pictures 1 and 2 trying to wave off a full-size plane like he's the LSO on the back of the Nimitz? It's a full-size plane - with people in it. If the pilot made a mistake and did not see the X where the runway numbers should be, that's one thing. If the pilot had an emergency and had to put down, that's another thing. Either way, it's not an issue for R/C modelers to handle. If the pilot was hot-dogging - then great, you have his tail number, call the FAA.
My point is, how are you going to tell if he's hot-dogging or having a heart-attack?
Why is the guy in pictures 1 and 2 trying to wave off a full-size plane like he's the LSO on the back of the Nimitz? It's a full-size plane - with people in it. If the pilot made a mistake and did not see the X where the runway numbers should be, that's one thing. If the pilot had an emergency and had to put down, that's another thing. Either way, it's not an issue for R/C modelers to handle. If the pilot was hot-dogging - then great, you have his tail number, call the FAA.
My point is, how are you going to tell if he's hot-dogging or having a heart-attack?
I'd be waving the guy off too.
09-07-2004 | 12:47 AM
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ORIGINAL: Lt. Dan
And of course the FAA will ask to see the aircraft log book for documentation of such 'glitches'.
And of course the FAA will ask to see the aircraft log book for documentation of such 'glitches'.
How hard is it to go to the shop and say, "My fuel system was glitching for a short time during the last flight." The AP&I checks it out finds nothing and logs it. At that point it is logged that there was a malfunction of some sort at some point in time.
09-07-2004 | 01:51 AM
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RE: MAYHEM AT PRADO!!!!!!
ORIGINAL: KFalcon
How hard is it to go to the shop and say, "My fuel system was glitching for a short time during the last flight." The AP&I checks it out finds nothing and logs it. At that point it is logged that there was a malfunction of some sort at some point in time.
ORIGINAL: Lt. Dan
And of course the FAA will ask to see the aircraft log book for documentation of such 'glitches'.
And of course the FAA will ask to see the aircraft log book for documentation of such 'glitches'.
How hard is it to go to the shop and say, "My fuel system was glitching for a short time during the last flight." The AP&I checks it out finds nothing and logs it. At that point it is logged that there was a malfunction of some sort at some point in time.
