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Old 11-05-2004 | 12:46 PM
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Hi guys,

Normaly we see only the outside of a jet, when somebody has build it.
But i also want to see the inside of it. How they build all the equipment in the plane.

The reason for this is, that i am going to building a jet, and want to now how everybody builds in his equipment. Because it is a little more equipment than a prop-plane.

So i am asking to everybody, who has nice pictures of the inside of his plane, please post them.

greetings Paul
Old 11-05-2004 | 01:00 PM
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Hi Paul,

You might find more help with your jet if you could tell us what kit your building, what power plant, radio, etc? Each plane's a little different, along with the ECU (assuming it’s a turbine)...

Maybe post a photo of what you have so far?

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Old 11-05-2004 | 01:10 PM
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Hello Kelly,

The plane i am going to build is an DV8R whit an AMT Mercury as power plant.
The AMT has the older ECU version.
Because there will be a lot of space, i want to now where to place eveything. But also like to do up some idea's how other people did build everything in, in there plane. So not specialy an DV8R which i like to see.
The radio will be from Futaba, whit 8411 servo's.

greetings Paul
Old 11-05-2004 | 03:13 PM
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Here a few inside shots of my old Viperjet.-
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Old 11-05-2004 | 03:40 PM
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I believe wojtek's Gripen provides a good example of a nice, clean install.
Old 11-05-2004 | 04:52 PM
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Thanks for the reactions,

What of placing the fuel pump and receiver. What should the space been between these to?
And does an ECU affect the signal of the receiver?

greetings paul
Old 11-05-2004 | 04:55 PM
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I've seen where it appears to, and I've seen where it appears not too.

My eurofighter had over a hundred flights on it with the pump directly below the receiver by 1 ". Never a hint of a communication problem.

Good practice though is to keep it far away though.
Old 11-05-2004 | 07:20 PM
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A few different installations shots.
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Old 11-07-2004 | 07:38 AM
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hope the pictures will be usefull, here are fiberclassics SABRE, hotspot and firebird installation
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Old 11-07-2004 | 09:10 AM
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here are some i picked up
i think this is all Chris Reiter's work.

am i allowed to post pictures with a copyright sign at the bottom?
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Old 11-07-2004 | 10:18 AM
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heres the inside of my king cat .. i needed a 2nd level platform for mounting the rest of the equipment ...



Wojtek
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Old 11-07-2004 | 10:36 AM
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Another KingCat.........

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Old 11-07-2004 | 11:54 AM
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Some of you guys have a power box in her plane. From how many servo's you need this power box?
In the DV8R there will be 8 servo's for only control of the rudders.
Each 2 servo's will be connected to a Y-wire and than to the receiver (2 servo's for elevator ---> Y-wire ---> receiver, 2 servo's rudder ---> Y-wire ---> receiver, 2 servo's ailerons --> Y-wire ---> receiver, 2 servo's flaps ---> Y-wire ---> receiver.)

Whit those 8 servo's i didn't count the servo's for retracts, brake etc etc. The rudder function will even have 2 Y-wires to 1 receiver connection., because i also need to connect the steering servo of the retract. I think i need 3 or 4 extra small sevo's for those extra functions.

I need all those Y-wire's because i have not enough connections to my receiver and transmitter.
I have an Field Force 9 from Futaba, and this only can control 8 functions.
The functions i need are; 1:rudder 2:elevator 3:flaps 4: ailerons 5: retracts 6: brakes 7: engine switch 8: engine control

Can i feed al those servo's directly from the receiver, or do i also need a power box?

greetings Paul
Old 11-07-2004 | 01:45 PM
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Hi Paul!

Here are a couple of pictures inside my SpiderJets F-16. The clever thing about the SJF-16 is that there are 2 main bulkheads where practically
all your jet equipment fits - most of it has even been CNC-routed to accept the items of your choice.
Here you can actually mount all your equipment before you install the bulkheads in the plane - meaning you will be able to
test everything while you still have excellent access. This idea can easily be adopted to most other jets.
It makes the installation both easy and clean.
One important issue is your leads. Make sure that all your leads are strapped or fastened so there is no chance for them to move around
in a high G maneuver - even a very light lead or connector gets very heavy at 6-8 G's!




Good luck with your first jet!

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Old 11-08-2004 | 07:23 AM
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This is mine.... (SpiderJets F-16)... keep it simple ! (A thing of Beauty is a Joy forever (Keats))
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Old 11-08-2004 | 12:38 PM
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Hello Tor and nicolas,

Thanks for the pictures you both posted.
In the DV8R there is no engine ducting, so the same making as an F-16 will not be possible. But i understand to keep it simple.
But i also want to look it clean, so most of the wires underneat the platforms.

@Tor,

The DV8R isn't my first jet. I had a Salamander 2 years back, but on the landing something went wrong, and the plane broke in 2.
The plane was killed, but i was lucky that the engine and all the other control stuff stayed undamaged.
The salamander was easy build up. Only one servo for elevator and 2 for ailerons. But the DV8R will have much more components, for radio installation.
I don't want to look for the money, but want to build a plane which looks good from the outside, but also from the inside. And of course no bad equipment in the plane.

At this moment i am waiting till the kits arrives, i already downloaded the building instructions from the PCM site, and read this 3 times.
But in the building instructions there is nothing said about the build in of the equipment, how you can start the best etc etc.
The DV8R will get spring air 401 retracts, whit robart struts and Intairco wheels/brakes. The control will be a futaba receiver and 8511 or 8411 servo's. The engine will be an AMT mercury. More components i don't have at the moment.

SO all to you guys, thanks for the pictures of how you build in everything.
When i start whit the DV8R i will post some pictures, if you like?

greetings Paul.

P.S. Can anybody tell me something about the question i asked, about the power-box? (in this thread, 3 posts back)
Old 11-08-2004 | 01:41 PM
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Here some scemes, i want to use for the plane.
I don't decied yet, which one it will be

greetings Paul
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