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Old 11-13-2010, 05:48 AM
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I was flying a friends hawk when the canopy exploded. I think he got a new canopy parts from http://www.colchestera1models.co.uk/
Old 11-21-2010, 05:20 PM
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Hi

The retracts are in da house....
High quality....!!!!

Nickos

I checked AL's Hobby web site and didn't see this gear package. I'm sure its just been too long. So, do you know of another place to get these gear or oleo's. They look awesome. Thanks in advance for you time.
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What is the consensus on turbine powerplant? I have an E-turbax on 12S but want to go turbine.

Wren 44 Gold, Wren 54 MkII/III, P-60SE or someting else?

Love my little Hawk and would love to keep it going!

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I have the wren 54 MKII in it now as the wren was the turbine I had planned for it, but was being rebuilt at the time, and I just temp fitted the P60 to get it flying.
The Wren being shorter suits my tank setup, it is a couple of ozs heavier but not noticeable, but I can get about a minute extra on the same fuel which helps as it was only about 5:30 minutes with the P60.

Wren 54/P60 will give you better choice later on if you decide on something else.

I am very happy with the setup I have now, weight, CG, flap angles etc, always now use first stage flap on takeoff, and the crow on landing with full flap is very good, and it has very good flying characteristics with no signs at all of dropping a wing even when I got one landing a bit slower than I had planned


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Thanks for the info!

I even already have a MkII in my Nano so that would give me lotsa flexibity that way.

What pipe are you using? Do you have any pitch changes with power changes? With my 12S set up the Hawk pitched a lot with power change. I was able to mix a large part of that out but the correct fix would have been to get the thrust line right.

I saw a tank at Jet-Tech built for the AMD Hawk. I think it was 55 oz which would be great for the Wren. The 12S set up give me a very short flight. 2:30 and into the pattern. On the deck not later than 3:00. But hey, at least my landing weight is the same as my take-off weight. Even so, I have not experienced any wing dropping either.
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I have not seen any pitch changes at all, sounds like you may have been a bit tail heavy.

I need to measure the pipe.

55ozs would help I only have 48oz plus the header, not much room to fit a tank in the AMD Hawk, and I don't think I would like it in the space in front of the ducts due to the CG change, where I have my two 24oz you don't notice anything as they empty.
Old 04-30-2011, 01:14 AM
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Hye there,

Yesterday I`ve took a Will Hobby Hawk home which was lying in the shop for over 3 years due to transport damage.

I`m planning to repair the fuse and let this bird fly with a turbine.

Can someone in short tell me what modifications I must make to make it turbine safe?
I than can search this thread a little more specific, 27 pages is a lot to read [8D]

Here also some pics of the Hawk.
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:01 AM
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To make this model nice to fly it is important to keep it as light as possible. It will fly well on a MW44. It will need a push rod to operate the elevator and we had this sited beside the engine on the side of the fuslage. It needs a nice strong servo 10Kgcm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40a4c...eature=related

Wire legs may not look so pretty but will save the wing structure with a less than perfect landing.

Dont have too much flap when landing, use crow braking if you can.

It seems all Hawks will drop a wing if flown near the stall point and if it does it close to the ground that may well be the end of the model. If the model is light you will have a more forgiving airframe. We flew with a gyro on ailerons making landings much more stable. We had 3 of them and flew them a lot.

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Do the mods to the elevator and rudder servo positions you will find the details on this thread or on the RCgroups thread.
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Thanxs for the reply`s so far.

I will search for the servo mount modifications.
Will leave the max. flaps as per manual.

Engine? a MW44 will be very nice, as dealer for the Netherlands it also would be good for Wren
We will see, started with the wings for now, fuse will follow soon.

Will also post my buidling here.

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And did some progress [8D]

Made a plate for in the bottom fuselage opening to stiffen and straigthen the fuselage.
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And together with my F15.

They have the same span but the F15 weights 3 times more then the Hawk when it will be finished
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Old 05-30-2011, 04:38 AM
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Made some fuselage formers.
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Fixed the top door.
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Fuselage almost repaired, the grey paint is filler so I can detect dents, niks and scratches better.
The final fuse will be in a lot better shap but will not be as new.

But what the hack, as it flies I`m happy
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Wheel wells cut out.

A little big for the delivered wheels.


About the retracts, which kind of air operated retracts do you guys use and which trailing links will fit this model?
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Old 05-30-2011, 04:45 AM
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And the modification on the rudder servo position.
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Old 05-30-2011, 05:05 AM
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Wheel wells cut out.

A little big for the delivered wheels.


About the retracts, which kind of air operated retracts do you guys use and which trailing links will fit this model?
If I was building one again I would go for the new electric retracts
I see some are now even advertising a set with legs for the AMD hawk on ebay.
[link=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RC-Lander-Full-Metal-Electric-Retract-AMD-Bae-Hawk-/330538463014?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf5a0af26]Hawk electric retracts[/link]

[link=http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250761695065&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT]T45 version[/link]
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Old 05-30-2011, 05:46 AM
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Mhhh, the first ersion struts are also delivered by HK.
But these retracts looks much better.


But thanks for the info I looked at there website and will contact them.
Old 05-30-2011, 03:00 PM
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Default RE: AMD Hawk.

I have the same Hawk with the T-45 markings. I am using TamJets gear with breaks and a Wren 44 Gold. I have about 14 flights on it and love it. Make sure you add the wing fences. My first one did not have them and snapped on me when I was coming in a little slow. I have never seen a plane snap so quickly. I purchad the Navy T-45 decal sheet from SAPAC as they make a 100mm T-45 and the decals are the correct size for the AMD/Will Hobby T-45. I think I paid about $30 for the full set. See picture attached. Good luck with your build.

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Old 05-30-2011, 04:45 PM
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Looks good but needs a pilot badly,
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Agree.... I had some nice pilots that were the correct scale for the plane but they did not fit as the conopy is too low.
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Yes the canopy is the wrong shape scale wise it should be much more higher and dolphin like.

What I done with mine was to lower the floor by cutting out a square from the floor and made a 1" deep box out of balsa which I painted black and put my pilot/seat in.
Unfortunately I just sold mine last week, so I cant take a pic, but I have a shot through the canopy, you can just see what I done, the rear one is a bit clearer as it has no pilot just the seat.
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