Talk about crazy!
06-25-2005 | 06:43 PM
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RE: Talk about crazy!
I love the debates here and in the other threads more than the video.
You are always covered under the AMA whether you are flying at a field or in your house. I flew a .30 size raptor into the back of my head in my front yard three years ago. AMA incredibly covered the bills as they would have done had I flown it into a neighbor.
In my experiance, the medical would have been covered under the AMA, the lawsuits would be first homeowners, then AMA, then every manufacturer of every part that made that flying death trap flyable.
That being said, no injuries, no worries, Like Clayton Williams used to say, "Just relax, and enjoy it".
Sean
You are always covered under the AMA whether you are flying at a field or in your house. I flew a .30 size raptor into the back of my head in my front yard three years ago. AMA incredibly covered the bills as they would have done had I flown it into a neighbor.
In my experiance, the medical would have been covered under the AMA, the lawsuits would be first homeowners, then AMA, then every manufacturer of every part that made that flying death trap flyable.
That being said, no injuries, no worries, Like Clayton Williams used to say, "Just relax, and enjoy it".
Sean
06-25-2005 | 08:52 PM
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RE: Talk about crazy!
Actually the heli analogy is an interesting point. I've flown my heli in my backyard and probably at times the same distance he was from many of those kids in the pool. Now relatively speaking he probably is a better pilot to keep that plane under control overall than I am on a heli. Granted I can fly a heli and do basic stuff but Yuri is really good on airplanes. He could hover that thing in his sleep. So the question is who is more dangerous? I don't know but it certainly is an interesting perspective.
06-25-2005 | 09:02 PM
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RE: Talk about crazy!
ORIGINAL: wojtek
easytiger,
that is a good point, and one that a lot of AMA members do not understand. The AMA does not govern what is done with RC planes anywhere but at AMA facilities. This blatant act of stupidity in the video is clearly out of AMA jurristiction, however i could see this actually falling under some kind of criminal violation of the law... like "wreckless endangerment" !! going back to the AMA issue, and if they can pull someones membership or privileges based on somehting done outside of their juristiction : Compare this to a drivers license. If you take your car on private property, or to a (legal) drag strip, and you are racing it, or breaking 150 MPH, skidding all over the place , and hitting other cars on the track (all part of the game ) ... the state can not pull your drivers license for this as the location of the driving is out of their juristiction, and all participants understand the risks involved. If you however take your car on private property, and line up 20 of the local kids in front of a plywood ramp and try jumping your car over them, then this becomes a criminal offense.
Wojtek
Are you quite sure you want AMA to be that kind of enforcement agency? Are you sure you want them passing judgement on you in that form?
What does this really have to do with AMA, anyway? I mean, he is in obvious violation of the AMA safety code, there is no way AMA could be involved in this.
What does this really have to do with AMA, anyway? I mean, he is in obvious violation of the AMA safety code, there is no way AMA could be involved in this.
easytiger,
that is a good point, and one that a lot of AMA members do not understand. The AMA does not govern what is done with RC planes anywhere but at AMA facilities. This blatant act of stupidity in the video is clearly out of AMA jurristiction, however i could see this actually falling under some kind of criminal violation of the law... like "wreckless endangerment" !! going back to the AMA issue, and if they can pull someones membership or privileges based on somehting done outside of their juristiction : Compare this to a drivers license. If you take your car on private property, or to a (legal) drag strip, and you are racing it, or breaking 150 MPH, skidding all over the place , and hitting other cars on the track (all part of the game ) ... the state can not pull your drivers license for this as the location of the driving is out of their juristiction, and all participants understand the risks involved. If you however take your car on private property, and line up 20 of the local kids in front of a plywood ramp and try jumping your car over them, then this becomes a criminal offense.
Wojtek
Unfortunately, Mr. Matt is ALSO right in that they are going to sue anyway, and in the end, it's up the AMA's INSURER(Royal Insurance?) to decide what they want to do, and they could just settle. So, yeah, AMA would probably be on the hook.
But their problem. The fact of the matter is AMA is not an enforcement agency, it's a free country, and you CAN do what you want with a model airplane in your backyard, AMA can't do diddly about it.
You can reach a point called "negligent homicide", though!
06-25-2005 | 09:07 PM
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RE: Talk about crazy!
ORIGINAL: trioval00
scaleman, i truly have to think, if those people there, really knew how dangerous that was, i am sure the would have ran out of the pool. in the beginning of the video, listen to the camera man, he is not to thrilled with the idea either.. but then again this video was shot almost 5 years ago. maybe he has grown up?
mark
scaleman, i truly have to think, if those people there, really knew how dangerous that was, i am sure the would have ran out of the pool. in the beginning of the video, listen to the camera man, he is not to thrilled with the idea either.. but then again this video was shot almost 5 years ago. maybe he has grown up?
mark
If you can't recognize that a big model airplane with a big spinning propeller is not dangerous hovering right around your head is DANGEROUS, maybe you ought to be culled from the gene pool!
People OFTEN say "oh, I had NO IDEA it was dangerous!" when someone whipped out a 5 gallon can of gasoline, some sparklers, and some M-80's...me, when that stuff appears, I'll watch from behind a fence...if those dolts sitting by the pool can't figure out that the airplane is dangerous, well...
