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Old 10-27-2002 | 10:42 PM
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I wanted to get some feedback on the AD Mirage (small version), building, flying, etc. Also, does it lend itself to turbine power? Would love to see some pics of yours if you have one.

Any info is appreciated, and if anyone has one for sale please let me know!

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Brian
Old 10-28-2002 | 01:19 AM
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I don't know what size it is, but Dave Fusinato from Fresno, CA, has / had an AD Mirage AFAIK.

I don't have his contact info available right now, but could dig it up if you need it.

For a short while I also had one of these kits in my garage, that a friend wanted me to build for him. He ended up selling it to someone else before I got around to doing anything with it.

My impressions of it (formed on just looking through the kit, not trying to build it) were that it was an average quality composite kit. The wings seemed heavier than necessary, and glancing down the LE I could see substantial amounts of excess epoxy in the join - this could be partly to blame for the weight. The large area of the wings would probably still carry the aircraft with no problem, but compared to other composite wings that I was more used to, they were just a tad overweight.

The landing gear was very roughly cast, and would need some TLC to make them look presentable.

I don't in any way mean to put you off this kit - just pointing out a couple of little things that struck me when I pawed through the parts.

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Hi Gordon, it's my understanding that the smaller of the kits is not all composite. I'm pretty sure it has sheeted foam flying surfaces.
Old 10-28-2002 | 03:14 PM
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Could be. When I said I wasn't sure about the size, it probably looked like I was talking just about Dave's one, but I actually meant both Dave's and my buddy's.

The Mirage sure is a neat looking beast. I used to watch the full-size ones a lot when I lived in South Africa. One fo these days I might still get around to building a model, and doing it in the SADF colours.

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The Mirages you were watching in South Africa are Mirages F1, which are really different than the 2000.
The F1 's got a high swept wing with tailplanes whereas the 2000 is a pure delta aircraft.
Anyway AD's small Mirage has obechi covereded foam wings.
I saw one fly with a JPX engine but it was really to heavy for that small wing
Ram500/MW54 would be ideal for this bird.
Check AD web site at www.adjets.com

Florent
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Florent,

Gordon watched both Mirage IIIs and Mirage F1s in South Africa.
Of course, neither of those variants is a Mirage 2000, but there have been PLENTY of the classic Mirage deltas in the South African skies for past 30+ years.

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Yep ,
I forgot they had Mirage III's....
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Well I have a Sophia so that may put me into the too heavy zone.
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Brian ,

you can also find a medium sized Mirage2000N (twin seat) which would be good for sophia power.
I've seen one fly with a jetcat 80 and it was very good
You can go to http://christen.diffusion.online.fr/
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Florent,

That looks like a good size, any idea on the pricing? My french isn't so good

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The basic kit costs 760 Eur, with cut wood parts it costs 830 Eur and if you add 530 Eur you will receive the kit with everything glued in the fuse (formers air inlet some work done on the wings too). The quality is very good, nearly as good as Avonds
No bypass or tailpipe is included, the fuse has no panel lines.
The scale legs are at 330 Eur and you can also buy wing and centerline tanks

Florent

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