has anyone received their mamba yet. i am intrested in customer satisfaction. i need another 12lb turbine. thx barry

U2fast,

I didn't want to just jump in on this one like the typical sales guy , but seeing as no one has answered your question yet I wanted to let you know the PST-J600 will be approved hopefully by late November. I am busy working the engine's application now and the demo engine is already in the US. Its a 13lb engine also heavily based on the MW-54, as is the Mamba with the exception that the PST has electric auto start capability rather than air auto. There are a number of engines already flying in most parts of the world today. Weight is ~2.2lb with starter, max RPM is 160K, and intro US price will be $2100+shipping.

Thanks,
Kelly

Kelly,
what is the fuel consumption in "ounces/minute" at 13 pounds?
Chris

Hi Gents

Since Kelly jumped in, I might as well too.

The SimJet 1200 is an MW54 based engine which produces a miminum thrust level of 12 lbs. It is available as both auto-electric and auto-air start. All the electric start engines are provided with the air start port as standard equipment. Dimensionally, the 1200 is 3.5 inches in diameter, weighs in at 2 lbs. and has a rated fuel consumption of 6.7 oz/min. The 1200 is fully AMA approved and is available directly through us or our dealer Gary Jefferson. Current price is $2199 plus shipping within North America.

Sincerely,
Ed
Simply Blue

I'll try to answer the original question with " only a few select modelers / manufacturer's " have received the Mamba that I know of......"for further testing". In talking with " the testers" their experience thus far is that the engine seems to perform well. As of yet, I don't think you can place an order and expect delivery tomorrow for an engine.

Heard the " two week delivery thing " at Florida Jets and again at Superman. Even had a well known jet modeler stand with me witness the statement. I don't know.....credibility, price and having to lug around a scuba tank again will likely prevent me from looking any further. There is certainly a large market potential out there for a reasonably priced, well designed commercially produced Wren sized engine. I do know that Simjet and PST are serious about accommodating this market.

SWB ????

thx guys i have been watching the post on simjet and pstj600. i like the looks of both and that scuba tank does blow, iknow i have 2 amt,s know. thx barry

Hi Dean,

I received an e-mail from Andy Low last week saying he was sending the "final" ecu software changes to SWB for their approval and shipping should start in a few weeks. Some people don`t mind lugging around the air tank but I am spoiled with the elec start. Also the price on the Mamba is a bit more than the PST-600 and Simjet 1200. If you take a long hard look at it, the Jetcat P-80 is the way to go in that price range, assuming of course there is room in the jet for a KJ-66 size motor.

Vin...

Chris,

There were a few changes made before the guys went full production on the PST so I can't accurately quote the fuel consumption rate yet. I do know it is competitive with the other MW-54 designs by nature and the AMA engine didn't go through my 1.2L test stand tank too quickly. I am kicking myself for not measuring it... The next chance I have will be when my demo engine arrives in the next week or so. I will need to check with Kraivuth (B777) on that.


Later,
Kelly

In reply to this post.
This is not the place for comercial sales of other turbine manufactures.
This is also not the place for this kind of reply.
There is a place for your advertisment. Pay your $ to RCU and buy a banner. Or list it in product announcements.
I hope everyone agrees with my opinion.

Hello Trevor,
Maybe this is the place to remind you and all who have been following the saga of when are you going to send me my overpayment check.For the record your e-mail last week stated for the fourth time my little check was in the mail.Not only are you a liar and a thief I think anyone who does business with you should really think twice.Do you treat everyone this way?

Hooked,

Correct, maybe my 'tongue and cheek' reply could be perceived wrongly but I assure you no harm was meant, shown by the fact that the lines in question are now gone. I have also been informed that my avtar is not allowed by RCU rules, so I have changed it to suit.

My apologies to any other manufacturers in this forum that disagree with my posting of info for this engine class, but the facts remain that the original question still has not been answered aside from Dean's recollection and Barry seems appreciative of the response by others including Ed and myself.

Although I've never had a moderator comment on my postings, I'll try not to stress things as much in the future. To even the score here, there are other manufacturers Barry should consider, JDE, WREN, Moores' Turbines, AMT, etc... At this point, I'd invite any users of those brands to chime in for Barry's benefit.

Good luck,
Kelly

I have been reading this continuing post,regarding the Wren and JDE 54 is available and AMA approved,the engine is available with Auto start price is $2195.00 +S&H
the paper work has been submitted to the AMA for the 44 and JDE is working to finish the approval process.
Dennis Fuente
JDEnterprise.net

I hardly think any of the postings were "commercial advertisements" just letting the guy know what else is available in the 12 pound market since the Mamba dude still hasnt answered.

Easy now! Thats if the moderators have an issue, they will let the guys know. We dont need RCU vigilantes...

Thats MY ".02"

Andrew Coholic

Why wait ? These guys deliver.

www.funsonic.com

TO

I think a lot is being said by the SWB manufacturers by the silence we're hearing from them on this thread...

Johnny (RAM owner and anxiously awaiting delivery of a JetCat)

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Why does the jet crowd preffer RCU ? The censorship on this forum is unbelievable to me ,, ???? is exactly twhat your used to without the politicaly correct police.......
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TOP TEN REASONS why the jet crowd preffers RCU

10) There are about 45,000 posts in the jets and jets for sale forums combined here to buy, sell, read, learn, laugh and have fun with vs a grand total of...1 post(s) there.

9) It is more entertaining even in its highly censored form than say, watching the glue dry while taking a break from building.

8) There are lots of pictures (we like pictures, especially since some folks can't, won't or just don't like to read).

7) If someone posts something really bad, a loyal stick-wielding vigilante will attack with wild abandon until the moderator trumps him (or his stick gets taken away by another vigilante). :boxing:

6) Shameless vendor posts. We love when a deep philosophical discussion about sandpaper and "amine bloom" turns into a commercial for the latest and greatest jet (which by the way, is the only one that will fly at all ).

5) Misspelings. Theese R the funnest postz! sUmtymez U kant evn tel wut there tying da tipe in thu/ box, U no? :stupid:

4) For some, its the ability to take on a brand new identity and name thereby allowing for an online personality reversal while remaining known only by the elusive screen name "Ultra-Super Slick-Mega-Turbine-Jet-Guy8675309" :devious:

3) Event Coverage. If you just dropped a transmission hauling your $40K trailer 1800 miles to an event (or are monitarily indisposed from the recent impulse purchase of the only jet that will fly) to attend an event, there are lots of guys who post great coverage of the events. These often include cryptic posts and inside jokes in regard to where the beer tent will be, how to find the local [ahem] friendly tavern and even something about pig rental...

2) Useful information and ideas about what we love - Jets. There is no way I could have ever guessed that changing tires involved "stomping". I have not been flying jets long enough to need to "stomp on one" yet, but I can't wait to! Its fun just reading about it!

And the number one reason we jet guys love RCU, hands down, has to be the chance to pick up expensive jet stuff for great prices!
If it were not for RCU, I would have less than half of the jet stuff I 've got now! We love a bargain! You don't even have to need it - if its selling for 45% off list, its GOLD! Heck, I didn't even know I wanted it until I saw the price, and now I go to sleep trying to figure out how many side-jobs I need to do to cover the cost (and um, could you ship that to my work address - she doesn't need to know about this just yet...)

c/f, I visited the site you linked. It looks pretty new - a little too new for you to come here and cry censorship in the biggest forum of its kind. on earth. Where else can you find the best in the business and the newbies alike gaining a wealth of knowlege and sharing in our hobby on such a large scale?

Competition is good - I hope the site grows. But don't think it will work without some rules. Think about it, if there were no traffic laws would you be comfortable hopping into the car and driving to work every morning?

If you are saying that one of your posts in this forum was deleted because of your opinion, not because you didn't follow the rules, I would be interested in knowing about it. I would think lots of other people would, too. What specifically prompted your post?



Rusty Bardin
[email protected]

Rusty is correct. Viva la R/C U!

Time to go rent a pig....

c/f, sounds like a good idea, you go there and wait for us Well be right there, honest!

Well I cud rase a 40K brew to that pig-stomping vigilante.
Hey you forgot one:
RCU-ites have an uncanny ability to change subjects with every 3rd post, making it practically impossible to locate that tidbit of useful information by reading the thread titles. Lets get back to why the SWB Mamba is the best turbine ever made ever.
To place an order for your SWB turbine you'll never get, please visit www.swbturbines.com. (remote start sold separately, see dealers for details)

Well as my old boss used to say, "the proof is in the pudding".

Who can argue with RCU Jet forum's success? Although I have been deleted many times here, hey it is their forum I guess they can do whatever they want.

But as for the latest in the business side of these turbines (there must be 15 manufacturers chasing 2000 customers!!) don't come here!!

In the zeal to avoid manufacturing bashing, many of my posts about RAM early this year were deleted (usually prompted by reps).

Anybody that had removed their ear protectors at Florida Jets 2002 knew that things had taken a very nasty turn for RAM. As I have said before if you hang out at the tents and just listen you hear about a lot of stuff.

As for the Mamba, it looked like a nice turbine, but it sure looked like the unit they had a Florida last year had a hand built turbine wheel. So one has to ask how close were they if they did not have the cast turbine wheels at the big public display.

Don't get me wrong the motor may be fine, but it was shown early. Now as to SWBs business reputation, you will just have to ask around, as any comments here will be deleted (see my note above)

Censorship is kept to minimum and is done only when necessary. We will censor product bashing if it's only hearsay. If I don't have enough evidence at my disposal to defend a libel lawsuit against such an attack then it won't stay. If somebody says the worse possible thing about ANY company and I have enough evidence or corroboration to back it up then it will stay. If the company doesn't like it I don't care cuz I can prove it if they feel the need to challenge it in court.

What I have seen here is a few one off posts shooting arrows at different companies with little substantiation other than their word. Sorry but I'm not playing judge and jury on the word of one person with no evidence other than their side of the story. If I had a substantial number or reputable people all back it up then it would stay but otherwise we try to be fair against the prodding which is often done by competitors under alias names. RCU will take the high road and do what is fair and right for the users as well as the companies who provide the products we use to enjoy this hobby whom without we would have no toys to play with.

Well, I too fly 3D helis, turbine jets, fun fliers, old timers, rc aerobatics,1/4 and 1/3 giant scale, 1/2A not to mention FF and cL which are not discussed here. RCU has been THE place for me to gain much and also share my experiences. Living in a small isolated part of Northern Ontario, its a godsend! Yes, there have been times where I have been miffed at a not so helpfull reply, and also probably gave my "too strong" of an opinion once or twice as well. BUT thats no different than attending any club meeting that I have been a member of. RCU is definitely 95% great, informative and the 5% other stuff I can deal with for the rest.

Andrew J. Coholic (my real name)
ajcoholic

My concerns are moral, ethical and legal. As for you not understanding much on the subject of "legalities" than you should think about getting your facts before you make comments such as the ones you have just made. It doesn't help your cause.

Anyway...your point HAS been heard AND without any censorship so let's get this thread and forum back onto IT"S topic which is RC jets. If you don't like it here guess what? Other sites are only a click away. If we were doing something SO drastically wrong here people wouldn't come here every day to enjoy the site and Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest would prevail.

I suggest you spread your uncensored opinions onto the other sites that all decided that hammering it out was the best way for the users. As for RCU my friend, 18,000 users have voted that they like the way we do business here and we are THE #1 Largest RC website on the internet and pull ahead further with every passing day. If we had the formula wrong I don't believe this would be the case.

That's it...end of story.

what is that ranting about c/f. go away. i am just looking to see if anyone has a mamba yet. i fly jets, combat, 3d, pattern, scale, sport, race rc cars, and play a little chess but is that an issue. i rarely see nasty post here, these are mostly good people with a little wit and we here know how to take it. i had a post deleted once, and i was angry, and i voiced my opinion and it was kindly explained you cannot post a plane for sale on two boards at the same time and read the rules. it takes up band space. i apologized, sold the plane, and quietly left with my foot in my mouth where it belongs. i saw the site address earlier today when you posted and saved it planning on going there and taking a look around but after your last post i erased it. just to much preaching for me. thanks rcu for a great site to share info and build online friends. thanks barry

So.............. Where is SWB's answer anywhoooooo??