A friend of mine tell me that the Skymaster is working on a F14 ?? [8D][8D]

It's true ??

Something other news ??

Gabriele

Anything is possible

Even if its true, it will be a long time since some of the planes on their website are still not released and I'm sure, they have people waiting on those - I know I am

Adil

What ever happened to the Rafale they had on their site? I saw the video of the test flight then it was gone.

Any information for us?

Patrick

Hi Patrick,

I don't have any factual info on that. Last I heard (here online or chat - not sure), the Rafael was just a test of their Mirage 2000 with canards. I know there was a thread about it not being scale. I would think that SM will come out with one a little more scale than what they showed previously. Maybe Eric or one of their dealers can chime in.

I do know that they are working on some re-design and better composite structures and hence the delay in some of their eagerly awaited new models. I'm just as anxious in line to get the F-4. Hopefully by spring of next year.

BTW, I could not just sit and do nothing - so I just put together a BVM Bobcat comp and a SCALE Mig-21 that I love just looking at. Maybe, I'll post some pictures one of these days.

Thanks - Adil

Adil, show the Mig-21, I already have a Comp. BC, I don't want to see that one

George

Hi George,

Ok! I'll try to take some pictures tonight. I've to tell you though - I had some help on the BC paint job and it really looks awesome. I'll let you guys be the judge though

Adil

lets see it
i will be the judge of that
vinny

What kit is the Mig 21?? V..

Hi V,

Its a Golden West Models one. It is a bit of work (I guess I'm getting spoiled with the advent of ARF's from SM and such) but well worth the effort. It has all the scale detail molded in and I made up some additional stuff like the fences, pitots, antennas etc.

I think I'll start a new thread on that one tonight once I take some pictures so we don't hijack this thread anymore.

Later,

Adil

Maybe I'm getting my aircraft mixed up, but wouldn't a Mirage with canards be a Kfir rather than a Rafale ?

Yes nothing is impossible, that all I can say now. We are working on several new projects. Next year will be a very exciting year for Skymaster. (Do not miss Florida Jet 2006! You will not disappointed) We recently set up an new 1200 sq. meter (13,000sq.ft.) R&D center. We have introduced a lot of new building technology & material. In future the Skymaster planes will be even lighter, stronger, and better quality.

Sorry, Adil and many other people are waiting for the F-4, F-16, Rafale, etc.. The planes are still doing some improvement, and testing. We believe we will have the planes ready before flying season starts next year.

Back to this thread, seriously F-14 is one of my/our favorite planes. In the near future we might not be available to carry it, but maybe show up sometime in the future, you never know!

Patrick

This is the only info I find regarding the Rafale. http://www.rcarf.com/rafale.htm If I'm not wrong Mr.Anto Lin from SM is the designer. Not sure is he also own RCARF. May be some one from SM can give us some extra info.
Rgds,
Alejandro

Cool - sounds promising !

Sorry if I'm behind the curve here, but it kinda sounds like there are two separate Skymaster factories just now (?), and now there's this new R&D centre ... is this part of one of those two, or something separate, or is there only one factory and I've just had too much wine again, or wot ?

Either way, good luck with the new / expanded venture.

Eric, if I may ask, why do you feel you may not be able to carry the F-14? What are some of the issues you face with offering it? With the popularity this jet has had in the past year, I think it would be a hot item. IMO, and I could be wrong here, given it's unique dynamics (wing swing, spoilers, etc...), I think it would certainly be a pricier jet compared to the others you offer now. The fact that 1 turbine would not be an option for this model might also be a deterent for potential buyers. I would certainly be interested in seeing how it does on the market, you might just be pleasantly surprised. What are your thoughts? Regards,

Richie

Gordon,
I appreciate that you are concern about Skymaster. I know they have some rumors around about Skymaster. I would like to make it clear and explain to you. In fact Skymaster not only have 1 or 2 facilities, but has 3 facilities, and some outsource parts suppliers.

Facility #1 is for main production. When Anton decide to add more investment and set up his own factory 2004, this was the factory we start from. Currently we are production F-22 and MB-339 in this facility . (see current factory picture below)

Due to our expanding, the space is not enough for us. We decided to set up facility number 2, it consist of painting the planes. (such as F-18F Diamondback and many two tone camouflage F-15, F-18C/E, etc.)

Recently the space is not enough for the high demand and we like expanding R & D department for better products. So, we decided to remove R & D department and setup a independent facility number 3. The R & D center focus on new airplanes design, and testing the airplanes. Also research for new material and building method. As I mentioned next year we will have new and exciting change in Skymaster, with the new products and many new improvement.

[quote]ORIGINAL: avicom

Patrick

This is the only info I find regarding the Rafale. http://www.rcarf.com/rafale.htm If I'm not wrong Mr.Anto Lin from SM is the designer. Not sure is he also own RCARF. May be some one from SM can give us some extra info.
Rgds,
Alejandro



RCARF.COM it’s a separate company from Skymaster but both of them have a pretty strong relationship between the 2 companies. I design all of the planes for RCARF.COM, and Skymaster is involvement in some of the production. In other words, RCARF.COM is related to Skymaster, but the production is different. For example the A-10X, balsa wing and composite fuselage, which does not exist in the Skymaster line.

For the Rafale, currently we are still doing a lot improvement. And we are even considering redoing the mold. According to my experience it have a lot of place have to improve, when we test fly the first prototype Rafale. And also many people already know, the scale has some issues that need to be corrected. We are currently busy in improvement of this plane (and other projects too), so it might take a while to get release on the market. We like to make sure all the planes I have design has the best performance. And I will keep update with these project. Regards your

Anton Lin / Skymaster Jet

Thank you Mr. Anton Lin, for the explanation, but in regard of the thread , something news about the F14 ??

Mr. Anto Lin, thanks again. And to keep in track, any extra info about F-14? True or false?

well, for the die-hard fans of the f-14 with only one turbine, it could be done with a single turbine "option" like the Leibetrau SU-27 couldn`t it ?

I guess it would depend on how important "SCALE" is to you....Personally, I don't like the idea, despite it's feasibility, but that's just my opinion. Any others? Regards,

Richie (diehard Tomcat fan)

I am agree.
I prefere the "scale look" !!
Infact I 'he build the some model ( Libetrau SU-27) with 2 Jet CAt P80.

GAbriele

What do you think which is more important? Any input welcome, thank you.

A. Two turbines for scale, but higher cost. (not this plane, the turbines cost)

or

B. Single turbine for economic

I prefer:

A: Two turbine for scale !!

Is true, is more expensive ( not so enough, because , for example 1 x 16 kg , don't cost half of 2 x 8 kg ) , but you have:

A: More Fun !!
B : More SCale
C: More security. On my Su-27 when 1 turbine shut down, I can fly and landing anyway.

For example, in the F14, I'll put 2 turbines [8D][8D][8D]

GAbriele

To answer that question I think you only need look at the F-18, and see how many people have built those as twin-turbine models vs single. The answer - VERY few.

Now, maybe this is partly because it's easier to "cheat" on the 18 than the 14 (due to there not being a tunnel between the engines), but nevertheless I think it shows that the number of people willing to fly a multi-engine turbine model is comparatively low. That presumably means that for a twin your R&D, tooling costs, etc., etc would have to be spread over a much lower number of kits / ARFs actually sold, so if I was in the market for a twin F14, I'd expect to pay accordingly.

Gordon

if any plane like the 14 or the su27 is to have the turbine outside like that, i would refuse to even look at it no matter how good the rest of the plane looked ..