CJM He-162 ?
05-18-2006, 05:46 PM
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CJM He-162 ?
I have a CJM He-162 that's the ducted fan version. Has anyone put a turbine in this version and what were the results, because CJM also makes a turbine version of this same airplane. In their ad, they claim that the tail section is made using hi-temp epoxy. Could the turbine exhaust soften the epoxy in the DF version, perhaps with disastrous results. Any thoughts on this out there in jet land.
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05-19-2006, 07:39 AM
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RE: CJM He-162 ?
That's interesting, a club member here in Austin mentioned something similar.
Katch, where's Oak Ridge? used to live in Jersey, Old Tappan near the Tappan Zee bridge.
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Katch, where's Oak Ridge? used to live in Jersey, Old Tappan near the Tappan Zee bridge.
Belonged to RocklandCountyRC club. Flew in Orangeburg, NY.
05-19-2006, 08:01 AM
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RE: CJM He-162 ?
Hmmm...strange, I lived in Austin for a bit too, after I got out of the Army back in '75. Great city! Oak Ridge, in in the NW corner of Morris County on the Morris/Passaic border by West Milford...in between Rt 15 and Rt 23.
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RE: CJM He-162 ?
hi guys,
I am building a tailpipe this weekend for CJM for a 162, if you are interested, it would be simple to make a couple more at the same time.
Regards, Roger Shook
I am building a tailpipe this weekend for CJM for a 162, if you are interested, it would be simple to make a couple more at the same time.
Regards, Roger Shook
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RE: CJM He-162 ?
i wanna know what it will fly like with a turbine . i have a turbine version 90% built and was gonna fit a 20lb turbine but not sure of the models characteristics in flight. any ideas ??????????
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RE: CJM He-162 ?
I have flown well over 200 flights on various turbine powered Heinkel 162s, I love them because of their unusual profile and the fact that everyone thinks they are ugly plus no one ever flys them , not,repeat not, because of their flight characteristics.
If you look on the cjm site you will see Bob Birketts 162, that I have flown, also AMT Netherlands gallery shows my 162, I have also flown a zirolli 162 using a 5lb Schreckling, that was really nice until the turbine set fire to the tail.
All He 162s have a visibility problem, it is easy to become disorientated if you have the rudders blue, a few had dark green rudders, they are much easier to see.
The engine location is not the best, particularly if you show off to a cameraman on a very slow pass, then apply full throttle, you will mush into the ground. Take off needs lots of elevator to overcome the engine pushing the nose down, I used 2 rates, take off and normal flight.
Landing as I do on 120 yards of grass needs a very quickly accelerating turbine to adjust descent accurately, I have always used AMT Netherlands Mercurys for my latest 162s because of the unbeatable throttle response. I used to have one of the first amt mercurys that had a reasonable response but when I got the latest version the difference in acceleration made landings far easier.
If you mess up the landing you need immediate power and all the elevator you can get.
The secret is to keep 162s as light as possible and you must have the fuel on cg, not easy with the cjm because the gear bulkhead gets in the way. You will have to modify it.
Gear is a major issue, as are the wheels, the bigger the better, I bought some beautiful expensive Glennis wheels for my cjm but they are the wrong size, far too small to be scale, and too small for grass, they sit looking beautiful in a box.
So in conclusion not an easy plane to fly, looks good in the air and is also quite fast, my german 162 with no gear reached 209 mph on the radar but the tail servos were starting to blow back.
Dont forget to heatproof the upper fuselage and center tail section
They don't glide or like being on fire
Lets say they are a rewarding challenge
Good Luck ! you will need it
If you want to know more pm me
Regards
Mark Diggle
If you look on the cjm site you will see Bob Birketts 162, that I have flown, also AMT Netherlands gallery shows my 162, I have also flown a zirolli 162 using a 5lb Schreckling, that was really nice until the turbine set fire to the tail.
All He 162s have a visibility problem, it is easy to become disorientated if you have the rudders blue, a few had dark green rudders, they are much easier to see.
The engine location is not the best, particularly if you show off to a cameraman on a very slow pass, then apply full throttle, you will mush into the ground. Take off needs lots of elevator to overcome the engine pushing the nose down, I used 2 rates, take off and normal flight.
Landing as I do on 120 yards of grass needs a very quickly accelerating turbine to adjust descent accurately, I have always used AMT Netherlands Mercurys for my latest 162s because of the unbeatable throttle response. I used to have one of the first amt mercurys that had a reasonable response but when I got the latest version the difference in acceleration made landings far easier.
If you mess up the landing you need immediate power and all the elevator you can get.
The secret is to keep 162s as light as possible and you must have the fuel on cg, not easy with the cjm because the gear bulkhead gets in the way. You will have to modify it.
Gear is a major issue, as are the wheels, the bigger the better, I bought some beautiful expensive Glennis wheels for my cjm but they are the wrong size, far too small to be scale, and too small for grass, they sit looking beautiful in a box.
So in conclusion not an easy plane to fly, looks good in the air and is also quite fast, my german 162 with no gear reached 209 mph on the radar but the tail servos were starting to blow back.
Dont forget to heatproof the upper fuselage and center tail section
They don't glide or like being on fire
Lets say they are a rewarding challenge
Good Luck ! you will need it
If you want to know more pm me
Regards
Mark Diggle
