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Old 07-02-2006 | 07:23 PM
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Hi Jet-Fans

Check out this website

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircra...ideo-6600.html

Turn on the volume to max

Was wondering if anyone has built and flown a turbine powered Vulcan? I recall that there was a ducted fan version flown a while back.
Maybe a video???
Old 07-02-2006 | 07:38 PM
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I saw this airplane fly at Carswell AFB in the early 80's and at the 50th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain.....WOW a fully acrobatlic bomber that rattled you teeth every time it flew by. Quite impressive!
Old 07-03-2006 | 05:19 AM
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http://www.largemodelassociation.com/jets.htm


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I was wondering why the Gov't won't allow any of these historic aircraft to fly. I'm a big EE Lightning fan and I know there are several airworthy examples in England, and qualified pilots to fly them but they just refuse to let them get airborne. The only place left to see one fly is South Africa, and that Gov't doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
I don't understand why letting them fly at special events would be an issue, but obviously, it is for some reason.
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Old 07-03-2006 | 12:11 PM
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Sadly the Lightning will never fly again in Britain, but the almighty Vulcan should if they can raise the last bit of money required. Everything is now in place, including CAA backing.
www.tvoc.co.uk

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Old 07-03-2006 | 03:26 PM
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Bloody mindedness of the CAA. There is every bit as much, probably vastly more, expertise in the UK than in S Africa to SAFELY operate a Lightning, but the UK CAA knows best or at least they THINK they do. I question their overiding, self imposed, competence. Seems to me that too many people on the UK CAA find poor reasons to STOP something happening rather than finding good reasons to create something positive in aviation and the Lightning is a, the, classic example. If Thunder City can do it, with a 100% safety record why can't we be allowed to do the same albeit under strict regulation and supervision ?

As an ex "V" pilot, Valiant and Victor, I DO hope the Vulcan flies in the very capable hands of my ex collegue Dave Thomas but its not looking good, from a financial viewpoint, according to "Flypast" magazine.

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Because the CAA is jobsworth civil servants who don't want the finger of blame pointed at them for allowing anything to fly when there is a crash. Their attacks on private flying of light planes are even more despicable than their effective banning of highly specialised ex military aircraft.
Old 07-03-2006 | 05:17 PM
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there are a few of us who can count ourselves lucky to have seen and heard a vulcan at low level being put through its amazing handling repertoire,the same goes for the lightning,my uncle was in 5 squadron stationed at raf binbrook and when we visited him he'd always take me up there to watch them,to see and hear them do that vertical climb is something i'll never forget.
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In the article in Flypast, Dave Thomas has warned that we are unlikely to hear the legendary Vulcan howl again when it does fly. When the Vulcan did a wing over at the end of the runway on full power, the howling noise (I presume from the intakes) was just incredible, and the thunder of the exhausts made it feel like the whole universe was vibrating. But the engines are very limited on cycle life, one cycle being idle to full throttle, so to maximise the restored Vulcan's engine life they will not be using full power unless it is absolutely vital and sadly the making of that noise which is what we all remember most, is not vital enough!

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Because the CAA is jobsworth civil servants who don't want the finger of blame pointed at them for allowing anything to fly when there is a crash. Their attacks on private flying of light planes are even more despicable than their effective banning of highly specialised ex military aircraft.

Sorry, but the CAA bods are NOT Civil Servants. I worked for them in ATC for 30 odd years. They USED to be known as (Ministry of Aviation, to Civil Aviation, to Board of Trade, then to the CAA . . .no one seemed to want the responsibility! )It is supposed to be an autonimous body using Government and International legislation. The big trouble is, like much of the UK industry, they hire bosses from the banks and insurance firms (not exactly a great CV for aviation management)! Having said that, if there was a crash, half the population would ask, why was it allowed to fly! and the other half wouldn't know what a Lightning or Vulcan was!. . and lets face it. . these two types of aircraft are hugely expensive and complicated to maintain and those in the industry never forget the Vulcan disaster at Heathrow after the around the world trip about 50 years ago (and how many on this forum have ever heard of it?).

I used to live at the end of the runway at Higher Poynton, and the row when the Vulcan took off on the NE heading was shattering, You could look up the tailpipes as it climbed out to the ATC "Eastgate" over the Pennines. Kids,chickens,goats,and deer would run around like maniacs!
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Here's a link for the Vulcan crash:
http://www.thisislongford.com/heathr...ulcan%20Bomber
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Vulcan did crash over a local village and killed one person. Lucky it was not more.

http://www.mas.org.mt/?page=92

When I was still at school (that's years ago!) I remember seeing most of the RAF planes (including the V-Bombers) at our local airport. Nostalgia!

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the vulcan in the uk is scheduled to start test flights in august and they are just in the process of system checks and engine runs . they have had a lot of help from the CAA suprisingly and if all goes well it will be on the show circuit next year. because of the amount of equipment removed because it was not neccessary then the aircraft will weigh considerably less than it it when it last flew so a series of flight tests and crew training programmes are needed before it hits the show circuit. It is already booked for a fly past next year for the anniversary of the falklands .
I am starting a kit of the vulcan and built a mould to 1/13th scale however i have decided to enlarge it slightly so am just about to start building one to probably 1/11th scale.
i hope to donate money from every unit sold to the preservation of the vulcan in future.
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the vulcan in the uk is scheduled to start test flights in august and they are just in the process of system checks and engine runs . they have had a lot of help from the CAA suprisingly and if all goes well it will be on the show circuit next year. because of the amount of equipment removed because it was not neccessary then the aircraft will weigh considerably less than it it when it last flew so a series of flight tests and crew training programmes are needed before it hits the show circuit. It is already booked for a fly past next year for the anniversary of the falklands .
I am starting a kit of the vulcan and built a mould to 1/13th scale however i have decided to enlarge it slightly so am just about to start building one to probably 1/11th scale.
i hope to donate money from every unit sold to the preservation of the vulcan in future.

Blimey! CAA help and approval. They must have promoted a few bodies from the shop floor to management! A big swing to the enthusiasts then. Ear plugs anyone?
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Here's a link for the Vulcan crash:
http://www.thisislongford.com/heathr...ulcan%20Bomber
Well remember this one. The girl I worked with was the GCA radar tracker for this inbound flight. The GCA radar operator was blamed for the crash. He never recovered from it. She always maintained that it was not the operators fault as the weather really wasn't on for a landing at that time and the crew insisted on landing. There was (is?) a theory that the Air Marshall on board was flying the approach. Do read the link above. . it tells it like it was.
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the vulcan in the uk is scheduled to start test flights in august
If that date is published in advance, stand by for massive traffic jams around that airport on the day!

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