s/m 1/6 f16 in my hot little hands!
10-13-2015, 06:34 PM
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Well I did the maiden flight & two more flights on separate days after that. All is good.
First impressions are that with the 3 tanks full, the C of G is very far forward (set at 225 mm empty), But I'm happy to report it's not a problem, at least doesn't seem to be. Time will tell.
Landing speed is slower than expected however the sink rate without power is huge, I'm not sure an engine off landing would be pretty.
I planned & set up the aircraft to fly with or without a gyro, I chose the Powerbox 3e gyro. The first flight was with it connected but turned off, I found that when the 3e is connected & configured to operate as a delta mixer it does not allow for individual end point or neutral point adjustment of each channel, which is a requirement due to difference in the manufacturing tolerances from both Skymaster & the servo/gear/arm set-up for the LEFT & RIGHT elevons. Anyone choosing to use the 3e would in my opinion need to accomodate mechanically for these differences before flying or be accepting that the elevators have different travel ranges in both the up/down positions. Personally I'm not comfortable with that & choose not to spend the time modifying the airframe structure/mounts/surfaces/etc.
The second & subsequent flight's were conducted with the gyro completely disconnected from the system & delta programming/endpoint/neutral all done inside the transmitter (JR12X/DSMX).
NOTES.
1) Particular to this model of mine (and Tor's possibly more) is that there are NO moving wing surfaces, everything is solidly moulded, this was a special order for Skymaster, as the flaps/slats are not needed & weight comes at a premium.
2) The aircraft fly's on just 3 servos & weigh's 18.5 KG empty, 23.85 KG fuelled & with a belly tank/wingtip missiles. Airbrakes & an air operated canopy are also installed, both systems work well.
3) The rudder set-up is a modified factory one. Servo is a JR8911HV is located in the tail box & many hours of modification went into installing secondary carbon hinges to remove ALL the slop. I'm taking a risk, that is understood, but I'm also trying to find a solution to the long time issue of the rudder breaking. Anton also specially reinforced the rudder surface with carbon & it is considerably heavier and more ridged than a standard production version.
4) The aircraft performance is unquestionable with the Behotec JB220 installed, 22KG of thrust is available at full throttle, care must be exercised with speed & it's limitation is critical, I'm trying to get a GPS speed limiter from ProJet for the Hornet 3 ECU & will limit the top speed to 280KMH. without the limiter the aircraft has the potential to reach speed's in excess of 500KMH in a straight line, but would, in reality break-up much before that speed. Throttle management is key.
5) I'm noticing a large tendency to either climb or drop the nose in the turns & I find it difficult to find the neutral point in this, I think its simply a case of experience & the need to balance engine thrust & elevon/rudder positions. This could also be a CofG issue or a product of the fixed wing surfaces & something I need to get used to.
Final items.
A) Planning on installing a drag chute & remove the 500 gram lead weight from the tail box.
B) Planning on installing a smoke system.
Please feel free to comment gentlemen, happy landings.
Now back to flight testing.
Cheers.
DJ.
First impressions are that with the 3 tanks full, the C of G is very far forward (set at 225 mm empty), But I'm happy to report it's not a problem, at least doesn't seem to be. Time will tell.
Landing speed is slower than expected however the sink rate without power is huge, I'm not sure an engine off landing would be pretty.
I planned & set up the aircraft to fly with or without a gyro, I chose the Powerbox 3e gyro. The first flight was with it connected but turned off, I found that when the 3e is connected & configured to operate as a delta mixer it does not allow for individual end point or neutral point adjustment of each channel, which is a requirement due to difference in the manufacturing tolerances from both Skymaster & the servo/gear/arm set-up for the LEFT & RIGHT elevons. Anyone choosing to use the 3e would in my opinion need to accomodate mechanically for these differences before flying or be accepting that the elevators have different travel ranges in both the up/down positions. Personally I'm not comfortable with that & choose not to spend the time modifying the airframe structure/mounts/surfaces/etc.
The second & subsequent flight's were conducted with the gyro completely disconnected from the system & delta programming/endpoint/neutral all done inside the transmitter (JR12X/DSMX).
NOTES.
1) Particular to this model of mine (and Tor's possibly more) is that there are NO moving wing surfaces, everything is solidly moulded, this was a special order for Skymaster, as the flaps/slats are not needed & weight comes at a premium.
2) The aircraft fly's on just 3 servos & weigh's 18.5 KG empty, 23.85 KG fuelled & with a belly tank/wingtip missiles. Airbrakes & an air operated canopy are also installed, both systems work well.
3) The rudder set-up is a modified factory one. Servo is a JR8911HV is located in the tail box & many hours of modification went into installing secondary carbon hinges to remove ALL the slop. I'm taking a risk, that is understood, but I'm also trying to find a solution to the long time issue of the rudder breaking. Anton also specially reinforced the rudder surface with carbon & it is considerably heavier and more ridged than a standard production version.
4) The aircraft performance is unquestionable with the Behotec JB220 installed, 22KG of thrust is available at full throttle, care must be exercised with speed & it's limitation is critical, I'm trying to get a GPS speed limiter from ProJet for the Hornet 3 ECU & will limit the top speed to 280KMH. without the limiter the aircraft has the potential to reach speed's in excess of 500KMH in a straight line, but would, in reality break-up much before that speed. Throttle management is key.
5) I'm noticing a large tendency to either climb or drop the nose in the turns & I find it difficult to find the neutral point in this, I think its simply a case of experience & the need to balance engine thrust & elevon/rudder positions. This could also be a CofG issue or a product of the fixed wing surfaces & something I need to get used to.
Final items.
A) Planning on installing a drag chute & remove the 500 gram lead weight from the tail box.
B) Planning on installing a smoke system.
Please feel free to comment gentlemen, happy landings.
Now back to flight testing.
Cheers.
DJ.
11-08-2015, 06:25 AM
#1854
Hi Anton
Attached some pics of my 1/6 F-16 with custom Dutch Lion paint and some scale additions. Thank you for this great flying model � Marcel van Dellen from Anstria
Attached some pics of my 1/6 F-16 with custom Dutch Lion paint and some scale additions. Thank you for this great flying model � Marcel van Dellen from Anstria
11-24-2015, 01:27 PM
#1856
Gary, dont have the jet in front of me, but i seem to remember using 1.5 inch on both elevators and ailerons. On the rudder i used the stock method that has the ball coming up into the bottom of the rudder. Dont remember the arm length on that one. Hope i partially helped
11-24-2015, 07:02 PM
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Gary, dont have the jet in front of me, but i seem to remember using 1.5 inch on both elevators and ailerons. On the rudder i used the stock method that has the ball coming up into the bottom of the rudder. Dont remember the arm length on that one. Hope i partially helped
Thanks, I am trying to help a friend. I will pass along the info.
12-26-2015, 08:36 PM
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01-05-2016, 07:00 AM
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Hello everyone!
I introduce myself ... I am Riccardo from Florence .. Italy...sorry for my bad English
I recently received my F16 g2 by Skymaster, I am very happy.
I read all 75 pages, but could not find any information on how to do (if possible) an internal link for the ailerons, I saw some pictures where i can't see theexternal link, I guess it inside ....
can someone help me?
this will be his color scheme see pic.....
thank you all !!
I introduce myself ... I am Riccardo from Florence .. Italy...sorry for my bad English
I recently received my F16 g2 by Skymaster, I am very happy.
I read all 75 pages, but could not find any information on how to do (if possible) an internal link for the ailerons, I saw some pictures where i can't see theexternal link, I guess it inside ....
can someone help me?
this will be his color scheme see pic.....
thank you all !!
01-05-2016, 08:34 AM
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That's Because He does not fly his 16s with ailerons, he glues them down and flies on tailerons only, He prefers it that way, if you want ailerons they will mount in the wing, the arm will come out of the skin and link will hook to horn on bottom of surface.
01-05-2016, 08:35 AM
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Hello Riccardo - welcome to the F-16 thread! I fly my F-16 with full flying stabs only, and no moving parts on the wings at all. The plane flies very nice
with this setup - for my first F-16, I actually glued the ailerons and only flew with the full flying stabs. This means a very easy setup with only 4 servos
in the plane: 2 for the stabs, 1 for rudder and 1 for nose wheel. I hope someone else will answer your question if you want to fly with ailerons.
Best regards, Tor
with this setup - for my first F-16, I actually glued the ailerons and only flew with the full flying stabs. This means a very easy setup with only 4 servos
in the plane: 2 for the stabs, 1 for rudder and 1 for nose wheel. I hope someone else will answer your question if you want to fly with ailerons.
Best regards, Tor
08-17-2016, 12:43 PM
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Hi all,
I need one brass vent on the main leg on my F-16. Any of you guys having one in spare?
I manage to damage one of them.
The producer states it is sent 3 weeks ago, by air mail. However not received yet. Probably lost in the mail system!
Please help me! I'm grounded due to this little brass vent (and a few other crash this summer....) :-D
I need one brass vent on the main leg on my F-16. Any of you guys having one in spare?
I manage to damage one of them.
The producer states it is sent 3 weeks ago, by air mail. However not received yet. Probably lost in the mail system!
Please help me! I'm grounded due to this little brass vent (and a few other crash this summer....) :-D
09-06-2016, 11:46 AM
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Has anyone tried the BVM Ebrake V2 on this jet? (The one that doesn't require an air tank) I am currently using a xicoy pulsing valve and the brakes are very effective with only 50 to 65 PSI in the system.
BVM did not know of anyone who has tried it. I would like to eliminate an air tank, fill valve, pressure guage, etc. from the jet if possible.
Thanks!
BVM did not know of anyone who has tried it. I would like to eliminate an air tank, fill valve, pressure guage, etc. from the jet if possible.
Thanks!
09-19-2016, 11:11 PM
#1873
@Ronnie,
I have a gen 1 F-16 and would like to know about the parts compatibility with the gen 2.
Are the wings totally different as in the mounts or something else? Are the elevators different?
Id like to see about adding the updated wings and replacing the elevators which are warped.
I have a gen 1 F-16 and would like to know about the parts compatibility with the gen 2.
Are the wings totally different as in the mounts or something else? Are the elevators different?
Id like to see about adding the updated wings and replacing the elevators which are warped.
09-20-2016, 07:46 PM
#1875
Here's some video we took of a recent flying day with a few Skymaster jets. You'll see my SM F16 in the Dutch F16 Demo Team colour scheme throughout the clip, with some onboard footage towards the end. The SM 1:6 F16 is such a great flying model.
Check out our SkyAcesRC Facebook page.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YTs1MaN5abI
Check out our SkyAcesRC Facebook page.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YTs1MaN5abI