Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
08-04-2006, 07:32 AM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
Hi Chuck,
I totally agree with you that Lars is a stalwart to the industry and really quite a true gentleman after buying 5 turbines from him and conversing with him on the phone.
His turbines run extremely well
Really knows his stuff.
I totally agree with you that Lars is a stalwart to the industry and really quite a true gentleman after buying 5 turbines from him and conversing with him on the phone.
His turbines run extremely well
Really knows his stuff.
08-04-2006, 08:23 AM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
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The 2250 had app 10,2 kg of thrust and the 2300 app 10,5 kg @ 122-123000 rpm / the new types still in produktion with blue front cover was named 2300-25 11,5 kg thrust BUT all af them deliver more then 12 kg to day.
Your engiens that i sold you many years ago was 2300 with gold cover and that have not changed even the frontcover have been painted red
Lars
The 2250 had app 10,2 kg of thrust and the 2300 app 10,5 kg @ 122-123000 rpm / the new types still in produktion with blue front cover was named 2300-25 11,5 kg thrust BUT all af them deliver more then 12 kg to day.
Your engiens that i sold you many years ago was 2300 with gold cover and that have not changed even the frontcover have been painted red
Lars
The engines were only 6 years old and had only been run twice.
I had sold the engines recently as 2300's and the chap who bought the engines, repaired them even although Simjet had stated they couldn't be fixed.
When he tried to resell the engines, he recieved numerous complaints from modellers stating that they were not infact 2300's. If the engines being 2250 and 2300 are the same price, with minimum difference, then I can't understand why there was such an outcry when he tried to resell them.
I felt terrible about the situation! as I felt that I had sold him something that wasn't as described to me. He was an engineer to trade, and had to remove them from sale, but luckily his close friend agreed to buy them from him.
08-04-2006, 11:52 AM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
Hi Guys, just to let you all know that I have 2 simjets. The latest 1200-18lb and the 2300-25lb and all I can say is that they are bloody awesome. They have never missed a beat and are so quick at excellerating !!! I have a simjet 2300-25 in a graupner harpoon and have flown at a few jet meets in the Uk and it goes like hot bloody snot. Its very quick to excellerate, approx 2 sec, and even overtakes my mates jetcat 120 powered hotspot. The lithium power system is spot on and the performance of both engines is truly amazing !!!!! So go out and buy the new ones and prepare to be amazed.
Tim Whitcombe
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08-04-2006, 05:25 PM
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Lars,
My 2300, blue cover was bough as a 23 pound engine with the simjec ecu (think late 2002, early 2003)
Now there are 25 pounds. Was this done via mechanical upgrade, high rpm increase, how?
I asked, but was told there is no upgrade. It was implied that actual thrust may have always been 25... will that be possible?
As mentioned, flawless...
Thanks
My 2300, blue cover was bough as a 23 pound engine with the simjec ecu (think late 2002, early 2003)
Now there are 25 pounds. Was this done via mechanical upgrade, high rpm increase, how?
I asked, but was told there is no upgrade. It was implied that actual thrust may have always been 25... will that be possible?
As mentioned, flawless...
Thanks
08-06-2006, 02:01 AM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
Hello Edgar and thanks.
The major difference is was a new (bigger) compressor /new diffuser / shaft and combustion chamber so internally a complete new engine that’s why we don’t upgrade = simply to expensive
Best Regards
Lars
The major difference is was a new (bigger) compressor /new diffuser / shaft and combustion chamber so internally a complete new engine that’s why we don’t upgrade = simply to expensive
Best Regards
Lars
08-06-2006, 12:44 PM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
Well, as the topic goes, I loved my Simjets.
After being a Simjet customer for the past 8 years now and buying 5 turbines from Lars (SimJet owner) I feel that I must share with the jet community a tale of - well lets say - a debatable service from them.
I have asked Lars if he has any objections to me publishing emails between himself and me on my website and he assures me that he has none.
Has anyone else had an experience like this with simjet ?
Click on the link here http://alan-gardner.com
After being a Simjet customer for the past 8 years now and buying 5 turbines from Lars (SimJet owner) I feel that I must share with the jet community a tale of - well lets say - a debatable service from them.
I have asked Lars if he has any objections to me publishing emails between himself and me on my website and he assures me that he has none.
Has anyone else had an experience like this with simjet ?
Click on the link here http://alan-gardner.com
08-06-2006, 07:46 PM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
warp6, What is the Difference in the Simjet 2200 and 2300 and 3000 they all have the same deminsions on the outside but what makes them diffrent. I have the 2200 and thought about upgrading to 2300 or evern the 3000 can I upgrade my 2200 to either?
Thanks,
Thanks,
08-08-2006, 02:29 PM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
I fly IC planes, gliders and helis at the moment and my next move is a turbine powered model, I was thinking about getting a Simjet but after reading crazy+plane=yes post I am having second thoughts, how could I tell if the unit I buy is new or one that has been made up from parts from other turbines that were damaged ?
Any advice guys most welcome.
Also looking at Wren and Jet Cat turbines any thoughts on these also welcome.
At the moment I am thinking about a Boomerang Intro ARF
to put the turbine in, whats your thoughts on this Aircraft ?
Thanks
R.R.
Any advice guys most welcome.
Also looking at Wren and Jet Cat turbines any thoughts on these also welcome.
At the moment I am thinking about a Boomerang Intro ARF
to put the turbine in, whats your thoughts on this Aircraft ?
Thanks
R.R.
08-08-2006, 07:09 PM
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Boomerang intro is a great selection using a 12-14 pound turbines. You can do P-80 size too, but take a little more effort and the fuel maybe an issue due to weight or limited run-time.
I would not hesitate on the Simjet. They are a reputable company. Also you may want to look at the artes bee for the intro.
Good luck
I would not hesitate on the Simjet. They are a reputable company. Also you may want to look at the artes bee for the intro.
Good luck
08-09-2006, 04:38 PM
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Thanks for the above clarification Lars.
The engines were only 6 years old and had only been run twice.
I had sold the engines recently as 2300's and the chap who bought the engines, repaired them even although Simjet had stated they couldn't be fixed.
When he tried to resell the engines, he recieved numerous complaints from modellers stating that they were not infact 2300's. If the engines being 2250 and 2300 are the same price, with minimum difference, then I can't understand why there was such an outcry when he tried to resell them.
I felt terrible about the situation! as I felt that I had sold him something that wasn't as described to me. He was an engineer to trade, and had to remove them from sale, but luckily his close friend agreed to buy them from him.
ORIGINAL: warp6
The 2250 had app 10,2 kg of thrust and the 2300 app 10,5 kg @ 122-123000 rpm / the new types still in produktion with blue front cover was named 2300-25 11,5 kg thrust BUT all af them deliver more then 12 kg to day.
Your engiens that i sold you many years ago was 2300 with gold cover and that have not changed even the frontcover have been painted red
Lars
The 2250 had app 10,2 kg of thrust and the 2300 app 10,5 kg @ 122-123000 rpm / the new types still in produktion with blue front cover was named 2300-25 11,5 kg thrust BUT all af them deliver more then 12 kg to day.
Your engiens that i sold you many years ago was 2300 with gold cover and that have not changed even the frontcover have been painted red
Lars
The engines were only 6 years old and had only been run twice.
I had sold the engines recently as 2300's and the chap who bought the engines, repaired them even although Simjet had stated they couldn't be fixed.
When he tried to resell the engines, he recieved numerous complaints from modellers stating that they were not infact 2300's. If the engines being 2250 and 2300 are the same price, with minimum difference, then I can't understand why there was such an outcry when he tried to resell them.
I felt terrible about the situation! as I felt that I had sold him something that wasn't as described to me. He was an engineer to trade, and had to remove them from sale, but luckily his close friend agreed to buy them from him.
08-10-2006, 03:54 AM
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This is getting old.
This is getting old.
Google seems to rate this as quite new.
Go to Google and type in : Simjet service
08-11-2006, 01:18 PM
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I own a Simjet my self and I expect full support for my engine
Thank you.
I own a Simjet my self and I expect full support for my engine
Thank you.
I could only suggest that you send it back through your local dealer. If Simjet tried to fob you off with a written off engine (when they clearly can be repaired after being damaged) I wouldn't think that ruining the dealers reputation would be in Simjets interest.
It may cost $50 - $100 Dollars more but well worth the ' Insurance ' of receiving a properly repaired engine without fuss.
Alan.
P.s. Did you check out the Google search ?
08-11-2006, 01:51 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: crazy+plane=yes
P.s. Did you check out the Google search ?
08-11-2006, 02:10 PM
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Allan, the thing that pi$$e$ me off is Simjet insisting on keping your old engines. Dud, they were going to clean them, "paint them" , and resell God knows for how much.
In any case, dude you sold your two engines for nothing and somebody else fixed it and is now enjoying them. Simjet shouldn't be liable for your mistake. Maybe you should ahve held on to the two engines, maybe someday you'll learn how to fix engines and you would have done it yourself. Im not biased, and probably feel a lot of sympathy for you, but in a court of law this would be dismissed right away. "Potential to be fixed" does not subtantiate anything. But.........deffinetely a matter of ethics.
Another question...........what does house building have to do with engineering? Why would a house builder know anything about heat treat, temper, of AL/Steel alloys???? I'm an Aero Engineer myself and deal with these materials all the time and I cannot tell if a turbine shaft is good or not without X-Ray difraction or a simple Dye-pen test. You may be putting way too much importance on what the "engineer" is saying. 200"F is enough to change properties on some Aluminums, so 300 C is most likely to do permanent damage. Another thing, 300C while operating and 300C while sitting is not the same.
I also have a Simjet, I'm 50-50 on customer service. The new local dealer in the US is great, but I had my share of bad taste waiting on a brand new SJ1200 18#.
Im happy with my old Simjet 1200, even though it will only produce 10.5 lbs on a "good day", far from the nominal 12 that I need and did expect. Not a very powerful engine. I'd guess a Dynamax and a good OS .91 would provide better performance on my Maverick.
I don't know if I would buy another Smjet again. Im kind of starting to like Artes.
Good luck with your claim, hope it works out. It is never good when your source of fun starts giving you headaches!!
David
In any case, dude you sold your two engines for nothing and somebody else fixed it and is now enjoying them. Simjet shouldn't be liable for your mistake. Maybe you should ahve held on to the two engines, maybe someday you'll learn how to fix engines and you would have done it yourself. Im not biased, and probably feel a lot of sympathy for you, but in a court of law this would be dismissed right away. "Potential to be fixed" does not subtantiate anything. But.........deffinetely a matter of ethics.
Another question...........what does house building have to do with engineering? Why would a house builder know anything about heat treat, temper, of AL/Steel alloys???? I'm an Aero Engineer myself and deal with these materials all the time and I cannot tell if a turbine shaft is good or not without X-Ray difraction or a simple Dye-pen test. You may be putting way too much importance on what the "engineer" is saying. 200"F is enough to change properties on some Aluminums, so 300 C is most likely to do permanent damage. Another thing, 300C while operating and 300C while sitting is not the same.
I also have a Simjet, I'm 50-50 on customer service. The new local dealer in the US is great, but I had my share of bad taste waiting on a brand new SJ1200 18#.
Im happy with my old Simjet 1200, even though it will only produce 10.5 lbs on a "good day", far from the nominal 12 that I need and did expect. Not a very powerful engine. I'd guess a Dynamax and a good OS .91 would provide better performance on my Maverick.
I don't know if I would buy another Smjet again. Im kind of starting to like Artes.
Good luck with your claim, hope it works out. It is never good when your source of fun starts giving you headaches!!
David
08-12-2006, 05:02 AM
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Allan, the thing that pi$$e$ me off is Simjet insisting on keping your old engines. Dud, they were going to clean them, "paint them" , and resell God knows for how much.
Allan, the thing that pi$$e$ me off is Simjet insisting on keping your old engines. Dud, they were going to clean them, "paint them" , and resell God knows for how much.
Another question...........what does house building have to do with engineering? Why would a house builder know anything about heat treat, temper, of AL/Steel alloys????
I don't know if I would buy another Smjet again.
Good luck with your claim, hope it works out. It is never good when your source of fun starts giving you headaches!!
Thanks for your reply.
Alan.
08-12-2006, 04:04 PM
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Dear Alan
First of all as I did tell you there no way I would use any old parts I any turbine secondly there are NO parts at all from a 6 year old engine that will fit in any of our preset types.
I have NEVER EVER used parts from damaged engines I don’t know where that sick idea did come from.
We do have some homebuilders visiting us how do buy used parts for there projects without warranty and fully at there one risk.
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Another question...........what does house building have to do with engineering? Why would a house builder know anything about heat treat, temper, of AL/Steel alloys???? I'm an Aero Engineer myself and deal with these materials all the time and I cannot tell if a turbine shaft is good or not without X-Ray difraction or a simple Dye-pen test. You may be putting way too much importance on what the "engineer" is saying. 200"F is enough to change properties on some Aluminums, so 300 C is most likely to do permanent damage. Another thing, 300C while operating and 300C while sitting is not the same.
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That’s why I did not want to do the repair as I already told you,
COPY of ALAN
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Lars conned me.
He said that he would sell me a new turbine insisting that he kept the 2 damaged ones.
Q. Was he going to recondition them and sell them on ?
That would be a tidy profit for Simjet to get more money out of me and repair the 2 damaged turbines and sell them both
“
Why in the name of god should I spend all the time and parts on 6 years old engines it would be cheaper and save a lot of time to build a new one, And as a already said there is not one single part the fit in the present turbines AT ALL.
YOU ARE simply assuming something that would never been even remotely possible.
If you don’t believe me I am sure we can borrow a 6 year old 2300 I will let you have a brand new 2300 in our work shop , if you can fit just one part exept nut bolts and bearings from old the new one and make it work I will pay your flight / hotel and a good dinner@ at 3 star Michelin restaurant.
So Alan thanks for your last mail and form my side we are still at speaking terms you have not don me any harm at all I am still happy and I am in my full right to say no to a repair I don’t feel to be safe to conduct.
And just a information it been tried before, if anyone try to blackmail me or threaten with things like “ I will go on the RCU and tell everyone etc. ect.OR you newest one “I had no option but to go to the UK RCU “ I wont work I WILL go in reverse be coarse I know I always don my best to help everyone.
I conned you ?? oomy the only guy this have cost money is me I did pay the shipment back to you at no cost for you and you got 450ÂŁ for the engines and I still think that was a fair price considering the condition they was in.
And sorry Alan This was the last comment from me in this case but please keep up your personal paranoid vendetta against me if it makes you feel better but I will not spend more time on it.
First of all as I did tell you there no way I would use any old parts I any turbine secondly there are NO parts at all from a 6 year old engine that will fit in any of our preset types.
I have NEVER EVER used parts from damaged engines I don’t know where that sick idea did come from.
We do have some homebuilders visiting us how do buy used parts for there projects without warranty and fully at there one risk.
Next copy from falconwings
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Another question...........what does house building have to do with engineering? Why would a house builder know anything about heat treat, temper, of AL/Steel alloys???? I'm an Aero Engineer myself and deal with these materials all the time and I cannot tell if a turbine shaft is good or not without X-Ray difraction or a simple Dye-pen test. You may be putting way too much importance on what the "engineer" is saying. 200"F is enough to change properties on some Aluminums, so 300 C is most likely to do permanent damage. Another thing, 300C while operating and 300C while sitting is not the same.
“
That’s why I did not want to do the repair as I already told you,
COPY of ALAN
“
Lars conned me.
He said that he would sell me a new turbine insisting that he kept the 2 damaged ones.
Q. Was he going to recondition them and sell them on ?
That would be a tidy profit for Simjet to get more money out of me and repair the 2 damaged turbines and sell them both
“
Why in the name of god should I spend all the time and parts on 6 years old engines it would be cheaper and save a lot of time to build a new one, And as a already said there is not one single part the fit in the present turbines AT ALL.
YOU ARE simply assuming something that would never been even remotely possible.
If you don’t believe me I am sure we can borrow a 6 year old 2300 I will let you have a brand new 2300 in our work shop , if you can fit just one part exept nut bolts and bearings from old the new one and make it work I will pay your flight / hotel and a good dinner@ at 3 star Michelin restaurant.
So Alan thanks for your last mail and form my side we are still at speaking terms you have not don me any harm at all I am still happy and I am in my full right to say no to a repair I don’t feel to be safe to conduct.
And just a information it been tried before, if anyone try to blackmail me or threaten with things like “ I will go on the RCU and tell everyone etc. ect.OR you newest one “I had no option but to go to the UK RCU “ I wont work I WILL go in reverse be coarse I know I always don my best to help everyone.
I conned you ?? oomy the only guy this have cost money is me I did pay the shipment back to you at no cost for you and you got 450ÂŁ for the engines and I still think that was a fair price considering the condition they was in.
And sorry Alan This was the last comment from me in this case but please keep up your personal paranoid vendetta against me if it makes you feel better but I will not spend more time on it.
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Dear Alan
First of all as I did tell you there no way I would use any old parts I any turbine secondly there are NO parts at all from a 6 year old engine that will fit in any of our preset types.
I have NEVER EVER used parts from damaged engines I don’t know where that sick idea did come from.
We do have some homebuilders visiting us how do buy used parts for there projects without warranty and fully at there one risk.
Next copy from falconwings
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Another question...........what does house building have to do with engineering? Why would a house builder know anything about heat treat, temper, of AL/Steel alloys???? I'm an Aero Engineer myself and deal with these materials all the time and I cannot tell if a turbine shaft is good or not without X-Ray difraction or a simple Dye-pen test. You may be putting way too much importance on what the "engineer" is saying. 200"F is enough to change properties on some Aluminums, so 300 C is most likely to do permanent damage. Another thing, 300C while operating and 300C while sitting is not the same.
“
That’s why I did not want to do the repair as I already told you,
COPY of ALAN
“
Lars conned me.
He said that he would sell me a new turbine insisting that he kept the 2 damaged ones.
Q. Was he going to recondition them and sell them on ?
That would be a tidy profit for Simjet to get more money out of me and repair the 2 damaged turbines and sell them both
“
Why in the name of god should I spend all the time and parts on 6 years old engines it would be cheaper and save a lot of time to build a new one, And as a already said there is not one single part the fit in the present turbines AT ALL.
YOU ARE simply assuming something that would never been even remotely possible.
If you don’t believe me I am sure we can borrow a 6 year old 2300 I will let you have a brand new 2300 in our work shop , if you can fit just one part exept nut bolts and bearings from old the new one and make it work I will pay your flight / hotel and a good dinner@ at 3 star Michelin restaurant.
So Alan thanks for your last mail and form my side we are still at speaking terms you have not don me any harm at all I am still happy and I am in my full right to say no to a repair I don’t feel to be safe to conduct.
And just a information it been tried before, if anyone try to blackmail me or threaten with things like “ I will go on the RCU and tell everyone etc. ect.OR you newest one “I had no option but to go to the UK RCU “ I wont work I WILL go in reverse be coarse I know I always don my best to help everyone.
I conned you ?? oomy the only guy this have cost money is me I did pay the shipment back to you at no cost for you and you got 450ÂŁ for the engines and I still think that was a fair price considering the condition they was in.
And sorry Alan This was the last comment from me in this case but please keep up your personal paranoid vendetta against me if it makes you feel better but I will not spend more time on it.
Dear Alan
First of all as I did tell you there no way I would use any old parts I any turbine secondly there are NO parts at all from a 6 year old engine that will fit in any of our preset types.
I have NEVER EVER used parts from damaged engines I don’t know where that sick idea did come from.
We do have some homebuilders visiting us how do buy used parts for there projects without warranty and fully at there one risk.
Next copy from falconwings
“
Another question...........what does house building have to do with engineering? Why would a house builder know anything about heat treat, temper, of AL/Steel alloys???? I'm an Aero Engineer myself and deal with these materials all the time and I cannot tell if a turbine shaft is good or not without X-Ray difraction or a simple Dye-pen test. You may be putting way too much importance on what the "engineer" is saying. 200"F is enough to change properties on some Aluminums, so 300 C is most likely to do permanent damage. Another thing, 300C while operating and 300C while sitting is not the same.
“
That’s why I did not want to do the repair as I already told you,
COPY of ALAN
“
Lars conned me.
He said that he would sell me a new turbine insisting that he kept the 2 damaged ones.
Q. Was he going to recondition them and sell them on ?
That would be a tidy profit for Simjet to get more money out of me and repair the 2 damaged turbines and sell them both
“
Why in the name of god should I spend all the time and parts on 6 years old engines it would be cheaper and save a lot of time to build a new one, And as a already said there is not one single part the fit in the present turbines AT ALL.
YOU ARE simply assuming something that would never been even remotely possible.
If you don’t believe me I am sure we can borrow a 6 year old 2300 I will let you have a brand new 2300 in our work shop , if you can fit just one part exept nut bolts and bearings from old the new one and make it work I will pay your flight / hotel and a good dinner@ at 3 star Michelin restaurant.
So Alan thanks for your last mail and form my side we are still at speaking terms you have not don me any harm at all I am still happy and I am in my full right to say no to a repair I don’t feel to be safe to conduct.
And just a information it been tried before, if anyone try to blackmail me or threaten with things like “ I will go on the RCU and tell everyone etc. ect.OR you newest one “I had no option but to go to the UK RCU “ I wont work I WILL go in reverse be coarse I know I always don my best to help everyone.
I conned you ?? oomy the only guy this have cost money is me I did pay the shipment back to you at no cost for you and you got 450ÂŁ for the engines and I still think that was a fair price considering the condition they was in.
And sorry Alan This was the last comment from me in this case but please keep up your personal paranoid vendetta against me if it makes you feel better but I will not spend more time on it.
However, I did pick up on a few words directed at me being " Sick" and " Paranoid "
I take great offence to this.
Alan.
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Dear Lars, can you answer a few simple questions please.
Your quote :
I have NEVER EVER used parts from damaged engines I don’t know where that sick idea did come from.
Your email quote :
Well sorry but there not much we can use but maybe a EGV for a repair job and a turbine wheel
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Your quote :
We do have some homebuilders visiting us how do buy used parts for there projects without warranty and fully at there one risk.
So, Lars - you do sell used turbine parts ?
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My quote :.
He (Lars) said that he would sell me a new turbine insisting that he kept the 2 damaged ones.
This is correct Lars yes ?
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Your quote :
YOU ARE simply assuming something that would never been even remotely possible.
Then why did you say this Lars ? :
it will take app 4 hours + vat and shipping.
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Your quote :
I conned you ?? oomy the only guy this have cost money is me I did pay the shipment back to you at no cost for you
Did you invoice me for the shipping ?
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Lars, did you even open the turbines ?
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As a customer of Simjet, I have only given my personal view on Simjet customer support.
The manufacturers response is to call the customer “sick” and “paranoid”.
Your quote :
I have NEVER EVER used parts from damaged engines I don’t know where that sick idea did come from.
Your email quote :
Well sorry but there not much we can use but maybe a EGV for a repair job and a turbine wheel
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Your quote :
We do have some homebuilders visiting us how do buy used parts for there projects without warranty and fully at there one risk.
So, Lars - you do sell used turbine parts ?
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My quote :.
He (Lars) said that he would sell me a new turbine insisting that he kept the 2 damaged ones.
This is correct Lars yes ?
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Your quote :
YOU ARE simply assuming something that would never been even remotely possible.
Then why did you say this Lars ? :
it will take app 4 hours + vat and shipping.
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Your quote :
I conned you ?? oomy the only guy this have cost money is me I did pay the shipment back to you at no cost for you
Did you invoice me for the shipping ?
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Lars, did you even open the turbines ?
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As a customer of Simjet, I have only given my personal view on Simjet customer support.
The manufacturers response is to call the customer “sick” and “paranoid”.
08-13-2006, 12:07 PM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
What form of NDT was conducted by the 'home builder' to confirm the integrity of the components?
How does he know that there is no material damage to the parts?
I agree that there is some disparity from what Lars appears to have said but it doesn't alter the fact that the turbines MAY have been beyond economical repair. I can't see any reason why Simjet would not repair a damaged engine if it was worthwhile, what would they gain by refusing to do this? I am sure anything could be repaired but would it have been worth it? Would it have cost more in parts and labour than a new engine?
Maybe I am missing something here.
How does he know that there is no material damage to the parts?
I agree that there is some disparity from what Lars appears to have said but it doesn't alter the fact that the turbines MAY have been beyond economical repair. I can't see any reason why Simjet would not repair a damaged engine if it was worthwhile, what would they gain by refusing to do this? I am sure anything could be repaired but would it have been worth it? Would it have cost more in parts and labour than a new engine?
Maybe I am missing something here.
08-13-2006, 12:24 PM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
Hi There,
Firstly, they no longer belong to me.
What form of NDT was conducted by the 'home builder' to confirm the integrity of the components? I have no idea, sorry.
How does he know that there is no material damage to the parts? Again, I have no idea, but the engine is now operational.
I can't see any reason why Simjet would not repair a damaged engine if it was worthwhile, what would they gain by refusing to do this?
My two damaged engines perhaps, and a sale of a new one. (Why did they want to keep those turbines ?)
Maybe I am missing something here.
I can only answer that with the question as to why they didn't even open them to ascertain the damage.
Alan.
08-13-2006, 12:26 PM
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What form of NDT was conducted by the 'home builder' to confirm the integrity of the components?
What form of NDT was conducted by the 'home builder' to confirm the integrity of the components?
08-13-2006, 01:46 PM
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RE: Simjet owners, how do you like your turbine?
Please do not take my comments personally, I am just saying it how I see it.
Your main complaint seems to be that the engine was not opened up for inspection. I am simply suggesting that the manufacturer may have a detailed knowledge of his engines and knowing the exact materials and their properties, and combined with the circumstances of the incident MAY be enough for them to be sure that the components have suffered internal damage without looking at them or conducting NDT.
An independant builder (whether a homebuilder or a professional) may not have the same intricate knowledge of that particular engine and, although the components that have been re-used may look ok they may have suffered internal damage that has not been identified. This may be unfair as I don't know the individual involved in the rebuild, but why do you trust his opinion more than Lars?
On a different tack, I read your car analogy on another forum and I will add another view. If you crash your car and the chassis is badly twisted would you expect the repairer to check if the engine was OK? An expert may not bother, and simply write the car off, as they will know that it would cost more to repair the car than buy a brand new one. This does not mean that subsequently the engine will not be resold at a scrap yard in working condition.
This kind of thing also happens in full size aviation following major damage where the aircraft (specifically the tooling) is obsolete. The manufacturer often offers a deal for a new aircraft as the cost of obtaining replacement parts is prohibitive.
I need to add that I am not a Simjet customer.
Your main complaint seems to be that the engine was not opened up for inspection. I am simply suggesting that the manufacturer may have a detailed knowledge of his engines and knowing the exact materials and their properties, and combined with the circumstances of the incident MAY be enough for them to be sure that the components have suffered internal damage without looking at them or conducting NDT.
An independant builder (whether a homebuilder or a professional) may not have the same intricate knowledge of that particular engine and, although the components that have been re-used may look ok they may have suffered internal damage that has not been identified. This may be unfair as I don't know the individual involved in the rebuild, but why do you trust his opinion more than Lars?
On a different tack, I read your car analogy on another forum and I will add another view. If you crash your car and the chassis is badly twisted would you expect the repairer to check if the engine was OK? An expert may not bother, and simply write the car off, as they will know that it would cost more to repair the car than buy a brand new one. This does not mean that subsequently the engine will not be resold at a scrap yard in working condition.
This kind of thing also happens in full size aviation following major damage where the aircraft (specifically the tooling) is obsolete. The manufacturer often offers a deal for a new aircraft as the cost of obtaining replacement parts is prohibitive.
I need to add that I am not a Simjet customer.