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Old 05-07-2007 | 02:36 PM
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I have mounted a BVM UAT in a MiG15, inclined and facing forward as per the instructions, however can the tank be mounted so the fill and tank feed brass nipples are under under the main cap (down), or MUST they be above (up)?

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Old 05-07-2007 | 02:55 PM
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above mate! this wouldn't happen to be Ali's Mig 15 would it!?!?
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Old 05-07-2007 | 03:18 PM
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Yep, that obvious!

Reading the fitting instructions it is suggested that the tank is set to a 20 degree incline and the brass nipples are facing up, but the wording is not 100%, have slightly less space to play with on the top set up but enough to achieve the desired result.

When I looked at other threads regarding this, and the picture you posted for that matter the tank is mounted vertically, not at the 20 degree incline, so my interpretation lead me to thinking it may not be that critical.

Will post some updates tomorrow as I know Al is back from Top Gun.

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If you place the nipples at the top it allows you to remove ALL the air bubbles from the system when filling it up. [8D]
Old 05-07-2007 | 03:24 PM
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Fitttings have to be on top otherwise air will be trapped in the UAT. Simple physics
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I was not planning on mounting the tank with the fittings facing down guys, I realise with minimal thought that air rises, the question was wether the brass fill and tank feed nipples could be on the underside of the main cap (when mounted at 20 degree and facing up) so the air was trapped in the space above the main cap and not sucked into the main fuel feed. There are installations where the UAT is mounted dead vertical, in this position it wont make any difference which way the nipples are facing, so I had to ask if it matters when inclined at 20 degrees.

I could also ask why the UAT can be mounted dead vertical when the instructions say at around 20 degrees?
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I was not planning on mounting the tank with the fittings facing down guys, I realise with minimal thought that air rises, the question was wether the brass fill and tank feed nipples could be on the underside of the main cap (when mounted at 20 degree and facing up) so the air was trapped in the space above the main cap and not sucked into the main fuel feed. There are installations where the UAT is mounted dead vertical, in this position it wont make any difference which way the nipples are facing, so I had to ask if it matters when inclined at 20 degrees.

I could also ask why the UAT can be mounted dead vertical when the instructions say at around 20 degrees?
I didn't mean to say that you weren't aware of physics. I have mine mounted at about 5-10 degrees, but I think if it's mounted at any angle OTHER than vertical the brass nipples for filling and vent SHOULD be at the highest point.

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ORIGINAL: marc s
I could also ask why the UAT can be mounted dead vertical when the instructions say at around 20 degrees?
Marc - on one of my jets I have the UAT mounted vertical rather than tilted - but when I refuel the aircraft I can lift the nose slightly to tilt the UAT such that any small air bubble in the tank still heads out the vent nipple during filling.

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ORIGINAL: marc s

the question was wether the brass fill and tank feed nipples could be on the underside of the main cap (when mounted at 20 degree and facing up) .....
yes they need to be above the fill cap when tilted, otherwise more air is trapped at the top then if mounted in a vertical position.

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ORIGINAL: marc s

I have mounted a BVM UAT in a MiG15, inclined and facing forward as per the instructions, however can the tank be mounted so the fill and tank feed brass nipples are under under the main cap (down), or MUST they be above (up)?

Attached is a pic of the proposed installation with the nipples in the down position.
it does not matter how it is mounted as long you get the air out it is fine.

in your case you need to have the plane inverted to refuel it :-)
anyway just mount it vertical or horizontal it does not matter , like gordon says tilt the nose slightly to get the air out while refueling..
Old 05-08-2007 | 02:24 AM
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Guys, cheers for the comments, having the nipples on the top is no problem with the set-up I have made, all it means is I have slightly less room to work with than if they were in the position shown (for reference only in the picture) - but hey who needs room, especially in the MiG

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