Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
07-26-2010, 05:59 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Joe
I went through a Supermarket doing that and got wonderful service at the till, they thought I was Customs and Excise.
The one I found was a Lenor Washing softner that fitted perfectly, 2L and just a small amount of heating to get it over the main wing tube.
Mike
I went through a Supermarket doing that and got wonderful service at the till, they thought I was Customs and Excise.
The one I found was a Lenor Washing softner that fitted perfectly, 2L and just a small amount of heating to get it over the main wing tube.
Mike
07-26-2010, 11:24 PM
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07-26-2010, 11:55 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Hello guys!
I haven't posted in a while but its because I've been very busy.
The plane is about 99% done...only a few tweaks of the programing on the radio and some re-programing of the turbine ECU (it was not starting right on the airframe) and I will be ready for the maiden.
Here are some pics of the progress...(and one of the pilot...lol)
thanks to all that provided tips and help.
Best regards,
Chris
I haven't posted in a while but its because I've been very busy.
The plane is about 99% done...only a few tweaks of the programing on the radio and some re-programing of the turbine ECU (it was not starting right on the airframe) and I will be ready for the maiden.
Here are some pics of the progress...(and one of the pilot...lol)
thanks to all that provided tips and help.
Best regards,
Chris
07-27-2010, 02:11 AM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
My tank setup 
Basic tank (1.9L juice bottle)
5 minutes on a lathe and I have the required parts. The inner diameter is threaded 1/8npt in order to accept the 6mm Festo fittings. Outside is threaded M16 for the nut. The rubber is from a stopper I had lying around.
Assembled. I also made a pickup from a coupler and an airtool filter.
Tank fully stopped
Tightening the nut compresses the rubber and locks it in place. No more leaks anywhere!
Basic tank (1.9L juice bottle)
5 minutes on a lathe and I have the required parts. The inner diameter is threaded 1/8npt in order to accept the 6mm Festo fittings. Outside is threaded M16 for the nut. The rubber is from a stopper I had lying around.
Assembled. I also made a pickup from a coupler and an airtool filter.
Tank fully stopped
Tightening the nut compresses the rubber and locks it in place. No more leaks anywhere!
07-31-2010, 03:26 AM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Hi guys
Quick question
How easy does the falcon 120 fly compared to a boomerang nano?
Is it as easy or easier?
Cheers
George
Quick question
How easy does the falcon 120 fly compared to a boomerang nano?
Is it as easy or easier?
Cheers
George
08-03-2010, 02:40 AM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Hi Chris
I am 90% through in completing a Falcon 120 conversion (Wren54)Do you have any details or photographs of the steerring mechanism for the nose gear.I know the principal of connecting the two wires to the steering arm but what happens when the gear retracts and what happens to the wires.Any help or advice would be appreciated
KR
Nigel
I am 90% through in completing a Falcon 120 conversion (Wren54)Do you have any details or photographs of the steerring mechanism for the nose gear.I know the principal of connecting the two wires to the steering arm but what happens when the gear retracts and what happens to the wires.Any help or advice would be appreciated
KR
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08-03-2010, 04:09 AM
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A cable tie shrink wrapped to the wires bent in a curve at the servo end will keep the wires apart when the UC retracts, just make sure the cable tie is clear of the retracted leg.
Mike
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08-03-2010, 08:12 AM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Hello,
I just leave them be. When the gear retracts the cables get slack but its not enough for it to get caught on anything. I drilled up at an angle right through the wood formers/gear mounts from where the cables should be when the gear is retracted towards the position of the servo and I haven't had any issues. I will see if I can snap some pics tonight.
Also, IT FLEW!!!!
I put in my first two flights on Sunday at an awesome location. I will add pics and video soon. I can't believe how uneventful that was and how nice this plane flies and lands.
Thanks to all for all the help and tips.
Best regards,
Chris
I just leave them be. When the gear retracts the cables get slack but its not enough for it to get caught on anything. I drilled up at an angle right through the wood formers/gear mounts from where the cables should be when the gear is retracted towards the position of the servo and I haven't had any issues. I will see if I can snap some pics tonight.
Also, IT FLEW!!!!
I put in my first two flights on Sunday at an awesome location. I will add pics and video soon. I can't believe how uneventful that was and how nice this plane flies and lands.
Thanks to all for all the help and tips.
Best regards,
Chris
08-03-2010, 12:06 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
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A cable tie shrink wrapped to the wires bent in a curve at the servo end will keep the wires apart when the UC retracts, just make sure the cable tie is clear of the retracted leg.
Mike
A cable tie shrink wrapped to the wires bent in a curve at the servo end will keep the wires apart when the UC retracts, just make sure the cable tie is clear of the retracted leg.
Mike
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08-06-2010, 08:51 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Hi guys
What would be the biggest manufactured tank that will fit in the Falcon?
Will be using Kingtech K80 so will want to get as much fuel on board as I can
Thanks
George
What would be the biggest manufactured tank that will fit in the Falcon?
Will be using Kingtech K80 so will want to get as much fuel on board as I can
Thanks
George
08-06-2010, 09:04 PM
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What would be the biggest manufactured tank that will fit in the Falcon?
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=660810
08-10-2010, 12:29 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Well, it looks like the Falcon has turned out to be a good daily flyer and a great first turbine jet as I have been following this thread since it first started. There were many who said it would never work but reviewing the forum it appears many have had great success. I will probably start a Falcon Project over the winter and I am looking for your advice minus 145 pages of this and that. My questions are as follows: Keep in mind I plan on using the Kingtech k-80
*Please give me 5-10 modifications that need to be done to the Falcon to make it a safe turbine flyer.
*What retracts/landing gear have been sucessfull? Would these work?
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7998&Product_Name=Air_Operated_Retract_Kit___w/spring_2-WayValve_(model:2204)
*Any links to good fuel tanks that fit in the Falcon?
*One or two servos for the elevator?
*How is the durability of the Falcon as a turbine jet?
Any help or advice on the Falcon would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!!!
*Please give me 5-10 modifications that need to be done to the Falcon to make it a safe turbine flyer.
*What retracts/landing gear have been sucessfull? Would these work?
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7998&Product_Name=Air_Operated_Retract_Kit___w/spring_2-WayValve_(model:2204)
*Any links to good fuel tanks that fit in the Falcon?
*One or two servos for the elevator?
*How is the durability of the Falcon as a turbine jet?
Any help or advice on the Falcon would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!!!
08-10-2010, 05:34 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Mike
If as you say you have been following this thread since it started you have all the answers already, why do you need us to tell you?
Mike
If as you say you have been following this thread since it started you have all the answers already, why do you need us to tell you?
Mike
08-10-2010, 08:27 PM
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Well, it looks like the Falcon has turned out to be a good daily flyer and a great first turbine jet as I have been following this thread since it first started. There were many who said it would never work but reviewing the forum it appears many have had great success. I will probably start a Falcon Project over the winter and I am looking for your advice minus 145 pages of this and that. My questions are as follows: Keep in mind I plan on using the Kingtech k-80
*Please give me 5-10 modifications that need to be done to the Falcon to make it a safe turbine flyer.
this same question was answered a few pages ago, just have a look back and see.
*What retracts/landing gear have been sucessfull? Would these work?
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7998&Product_Name=Air_Operated_Retract_Kit___w/spring_2-WayValve_(model:2204)
I don't think there has been many, if any who have tried these retracts. trust me, i spent a lot of time trying to find a cost effective solution to the landing gear issues, and seeing as your going to need brakes, have a look at the all included dreamworks/digitech options. they sound like a lot to start out with, but you'll end up having to spend close to that anyway if you buy from different sources and the shipping will make up the difference.
*Any links to good fuel tanks that fit in the Falcon?
Heaps of discussions throughout the whole thread regarding tanks. I use a 2.4lt juice bottle, there is a guy here on RCU who makes a custom tank for the falcon120, i guess more reading for you...
*One or two servos for the elevator?
I used one, most of the Falcon120 i saw at a resent jet meet used two, either way both work fine if you set them up right.
*How is the durability of the Falcon as a turbine jet?
how long is a piece of string? there a guys posting that they have had in the 100's of flights with theirs, and others that only got a few[
], it always depends on your piloting skills, redundancy of your setup etc....
Any help or advice on the Falcon would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!!!
Well, it looks like the Falcon has turned out to be a good daily flyer and a great first turbine jet as I have been following this thread since it first started. There were many who said it would never work but reviewing the forum it appears many have had great success. I will probably start a Falcon Project over the winter and I am looking for your advice minus 145 pages of this and that. My questions are as follows: Keep in mind I plan on using the Kingtech k-80
*Please give me 5-10 modifications that need to be done to the Falcon to make it a safe turbine flyer.
this same question was answered a few pages ago, just have a look back and see.
*What retracts/landing gear have been sucessfull? Would these work?
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7998&Product_Name=Air_Operated_Retract_Kit___w/spring_2-WayValve_(model:2204)
I don't think there has been many, if any who have tried these retracts. trust me, i spent a lot of time trying to find a cost effective solution to the landing gear issues, and seeing as your going to need brakes, have a look at the all included dreamworks/digitech options. they sound like a lot to start out with, but you'll end up having to spend close to that anyway if you buy from different sources and the shipping will make up the difference.
*Any links to good fuel tanks that fit in the Falcon?
Heaps of discussions throughout the whole thread regarding tanks. I use a 2.4lt juice bottle, there is a guy here on RCU who makes a custom tank for the falcon120, i guess more reading for you...
*One or two servos for the elevator?
I used one, most of the Falcon120 i saw at a resent jet meet used two, either way both work fine if you set them up right.
*How is the durability of the Falcon as a turbine jet?
how long is a piece of string? there a guys posting that they have had in the 100's of flights with theirs, and others that only got a few[
], it always depends on your piloting skills, redundancy of your setup etc....Any help or advice on the Falcon would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!!!
08-10-2010, 08:51 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Ticketec,
Thank you for the useful info. I was trying to get a better idea of what really is needed and what is not. There is so much info in this forum it's difficult to see what is necessary.
I think my biggest concern is the durability without re-building the whole airframe. After all people buy the Falcon because it is cheap and they are trying to get into jets.
Thanks Again,
Thank you for the useful info. I was trying to get a better idea of what really is needed and what is not. There is so much info in this forum it's difficult to see what is necessary.
I think my biggest concern is the durability without re-building the whole airframe. After all people buy the Falcon because it is cheap and they are trying to get into jets.
Thanks Again,
08-10-2010, 11:10 PM
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Ticketec,
Thank you for the useful info. I was trying to get a better idea of what really is needed and what is not. There is so much info in this forum it's difficult to see what is necessary.
I think my biggest concern is the durability without re-building the whole airframe. After all people buy the Falcon because it is cheap and they are trying to get into jets.
Thanks Again,
Ticketec,
Thank you for the useful info. I was trying to get a better idea of what really is needed and what is not. There is so much info in this forum it's difficult to see what is necessary.
I think my biggest concern is the durability without re-building the whole airframe. After all people buy the Falcon because it is cheap and they are trying to get into jets.
Thanks Again,
Yeah no probs,
I did exactly the same thing. I sat myself down for 2 days to read the whole thread and with all the info in here you sometimes forget what you were looking for.
I used about 3/4oz of Zap into each wing panel onto all the joints i could reach. i would recommend you do this after cutting the aileron and flap servo covering off so you can get right out to the tips with the CA.
Thanks
dave
08-11-2010, 03:39 AM
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Made my own with west resin and it holds 3 litres.
Alan
Made my own with west resin and it holds 3 litres.
Alan
How do you get it in? Does it go in through the cockpit or did you cut an enlarged opening in the fuselage bottom for access?
How did you go about it? Did you make a plug and mould it in two parts, then join? Where did you get the fittings?
I was thinking maybe a blue foam plug, covered with cling film or polythene, mould a front half, mould a back half and glass together. I am aiming for 2 litres.
I have never done it so I don't know the pitfalls. Any advice?
08-11-2010, 01:12 PM
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A 2L Lenor fabric conditioner bottle fits over the wing tube with a bit of heat applied, force it into position and then just blow your heat gun gentle down the bottle opening it forms itself into a perfect shape, I had a pic somewhere I will see if I can dig it out.
Mike
A 2L Lenor fabric conditioner bottle fits over the wing tube with a bit of heat applied, force it into position and then just blow your heat gun gentle down the bottle opening it forms itself into a perfect shape, I had a pic somewhere I will see if I can dig it out.
Mike
08-11-2010, 04:06 PM
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
Anyone know where you can get a canopy for one of these in UK, tried colchester out of stock and CCRC models recon they have a hard enough job getting the kits!
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RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet
How do you guys go about checking the C/G on the model? I have checked mine and I think it's about 12 1/2 inches from the wing LE.