xurifle06

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Anyone Using this oil in Jet Cat turbines? Just bought my first turbine and it seems like this oil may be the way to go. thanks

Rich

f106jax

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Rich,

I have used DTE Light in my P-120 at the end of last years flying season. About 35 flights at 5% mixture. Works great.

Mike

Pyolet

If you're having trouble finding Mobil DTE, see if your local Chevron supplier has their ISO VG32 equivalent product "GST 32". It is similarly priced ($58/5 gal here), non-carcinogenic, doesn't turn brown in the sun, with no foul smell/eye burn when running.

http://www.idahomachinery.com/PDF%20...0Reference.pdf

I've used 5% GST 32 exclusively in all my turbines for the past 2 years in Artes Rhino, Eagle, Falcon PST 600R, 1300R and JetCat Titan, P-60 with not one single issue.

Woody.

TREADSTONE

Mobil DTE light was never formulated to run in Gas turbines.

Synthetic

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Wren turbines has officially ok'd Mobile DTE Light for use in their engines. It works great.

smokin-gun

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none of the other turbine oils were meant to be burnt and mixed with gas period- dte lite works great , 2 years and counting.

TREADSTONE

Is Mobil DTE light meant to be mixed/burnt with AVTUR?

s3nfo

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23699 was never formulated to be run in total loss gas turbines either.........

smokin-gun

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as i said none of the turbine oils were meant to be mixed with fuel and burnt. that is why there is coaking and clogging in the combustion chambers .
i have found that the dte lite burns very clean.
facts are facts and each can do as they want , but i will burn the cleanest and less toxic oils that are good for me and my turbines!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Synthetic

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I know if I accidentally get DTE Light on my hands it doesn't bother me like I had gotten "the other stuff" on my hands. Of course I wash it off as quickly as I can anyway.

Don

Synthetic

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Rich,
There is at least one very good thread here at RCU dealing with Mobile DTE Light. If you do a search on DTE I bet it'll pop up for you and most likely there are several pilots that replied to that thread that fly with Jet Cat turbines.

Don

Synthetic

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Rich,
Here is one of the DTE threads..


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_64...tm.htm#6419215

Don

invertmast

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yall are gonna kill me, but i get 2380 at cost which i believe we get for $4.90 a quart

Synthetic

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I get DTE Light for $3.00 a quart with no discount.

smokin-gun

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and it is not killin ya when you breath and touch it !

Ed

Where ? ? ?[]

Synthetic

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Jim,
I buy it for $60.00 for five gallons at Saco Petroleum.
Don

GoeKeli

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Thanks Woody, I have used 10 gallons of DTE light through a Wren Supersport with no problems. Shell has an equivalent and exact crossover product called Shell 32.

Joe

Vincent

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Joe,
is this the shell stuff you are using ??


SHELL VITREA® OILS

Excellent non-additive machine and bearing oils

Product Description

Shell Vitrea Oils are highly refined, high viscosity index, straight mineral oils that give excellent lubricating performance where rust, oxidation and/or high bearing and gear loading are not problems. Vitrea Oils have high viscosity indexes, typically from 90 to 100. They are available in nine ISO viscosity Grades from 13 to 460.

Applications

• often used as an aviation smoke oil • light duty hydraulic systems • plain and anti-friction bearings • spur, helical and bevel gears operating under moderate loads • machine oil equipment

Features/Benefits

• good water separation • very good oxidation resistance


Shell Vitrea 13 - 5 Gallon Pail 658105/6556505203$39.99

Pyolet

Vincent, according to the cross reference table in my previous post, "Shell Tellus S 32" is the DTE Light equivalent.

http://www.idahomachinery.com/PDF%20...0Reference.pdf

Woody.

TREADSTONE

Glow fuel containing TOXIC methanol is far, far worse than any turbine fuel or oil. Never touched that stuff have you ?

Turbine fuel or oil is not in the TOXIC class

Synthetic

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[Turbine fuel or oil is not in the TOXIC class]

Are you sure of that? As I remember reading some earlier posts about the turbine oil and its fumes it was not very friendly to us humans.

Don

s3nfo

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Treadstone,

You and I have had this discussion before back in middle of '06. You were wrong then and you're wrong now AND you're putting out information that may lead people to make bad decisions.

Not only wrong, but exceedingly, possibly dangerously wrong!
Methanol IS toxic , but you have to drink a lot of the stuff (4 oz at one sitting) to have any permanent effect, and so far I've never seen anybody drink glow fuel . Organophosphates on the other hand are toxic by mere exposure to the burned by products

Health and safety (From the MSDS)
Methanol is intoxicating but not directly poisonous. It is toxic by its breakdown ( toxic ation) by the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase in the liver by forming formic acid and formaldehyde which cause blindness by destruction of the optic nerve. [2] Methanol ingestion can also be fatal due to its CNS depressant properties in the same manner as ethanol poisoning. It enters the body by ingestion. Fetal tissue will not tolerate methanol. If methanol has been ingested, a doctor should be contacted immediately. Toxic effects take hours to start, and effective antidotes can often prevent permanent damage. This is treated using ethanol or fomepizole[3]. Either of these drugs acts to slow down the action of alcohol dehydrogenase on methanol by means of competitive inhibition, so that it is excreted by the kidneys rather than being transformed into toxic metabolites. Though it is miscible with water, methanol is very hard to wash off the skin it is best to treat methanol like gasoline.

TREADSTONE

Right thats a start then.


Now read the data sheet for 2197..

http://amtulld002.bp.com/alignmsds/oavfin.nsf/0/71D68621C0B440E080256FA300542998/$file/000510.pdf

causeitflies

Yes, according to that, when the turbine oil is burned you should wear full SCBA and turnout gear...