A killer detail
#1
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This saturday I was about to make the first flight of the day on the F-15I and when I checked the commands while taxiing for takeoff I found something strange .. while the elevator throw seemed fine, the aleiron movements looked like 1/3 of the usual travel!
Ok, I aborted the flight, shut off the engine, and checked for the dual rates, atv´s, mixes looking for something that could made this happening.. nothing was found, and after doing this the elevons travel returned to normal! of course I packed everything and didn´t flew that day (it was a spectacular sunny saturday here.. a real pity).
Later at home, as the problem was happening in a elevon setup, I discarded a problem in the airplane.. so I disassembled the radio (a Futaba 9C) and found this killer detail: The yellow wire (signal) from the aleiron stick potentiometer was almost broken!!! (sorry for the cell phone crappy pic, but you can see a spot in the wire, as the broken part). This broken wire was messing up the voltage reading from the potentiometer, and almost cost me a plane.. fortunately I was lucky again and didn´t crashed the F-15. A interesting thing is that this radio is not old at all (bought it in 2005) and it was not heavily used.
So, I have a suggestion for everyone reading this:
1) Check the flying surfaces carefully before every flight. (not just moving them.. watch very carefully if something didn´t look right)
2) Check for the TX potentiometer wires if you have a Futaba radio bought earlier than this or about this same year.. of course, sending the radio for a checkup could be a
good idea. I also suppose that this applies for any brand...
Hope that this may help someone,
Enrique
Ok, I aborted the flight, shut off the engine, and checked for the dual rates, atv´s, mixes looking for something that could made this happening.. nothing was found, and after doing this the elevons travel returned to normal! of course I packed everything and didn´t flew that day (it was a spectacular sunny saturday here.. a real pity).
Later at home, as the problem was happening in a elevon setup, I discarded a problem in the airplane.. so I disassembled the radio (a Futaba 9C) and found this killer detail: The yellow wire (signal) from the aleiron stick potentiometer was almost broken!!! (sorry for the cell phone crappy pic, but you can see a spot in the wire, as the broken part). This broken wire was messing up the voltage reading from the potentiometer, and almost cost me a plane.. fortunately I was lucky again and didn´t crashed the F-15. A interesting thing is that this radio is not old at all (bought it in 2005) and it was not heavily used.
So, I have a suggestion for everyone reading this:
1) Check the flying surfaces carefully before every flight. (not just moving them.. watch very carefully if something didn´t look right)
2) Check for the TX potentiometer wires if you have a Futaba radio bought earlier than this or about this same year.. of course, sending the radio for a checkup could be a
good idea. I also suppose that this applies for any brand...
Hope that this may help someone,
Enrique
#4
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absolutely... It was disappointing at the moment, but it was the right thing to do.. much better than posting here a crappy picture of a meteor crater instead..
#6
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Matt, I guess that I had lot´s of luck until this moment.. there is a billion things that can go wrong in a r/c plane and more than once I had enough luck to find the problem before it happened. Hope this continues!
About the broken wire I think that it is not abrasion that caused this. There is a connector in the potentiometer board wich pulls the three wires real tight from a plastic support wich guides the wires away from the stick mechanism .. seems that this support crunched the yellow and red wire and after some up/down cycling of the throttle stick the wire suffered fatigue and started to break.
This problem seems to happen with the aleiron if you are using mode I or rudder in case of a mode II transmitter.. I suppose that it didn´t happens so much with the elevator stick as it is often more around it´s center compared with the throttle stick, but even so it is worth checking it too.
Carlos: this same thing happened to me with a old Futaba 8UHP radio, (and it costed me some helicopter parts, LOL) but I didn´t took it as a serious issue because it happened in a very, very used radio mostly with helicopters in wich I actually abused all the sticks with crazy movements.
About the broken wire I think that it is not abrasion that caused this. There is a connector in the potentiometer board wich pulls the three wires real tight from a plastic support wich guides the wires away from the stick mechanism .. seems that this support crunched the yellow and red wire and after some up/down cycling of the throttle stick the wire suffered fatigue and started to break.
This problem seems to happen with the aleiron if you are using mode I or rudder in case of a mode II transmitter.. I suppose that it didn´t happens so much with the elevator stick as it is often more around it´s center compared with the throttle stick, but even so it is worth checking it too.
Carlos: this same thing happened to me with a old Futaba 8UHP radio, (and it costed me some helicopter parts, LOL) but I didn´t took it as a serious issue because it happened in a very, very used radio mostly with helicopters in wich I actually abused all the sticks with crazy movements.
#7

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I learned the hard way (several times, most recently my F-18 at Fresno Jet Rally in 2004) to check for full throw, proper direction, etc.. before start up and again before pulling the taxi tank.... looks like you dodged a bullet this time! Glad you found it before takeoff...
Barry

Barry
#9
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ORIGINAL: dbarrym
I learned the hard way (several times, most recently my F-18 at Fresno Jet Rally in 2004) to check for full throw, proper direction, etc.. before start up and again before pulling the taxi tank.... looks like you dodged a bullet this time! Glad you found it before takeoff...
Barry
I learned the hard way (several times, most recently my F-18 at Fresno Jet Rally in 2004) to check for full throw, proper direction, etc.. before start up and again before pulling the taxi tank.... looks like you dodged a bullet this time! Glad you found it before takeoff...

Barry
By the way, I just fixed the radio with some spare wire and shrink tube.. the problem was solved. The wires where donated from a JR servo , so I will not have any problem with this radio again!




