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11-29-2008, 09:32 AM
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Engine choice
Hey Guys,
I am shopping for a new engine for my new jet
Which of these 3 engines would you recomend?, I need at least 18 Lbs of thrust.
- AMT AT180
- Jetcat P80
- JetJoe JJ1-800
Thanks
Matty
I am shopping for a new engine for my new jet
Which of these 3 engines would you recomend?, I need at least 18 Lbs of thrust.
- AMT AT180
- Jetcat P80
- JetJoe JJ1-800
Thanks
Matty
11-29-2008, 09:37 AM
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RE: Engine choice
There are only 2 real choices there. I would scratch the Jet Joe. Take a look at Jet Central too. Of the other two you have listed I would go with the Jetcat. Bob
11-29-2008, 11:42 AM
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I know I am going to open up can of worms......... but to me .... I have been sitting in the so "called wings" way too long. I have flown a lot of the Jet Mfg's Turbines out there. I will tell you that any Jet MFg makes who makes a turbine .....Makes a turbine!. I will tell you that Jet Joe gives you the BEST Support for a Turbinet in the USA for the money! Period. I have been doing Jets for a Long time and have made a lot of good friends all over the Great Land of the United States. Listen UP, Jet Joe has a Field Demo Pilot for every Turbine they make. These guys are not under a contract to fly only a Jet Joe Turbine........... just fly that Jet Joe Turbine that they Rep at meets and give the Honest feedback of how that Turbine runs! PERIOD! I am a dealer and going to be a Field Rep for the East Coast for Jet Joes. On the East Coast side you guys have all known Waggie as the "Guy in the Tent". There is a new plan for 2009. I will be doing the Meets that Waggie did on the East Coast side. Look out West Coast... because, here comes Jet Joe and Waggie to the West Coast! A long with a whole new line of bigger an better Turbines. We are also hoping to do the Toledo Expo this Spring.
Back to the subject, and the question that many of you have asked.............. who makes the best Turbine?
The answer is not a blank Name of a Turbine.......... To me it is "Who gives you the support for the hard earned $ that you want?"
Now ..... Who might ask...... does one guys 18 pounder bench run better than the other guys 18 pounder? Answer: An 18 pounder from any MFG will be some what easier to start............ the Question is??? Who can you pick up the phone or E-mail and get the right answer to "How does one bench run to the other?" Give me a call........... I will not give you BS. The 18 pounder Has different charicteristics than a 12 pounder. One can not say that one is better thaqn the other............. Just that , it is better that you know the charicteristics of the one that you are going to run on your Black and Decker Workmate!
I am certainly not trying to say who is the Turbine MFG. What I am trying to say is when a guy asks " What is the best Turbine I can buy?" that they are like thier full scale representatives. Each one runs a little different than the other, especially when mounted on different model Black and Decker work benches. Jet Jog and Waggie have put together a new team to let its customer know how Jet Joe runs you B&D great. To me... That's important! It is a long and hard continuing process that will keep improving as the years go by.
With all that Said.........
Respond!
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Back to the subject, and the question that many of you have asked.............. who makes the best Turbine?
The answer is not a blank Name of a Turbine.......... To me it is "Who gives you the support for the hard earned $ that you want?"
Now ..... Who might ask...... does one guys 18 pounder bench run better than the other guys 18 pounder? Answer: An 18 pounder from any MFG will be some what easier to start............ the Question is??? Who can you pick up the phone or E-mail and get the right answer to "How does one bench run to the other?" Give me a call........... I will not give you BS. The 18 pounder Has different charicteristics than a 12 pounder. One can not say that one is better thaqn the other............. Just that , it is better that you know the charicteristics of the one that you are going to run on your Black and Decker Workmate!
I am certainly not trying to say who is the Turbine MFG. What I am trying to say is when a guy asks " What is the best Turbine I can buy?" that they are like thier full scale representatives. Each one runs a little different than the other, especially when mounted on different model Black and Decker work benches. Jet Jog and Waggie have put together a new team to let its customer know how Jet Joe runs you B&D great. To me... That's important! It is a long and hard continuing process that will keep improving as the years go by.
With all that Said.........
Respond!
Jimmy the Graham, AKA "Crazy Cracker"
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11-29-2008, 11:51 AM
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I know I am going to open up can of worms......... but to me .... I have been sitting in the so "called wings" way too long. I have flown a lot of the Jet Mfg's Turbines out there. I will tell you that any Jet MFg makes who makes a turbine .....Makes a turbine!. I will tell you that Jet Joe gives you the BEST Support for a Turbinet in the USA for the money! Period.
I know I am going to open up can of worms......... but to me .... I have been sitting in the so "called wings" way too long. I have flown a lot of the Jet Mfg's Turbines out there. I will tell you that any Jet MFg makes who makes a turbine .....Makes a turbine!. I will tell you that Jet Joe gives you the BEST Support for a Turbinet in the USA for the money! Period.
Whatever drugs you have been ingesting in order to come up with the above baloney … can you please share them with us ?
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11-29-2008, 12:17 PM
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Gordon I think you missed the jest of that post lol
Gordon I think you missed the jest of that post lol
I just want a share of whatever it is that he's been using in order to come up with that stuff.
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11-29-2008, 01:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: j.duncker
Lets keep this one civil please.
J.Duncker Jet Mod
Lets keep this one civil please.
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Negative.....
Go with the P-80... Awesome runner. Flew mine for 2 yrs FULL POWER the entire flight, every flight, all the time. Ran like a champ... Sold it with an old airframe and bought a Titan..
11-29-2008, 01:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: Stobe777
Consider Also the G-booster g-80. Light and powerful like Wren SS but with kerostart. Very reliable and vast throttle response-the P80 is much slower spooling, bigger and heavier, so Wren SS or G-80 is my opinion.
Tuomas
Consider Also the G-booster g-80. Light and powerful like Wren SS but with kerostart. Very reliable and vast throttle response-the P80 is much slower spooling, bigger and heavier, so Wren SS or G-80 is my opinion.
Tuomas
The P-80 is like a Toyota/ Honda.... Keeps going and going and going... Running like a champ...
11-29-2008, 02:32 PM
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RE: Engine choice
Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
Call me
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So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
Call me
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11-29-2008, 03:07 PM
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Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
Call me
Jimmy the Graham AKA "Crazy Cracker"
Team Jet Joe
Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
Call me
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?????? You Capt 3 post seem to be under JJ hypnosis......[X(]
Keep up the bench running and I'll keep flying!!!
11-29-2008, 03:14 PM
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Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
Call me
Jimmy the Graham AKA "Crazy Cracker"
Team Jet Joe
Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
Call me
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Team Jet Joe
11-29-2008, 03:46 PM
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ORIGINAL: GSR
Now that is in consideration for funniest post of the year!!!!!! (You just needed to throw in Black and Decker Workmate)
ORIGINAL: cjmusa
Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
Call me
Jimmy the Graham AKA "Crazy Cracker"
Team Jet Joe
Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
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I second that thought oh wise Grasshoppa!!!
11-29-2008, 04:48 PM
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ORIGINAL: cjmusa
SILENCE Jetcat fanboy
Or
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OOOOOHHHHHhHHHHHHHHhHH
JetJoe rulez
SILENCE Jetcat fanboy
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OOOOOHHHHHhHHHHHHHHhHH
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[sm=cry_smile.gif] Don't hate bench run boy!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooohhhh P/F? J/S
11-29-2008, 05:08 PM
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Do you even own a Black & Decker Workmate dude????????? Huh???
If not, how can you make a fair comparison of Jet Joe and Jet Cat. Bench run is the true way to compare. None of this "I got 500 flights sheeeeet"
If not, how can you make a fair comparison of Jet Joe and Jet Cat. Bench run is the true way to compare. None of this "I got 500 flights sheeeeet"
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Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
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Jimmy the Graham AKA "Crazy Cracker"
Thank you.
Team Jet Joe
Listen afterburner dude...
So, you have a few hundred flights on your Jetcat with no problem. What does that prove???
I have more than 5 hours of Bench time on my Jet Joe and it has been running almost every time. I only had to replace the starter motor, the combustion chamber and the fuel pump. Everything else has been almost flawless most of the time.
we produce the BEST, the most reliable, the most scale, the most cheap and the most best products.
You elitist JetCat pilots think that just because your turbines can run hundreds of flights, your turbines are the best. Not so. In fact, most pilots don't want to fly that much anyway. And what's the fun if it just works all the time. You are like a turbine, you suck and blow.
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Jimmy the Graham AKA "Crazy Cracker"
Thank you.
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I have given it seriuse thought to purchase a JJ but after reading your post, NO WAY!
I dont care for arfs. I like to build. And after spending 6 months a over a $k in a airframe, there is know way in hell that I would install a engine that cant make it 5 hours on a bench with out have all that stuff changed out.
I asked the queston a few weeks back about your engines and your answer today is the best one I have recived yet.
11-29-2008, 05:23 PM
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Do you even own a Black & Decker Workmate dude????????? Huh???
If not, how can you make a fair comparison of Jet Joe and Jet Cat. Bench run is the true way to compare. None of this "I got 500 flights sheeeeet"
Do you even own a Black & Decker Workmate dude????????? Huh???
If not, how can you make a fair comparison of Jet Joe and Jet Cat. Bench run is the true way to compare. None of this "I got 500 flights sheeeeet"
Where exactly is "BJ-T" MI???? Would that be the city of " BLOW JET JOE," MI????
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11-29-2008, 05:56 PM
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Just for your information I have a "Silver Series Workmate" with Official Diamond plate footrests and special Flameproof HIGH heat surfaces custom designed for Turbine bench run operations!!!!!!!! I thought FLAMEPROOF worktops would come in handy in case I ever had a chance to bench run a Jet Joe. I probably will hold off bench running a Joe till I am able to afford the 3/4 inch thick Plexiglass fragment containment shell ( $189.99 at Drumworks) to place over the turbine section of the engine. Scotty
11-29-2008, 05:59 PM
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Folks.....
I've sat long enough listening to this dribble!
I have ONE question for all those Jet Joe wannabes.......
How many JetCats, Jet Central, Wrens, G Boosters, etc can come even close to the total hours Jet Joe's have been powering WorkMates??????
Put up or shut up!
Dave "No Workmate for me" Rigotti
I've sat long enough listening to this dribble!
I have ONE question for all those Jet Joe wannabes.......
How many JetCats, Jet Central, Wrens, G Boosters, etc can come even close to the total hours Jet Joe's have been powering WorkMates??????
Put up or shut up!
Dave "No Workmate for me" Rigotti
