The Airworld 1.4.5 Hawk is emphatically NOT a wing dropping machine.In fact it is thoroughly docile and predictable jet. An absolute pleasure to fly. I have been flying my TWO. for almost 14 years with Jetcat 180s since Meiringen.and they are serviceable waiting for spring !
That said, B Ae via Duncan Simpson, sent me drawings which showed the exact locations and angles of the wing dressings, which I have replicated.

Heres one, flown at three JWMs at 19.9 kg.

Good point DW, I did not realize the cockpit was no longer available. It makes a big contribution to my Hawk as a standout feature. I guess the demise of Airtech was another factor. I may be wrong here but I think there was a period where the transition from the Airtech to an electric replacement left a lot of people scratching their heads and passing.
I wouldn't say this Hawk won't drop a wing! Although I would say it is pretty forgiving. It gives you a lot of notice. I have a good friend who lost his early on in a final turn roll over. And when mine was new (15th flight) I let the nose get way too high after a bounce and it rolled, easily repairable but the Hawk will continue to pitch up (pilot error) until it stops flying, and then roll rather than sink. I think all Hawks will do that. But that is an extreme deck angle. So don't do that. The plus side is it snaps great! It is a really good aerobatic machine due to its rudder authority and fuselage side area. One of the best planes I have ever owned of any kind for K/E passes and can even do a rolling loop
DG nice picture! And FWIW shows the perfect deck angle for landing the Hawk, just hold that until it settles, beautiful.

Weight makes the biggest difference. I’ve managed to get mine ‘tippy’ twice in 14 years, both times I was landing early with lots of fuel and tried to hold it off same as when it is light on fuel. Mine is super light still (under 27lb) and lands very slowly
It’s a lovely aeroplane in knife edge, mine will climb strongly in KE, if I put a 160 in it I think it would KE loop!
Some people just have no feel, they can flick anything…

This was the EDF Hawk I built for a friend. It’s 32lb …take off to landing, so touch down is faster

Great performance, that edf must be a beast! Didn’t someone also do one with twin edf fans inside? Back in the thread somewhere. Cheers!

that was only the second flight so I was taking it easy on the cells. Around 210A full power. We ended up around 7 mins flight time.

Tam I think did the twin.

I just found a company that makes a cockpit for the hawk: https://www.hema-pilotensitz.de

I just placed an order for a half depth cockpit for pilot busts for my hawk. They also produce a full depth cockpit, and the price is equal to or maybe a bit less than the qoute I received years ago from Der Jet.

Cool. I’ll tell my last customer about that. Got to be better than the disappointment of scaleprint.de

dw

Yes, lack of cockpit... it looks awful with out one. Lack of scale gear, lack of surface detail and one piece wing and the current price have all contributed to make it a jet of a bygone era. At one time I liked it so much I had two. I remember paying $3k USD for it with the gear! Now it's significantly more and just not worth it.

Welcome to 2023 prices. Since it’s the best Scale flying Hawk made, it’s worth what it costs. It was never intended to be super scale, although the outline is spot on. I have had a few customers add detail, they enjoy making their Hawk unique.

Anyway, it’s gone so you don’t have to agonise anymore.

LOL, not agonizing Dave, like I said, I've had two of them in the past but, they just don't cut it anymore for the reasons offered....if they did, they'd still be available

Market here is different, Hawks and Red Arrows are like F-16’s in NA.
Sold the last one end of last year, but since in Europe new jet sales have reduced considerably and there are plenty of used examples out there, we are OK.

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No cockpit or pilot in mine! Just a head and seat top in canopy. Few notice!

Same thing I did. It really made the difference and only weighs a few grams. Will di the sama again with my new one :-)

Done some more work today. Slow progres, but at least it is not going backwards…

Soon ready for painting. One of the last of her kind…

Installed pitot tube in the vertical fin. The Futaba TAS01 reads wrong speed if installed in the fuselage where turbine creates vacuum.

Added vortex generators and fences on main wing.

Perfect building weather conditions in Norway nowadays…

Few pictures of mine from last weekend. Flies so nicely, gutted to hear they have stopped making them.

Nice pics Redaxis! What is your CG?

Thank you. I'll be honest I'm not sure now, as I have been moving it back. I still would say it's still slightly nose heavy.

I have moved all 3 batteries, 2 for the radio 2s 2600mAh and 1 x 3s LiFe for the turbine, these are now on a plate I made, which is just above the leading edge of the wing opening and below the forward part of the main fuel tank, I have a Kingtech 130G4+ and even with this engine it has far more power then needed, I think a 120 would be perfect.

Maybe stupid question, but you guys cut the elevator hinge carbon rod flush with the fuselage?

Sure. Mine is hollow and locked with steel pin. If you install those cover plates pin might not be needed. I did not like to glue it in case of some maintenance...

Mine flies with X120 now and I also think that is the sweet spot. Used to fly a lot with 140XBL but such engine is not needed IMHO. Too bad that the landing gear went so difficult to get that good plane had to be discontinued...

/Jyri

Test flew the last CARF Hawk produced yesterday, quite fitting that the First and Last Red Arrows kits fly in my local club 🙂

JetCat P-130RX in this one all PB & Core.