spark ignition for turbines
04-13-2009, 03:13 PM
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spark ignition for turbines
For those of you that are still using propane start turbines , you might be interested in one of the project I have just finished, and that is to replace the glow plug start with a spark ignition instead.
A few reasons for this, one is in very tight spaces , it is easy to damage the glow plug and glow plugs have to be replaced sometimes.
The spark plug will last forever in this application.
Easiest start ever, reliable and in just about any temperature.
The downside, you do have to install the ignition module and it will add some cost to your model.
Just a thought...
Roger
A few reasons for this, one is in very tight spaces , it is easy to damage the glow plug and glow plugs have to be replaced sometimes.
The spark plug will last forever in this application.
Easiest start ever, reliable and in just about any temperature.
The downside, you do have to install the ignition module and it will add some cost to your model.
Just a thought...
Roger
04-13-2009, 04:04 PM
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
Roger,
Bob Ritchey (Smart-Fly) and I are in production of a spark unit right now also. We started working on it when I posted the idea here on RCU a couple months back (I know others have used it too). Admittedly, introducing 20,000+ volts in to the sytem requires much caution and care. It is certainly not as easy as putting in a spark plug and electronic ignition unit (like I thought it would be).
Good luck!
Chad
Bob Ritchey (Smart-Fly) and I are in production of a spark unit right now also. We started working on it when I posted the idea here on RCU a couple months back (I know others have used it too). Admittedly, introducing 20,000+ volts in to the sytem requires much caution and care. It is certainly not as easy as putting in a spark plug and electronic ignition unit (like I thought it would be).
Good luck!
Chad
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
WOW I had no idea others were using it, I can only tell you that what I have works flawelessly
I had no intentions of marketing it ..
Roger
I had no intentions of marketing it ..
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
Interesting, you need to be careful of RF energy wiping the ecu eproms.
A more subtle but effective method is to use a combined ceramic glow plug with direct gas feed.
Rob.
A more subtle but effective method is to use a combined ceramic glow plug with direct gas feed.
Rob.
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
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Interesting, you need to be careful of RF energy wiping the ecu eproms.
A more subtle but effective method is to use a combined ceramic glow plug with direct gas feed.
Rob.
Interesting, you need to be careful of RF energy wiping the ecu eproms.
A more subtle but effective method is to use a combined ceramic glow plug with direct gas feed.
Rob.
Yes you are right, but what I have done is in sequence doing one thing at a time and going forward with the next step..
The ECU is opposite side of the ignition module.
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
ORIGINAL: ianober
Roger, can we see some pics of the install, perhaps a video demonstration of a startup?
Roger, can we see some pics of the install, perhaps a video demonstration of a startup?
Of course I can take pictures of the installation but no videos at this time as I don't have any video camera, My digital camera is the Nikon D40 with no video possibility.
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
ORIGINAL: George
Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
Its the wren 44 turbo prop but its not really a conversion, didn't touch anything on the engine except removed the glow plug and installed a spark plug
Roger
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Roger,
Bob Ritchey (Smart-Fly) and I are in production of a spark unit right now also. We started working on it when I posted the idea here on RCU a couple months back (I know others have used it too). Admittedly, introducing 20,000+ volts in to the sytem requires much caution and care. It is certainly not as easy as putting in a spark plug and electronic ignition unit (like I thought it would be).
Good luck!
Chad
Roger,
Bob Ritchey (Smart-Fly) and I are in production of a spark unit right now also. We started working on it when I posted the idea here on RCU a couple months back (I know others have used it too). Admittedly, introducing 20,000+ volts in to the sytem requires much caution and care. It is certainly not as easy as putting in a spark plug and electronic ignition unit (like I thought it would be).
Good luck!
Chad
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04-13-2009, 05:05 PM
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Its the wren 44 turbo prop but its not really a conversion, didn't touch anything on the engine except removed the glow plug and installed a spark plug and installed a resistor in the glow plug wire to trick the ECU in beleiving the glow plug is good.
Roger
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Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
Its the wren 44 turbo prop but its not really a conversion, didn't touch anything on the engine except removed the glow plug and installed a spark plug and installed a resistor in the glow plug wire to trick the ECU in beleiving the glow plug is good.
Roger
I'd be interested in that. It is a pain to change the plug in my turbo-prop. I know you said you weren't marketing it, but I'd be interested in getting a couple set-ups. Any chance?
George
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Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
We have done testing on Jet Central and Behotec engines with no problems (everyone that I know that has a JetCat has Kero start). We just want to ensure the high voltage doesn't damage any other components (ECU, receiver, etc.) The actual install and parts are simple, it making sure everything else is protected that will save a lot of headaches in the future.
Chad
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George,
We have done testing on Jet Central and Behotec engines with no problems (everyone that I know that has a JetCat has Kero start). We just want to ensure the high voltage doesn't damage any other components (ECU, receiver, etc.) The actual install and parts are simple, it making sure everything else is protected that will save a lot of headaches in the future.
Chad
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Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
Roger,
Which engine/s have you converted?
We have done testing on Jet Central and Behotec engines with no problems (everyone that I know that has a JetCat has Kero start). We just want to ensure the high voltage doesn't damage any other components (ECU, receiver, etc.) The actual install and parts are simple, it making sure everything else is protected that will save a lot of headaches in the future.
Chad
Chad I hear you but the question was towards me about which engine I have done , which of course is the Wren.
If there is enough demand I would make my system availlable to others just email me back channel.
Roger
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ORIGINAL: ianober
Very cool Roger, that ignition unit is MUCH smaller than I was thinking, awesome!!
Very cool Roger, that ignition unit is MUCH smaller than I was thinking, awesome!!
Roger
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
ORIGINAL: cy paul
i wonder if i can use this on my AMT olympus hmm
i wonder if i can use this on my AMT olympus hmm
Why not....
Roger also in Ontario LOL
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ORIGINAL: cy paul
Sweet, where abouts are you in Ontario
I'm in Toronto, North York.
Sweet, where abouts are you in Ontario
I'm in Toronto, North York.
I'm about 100 km east of Ottawa and 100 km west of Montreal not far from the 401
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RE: spark ignition for turbines
ORIGINAL: Gonzalo38
WOW...... no more burnt glow plugs. I want one
WOW...... no more burnt glow plugs. I want one
Give me a shout LOL
Roger