Ali,

I hope it never happens again, but if it does, just stick to "I pulled instead of pushed" and save yourself the grief!

Keep Smilin!

David S

Gosh this is getting heavy, I just build jets and to be honest have been in the 'hobby' for only a few years, I thought politicians were bad!
I don't confess to knowing Ali well, but I do build a few models for him and he always pays great attention to supplying new and high spec components for all the jets regardless of size and final value, no doubt in his line of business it would be easy to supply items that have been used etc, but no, everything comes brand new - each time.

I appreciate there are always going to be arguments for this and that, hey lets face it the human race is far from perfect, but importantly each does what he thinks is right, others should respect that decision -

Life's too short

marcs

Agreed!! I was going to write a nasty message to Mr know-all but you said what almost all of us here are thinking but in an unagressive tone which is nicer.

I will say this: Mr Gladwinks, your constant boasts to all of us about your past positions of grandeur are annoying to say the least. Your attitude to other people and your lack of modesty makes it hard to believe you had ever reached the positions you claim. If I found out you were captaining the flight I had just boarded I would insist on being removed from the aircraft. If I found out you were going to be my training officer in our Hawk in the RAF, I would pull your ejection handle (over the ocean).

There. I've said it.

Ali, sorry for your loss. I too think you are an inspiration to all of us trying to get into this hobby.

Two great posts there !!

Mr Gladwin,

Arrogance is one of the worst of human traits and you have it in abundance !! In fact the dictionary pretty much describes you perfectly when decribing the trait

"an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in presumptuous claims or assumptions"

however most of the people that i have spoke to since your post have described you as many things, none of which i can type on a forum

Duncan

Gents
I hardly think this is necessary or productive

M

Agreed. Lets leave the name calling to one person on this thread.
The funny thing is I started this thread as a way of sharing information and trying to cheer myself up after a pretty big set back. All it has done has wound me up even more than I was when I started.
I have never been a fan of this type of online fundamentalism where one man thinks he is doing things the only right way, I also am not overly keen on rudeness and arrogance in what is supposed to be a hobby for most of us. I respect other opinions and the way in which they conduct the hobby. I am just super glad to have it as my job, so I guess I will listen to the advice that I have been receiving and let the rope go. I dont understand David's rudeness ( or forgive it) But I think I have realized that there is not much point in trying to change it/ Him.
Regards Al

Mike, your right it's becoming childish and pathetic but ...........





He started it LOL


Maybe we can draw a line under this now. Everyone has their own way of doing things to achieve the same results, let's leave it at that

Dunc

Agreed on that point Mike.

I think its a build up over many years affecting many people and then suddenly there's a chance to release steam!

Ali,
Nice picture of you and me with my Viper jet in RC Int. Joe C!!

Well said Ali, I applaud your stance, coolness, and your gentlemanly attitude, and I once again "thank you" for initiating me into the wonderful world of jet aircraft, Pratts like Mr. Gladwin only put people off the hobby but thank god for ambassadors like you who encourage people like me to enjoy my hobby, “more power to your elbow my boy! [sm=thumbs_up.gif]

This is all very sad and so unnecessary.

As far as I can ascertain, no actual cause of the crash has been determined and is not likely to be. Could have been the battery, might not have been, could have been the rx, might not have been, either way there is no proof that a twin system would have saved the model, its possible but no one knows, we can only surmise.
Just recently a friend of mine lost a large-scale aerobatic model (with twin systems) and a small jet (single system) within 48 hrs. the fault? A loose wire in the tx! Single point failures are everywhere….they will find you one day!

I know both David and Ali and have done for many years; I have always found them great guys, constructive and of course opinionated (as are we all).
Yes, David can be a little abrupt, but I do not feel his statements were meant to be taken as insults.
I feel he is just very passionate about the hobby and safety (as I know is Ali) it is just his delivery that is at fault.

The crazy thing is that both you guys want the same thing, safe flying and successful models, you just express things very differently.

I consider you both to be good friends of mine; I would hate to see you ending up as long-term opponents over an argument that no one can win.


Regards
Paul

Good post Paul, [sm=thumbs_up.gif]

hi mark and the rest of you david gladwin has a axes to grind weather its with comp arf or any orther person ? david do you think he went out to crash a 10k jet i think not so for the second time or if not third time got off the soap box because we are sick off hearing it you are boreing regards jonathan

And going, and going and going......

hi ali. My name is david  brookes I don't know you but I fly fets as well. Don't let that dips#####t get you down. i seen photo's of your hunter here on the forum. I might ask a few questions that may be dumb sounding to me but it is one way that can get info.</p>

some people think that they are better than everyone else but they get theirs in the end (called cama).. people like him gives a bad rep to people in their own country to every other people in diff countries. I might stir people up some time but only in fun ..</p>

so don't let it get you down</p>

regards</p>

david brookes</p>

Hi David,

You don't need to apologise just because he lives in Australia. We should apologise for the export.

Boy do I know how you feel!!

LMAO.... just wait, 6-9 months from now SOMEONE will drag this thread up long after it has died and it will start all over again!

Man isnt that the truth! I remember when there was an U Bandit crash in St Charles, IL. and the damn thread seemed to never end! People just kept pulling the thread up 6 months later and longer. This thread may never end.Sometimes posting stuff on RCU can come back and bite you in the hairy sack. Gonna keep my sack for now...................

You know it!!!! Good lookin new pad by the way!!!!

<span style="color: #000080">Why wait that long? At least Ali did'nt lose it during prime time like my F-15 that I dumped due to etc. etc. etc...........pilot error.

Just tryna cheeryou up Ali..........I'm sure you remember that scene...........</span>

<span style="color: #000080">Now you and Mr. Gladwin, settle your differences and lets move on, cause all you guys (and girls) are heros in my book.



And you Al are Da Supa Mang!

Later everyone, gotta run.

Play nice!

B</span>

Dude!!! sweet photo sequence and awesome afterburner tail cones. sorry about both crashes fellas. super sux been there done it

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