JR 9303 Programming Help Needed
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To program Crow, I am trying to assign my two AIL servos to separate channels. I am also trying to use a separate channel for my Nose Steering Servo...not a big deal except...
I can't use AUX 4 for the Nose or the 2nd AIL because it can't be matched/slaved to a primary flight control channel (done in the Wing TYPE list). That leaves AUX 2 or AUX 3. But since I want to use the right slide lever for my proportional brake, I have to put Brake on AUX 2 or AUX 3 (the only channels I can select the AUX3 Lev) in the DeviceSEL menu. If I do that, I can't assign both the second Ail servo and the Nose servo to a primary flight control surface since either AUX2 or AUX3 would be assigned to the Brake.
I could Y my Nose to the rudder through a MatchBox (to reverse the servo direction) but that means I can't run the nose through a Gyro and I can't turn the nose steering servo off when I retract the gears.
I could Y my Ail but then I couldn't program Crow.
I am sure some else has struggled with this.
P.S. Even though the manual indicates you can assign AUX 4 to a primary flight control channel (page A-10), you can't. I tried it and Horizon tech support says their are some "idiosyncrasies" with AUX4 that prevent it. Go figure.
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George
I can't use AUX 4 for the Nose or the 2nd AIL because it can't be matched/slaved to a primary flight control channel (done in the Wing TYPE list). That leaves AUX 2 or AUX 3. But since I want to use the right slide lever for my proportional brake, I have to put Brake on AUX 2 or AUX 3 (the only channels I can select the AUX3 Lev) in the DeviceSEL menu. If I do that, I can't assign both the second Ail servo and the Nose servo to a primary flight control surface since either AUX2 or AUX3 would be assigned to the Brake.
I could Y my Nose to the rudder through a MatchBox (to reverse the servo direction) but that means I can't run the nose through a Gyro and I can't turn the nose steering servo off when I retract the gears.
I could Y my Ail but then I couldn't program Crow.
I am sure some else has struggled with this.
P.S. Even though the manual indicates you can assign AUX 4 to a primary flight control channel (page A-10), you can't. I tried it and Horizon tech support says their are some "idiosyncrasies" with AUX4 that prevent it. Go figure.
Thanks,
George
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I can't use AUX 4 for the Nose or the 2nd AIL because it can't be matched/slaved to a primary flight control channel (done in the Wing TYPE list).
I can't use AUX 4 for the Nose or the 2nd AIL because it can't be matched/slaved to a primary flight control channel (done in the Wing TYPE list).
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Yes. I did INH it but even having done that, you can not select it in the "Wing Type" matching/slaving menu. That is my issue with the manual and where Horizon says there is a glich with AUX 4 that prevents it.
George
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Hmm, sorry just remembered how I did it. 
I used a program mix to mix it to the rudder and turn it off when gear is up.
Do you need the gyro on the rudder too?

I used a program mix to mix it to the rudder and turn it off when gear is up.
Do you need the gyro on the rudder too?
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Hmm, sorry just remembered how I did it.
How do you mix the nose with the gear to disable the nose when retracted without that also disabling the rudder if the nose and rudder were connected through a MatchBox?
I know there are "magical" ways to do things with it that aren't described in the manual. For some reason, even when you INH AUX4, it (and only it) can't be selected in the Mate function of the "Wing Type" menu. Several have confirmed they can't do it either and Horizon doesn't have an explanation except to acknowledge you can't.
Yes, I could get away without the gyro but I still couldn't assign a separate channel to the Nose if I assigned my second Ail to AUX2 or AUX3. That's because I want to use the right lever (AUX3) for the brake. That would leave AUX2 for the second Ail and nothing for the nose. Only AUX 2 and AUX 3 allow you to select the right lever.
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Not using multibox.
Prog.Mix 6
Rud>Aux4
Pos 0 +100%
+100%
Pos 1 0%
0%
Bottom right of the screen you have Ail, Ger, Rud, Mix
Pos1 set on Ger
Butchered this pic from the manual, so just imagine it with the input from above.
It shows the Gear posistion on the bottom and throws at position 0.
Prog.Mix 6
Rud>Aux4
Pos 0 +100%
+100%
Pos 1 0%
0%
Bottom right of the screen you have Ail, Ger, Rud, Mix
Pos1 set on Ger
Butchered this pic from the manual, so just imagine it with the input from above.
It shows the Gear posistion on the bottom and throws at position 0.
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My Feedback: (49)
To use AUX4 for nose steering just use one of the mix functions.
1) Get rid of the Matchbox
2) Plug the rudder servo into the RUD and steering servo into AUX4
3) Inhibit AUX4 on the DEVICE SELECT screen
4) On the WING TYPE screen do not mate it to Rudder. Set the Rudder mate to inhibit.
5) Use one of the Program mixes: MIX3 - MIX6. Mix RUD>AUX4. Select the GEAR Switch to activate. Set the gear up positions to
0% and the gear down positions to what ever rate you need for proper steering.
6) If you want to use a gyro for steering just plug it in to AUX4 and plug the steering servo into the gyro.
The above works. I have a couple of my jets set up this way.
Joe
1) Get rid of the Matchbox
2) Plug the rudder servo into the RUD and steering servo into AUX4
3) Inhibit AUX4 on the DEVICE SELECT screen
4) On the WING TYPE screen do not mate it to Rudder. Set the Rudder mate to inhibit.
5) Use one of the Program mixes: MIX3 - MIX6. Mix RUD>AUX4. Select the GEAR Switch to activate. Set the gear up positions to
0% and the gear down positions to what ever rate you need for proper steering.
6) If you want to use a gyro for steering just plug it in to AUX4 and plug the steering servo into the gyro.
The above works. I have a couple of my jets set up this way.
Joe
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My Feedback: (1)
To get crow, use a normal wing type and dual aileron servo, with everything INH in Device SEL mode you get many options as to the dual aileron availabel chnl.
The crazy thing is now in a free mixes you get Flaperons as a mix choice, this is weird as I wonder when one would ever need a flaperon wing type then. I always use a point mix THRTL as master and FLPRN as slave........ This way I get them proportional to thrtl and get double lift increase should I need to advance throttle.
Hope this helps......
The crazy thing is now in a free mixes you get Flaperons as a mix choice, this is weird as I wonder when one would ever need a flaperon wing type then. I always use a point mix THRTL as master and FLPRN as slave........ This way I get them proportional to thrtl and get double lift increase should I need to advance throttle.
Hope this helps......
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Joe, Selleri and C/F
Thanks for your help guys. I will sit down and digest this and try it out. I was thinking the only way to "slave" anything was to use the Dual function. This is my first jet and the first time I have had to go beyond the "surface" of programing the 9303. My post was not with regard to the most interesting of subjects and hard to describe so I appreciate you hanging in there with me while I try to figure it out.
If I have a problem, I'll be back.
Thanks,
George
Thanks for your help guys. I will sit down and digest this and try it out. I was thinking the only way to "slave" anything was to use the Dual function. This is my first jet and the first time I have had to go beyond the "surface" of programing the 9303. My post was not with regard to the most interesting of subjects and hard to describe so I appreciate you hanging in there with me while I try to figure it out.
If I have a problem, I'll be back.
Thanks,
George



