FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
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ORIGINAL: rwwinter
Nobody had an inflight failure because nobody flew the FEJ F-14 the full envelope. Nobody flew agressive with her and the reason for this is that most of the pilots were afraid of braking her in flight.
It was pure luck that no wing failed in flight.
I personally think the new design with the two main spars FEJ has shown us in the pictures is the way to go. If there only intention would have been to use new materials and save weight why the redesign?
It is annoying that they are not able to say sorry and to admit that they made a fault... instead of telling me I have to pay for new wings.
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Well from what I know nobody has had an actual wing failure inflight? So they had no need to prove anything, and the only reason they have this now is it really ties into the fact they are switching over to the new material on all their models. So the testing they do on new stuff played right into the timing, I dont think they redid anything based on that wing test, my opinion they posted the results of the new material to clear up the issue. Correct me if I am wrong.
Well from what I know nobody has had an actual wing failure inflight? So they had no need to prove anything, and the only reason they have this now is it really ties into the fact they are switching over to the new material on all their models. So the testing they do on new stuff played right into the timing, I dont think they redid anything based on that wing test, my opinion they posted the results of the new material to clear up the issue. Correct me if I am wrong.
It was pure luck that no wing failed in flight.
I personally think the new design with the two main spars FEJ has shown us in the pictures is the way to go. If there only intention would have been to use new materials and save weight why the redesign?
It is annoying that they are not able to say sorry and to admit that they made a fault... instead of telling me I have to pay for new wings.
Rudi
Even the new design is capable of failure it may even transfer the failure point into the fuselage.
FEJ did the right thing with the redesign. Too bad they didn't get help in the initial design phase.
It is a far safer project now.
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RE: FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
Having now 9 flights on my Tomcat (two of them from a 500feet gras strip) I found some week points of the undercarriage.
I would suggest to reinforce this area BEFORE flying. The glas has not been sanded by FEJ and the glue used is brittle. Remove the glue, sand carbon and glas and clean with acetone. Bond with a thick epoxy flox mix.
On my last flight I lost a main wheel during the rollout on gras. Minor damage of the landing gear leg as a result. I secured the screw holding the main gear axle with loctite and this was not sufficient to hold the wheel in place.
As an improvement I now removed some material of the bolt for countersinking the screw...
Rudi
I would suggest to reinforce this area BEFORE flying. The glas has not been sanded by FEJ and the glue used is brittle. Remove the glue, sand carbon and glas and clean with acetone. Bond with a thick epoxy flox mix.
On my last flight I lost a main wheel during the rollout on gras. Minor damage of the landing gear leg as a result. I secured the screw holding the main gear axle with loctite and this was not sufficient to hold the wheel in place.
As an improvement I now removed some material of the bolt for countersinking the screw...
Rudi
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RE: FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
Received my new F14 wings today.Very nice quality the new wing also are notched for nav lights were my orginal ones were not.So I need to make a set of clear bezels for position lights now (red green )
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I was thinking just to form it like you would with a canopy.LED lights do not get very hot so it should not melt.But it would have to be tested .I'm open to better ideas if any body has made them.
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RE: FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
FYI I bought the new version f-14.
Just got the weight of the F-14:
40.66lb includes everything except:
pipes 1.28lb x 2
turbines k170 3.5 x 2
3 servos 8411 .2
battery for turbine 2.7
fuel - 14
pilots 2
i'm guessing total dry weight to be around 50lb and wet 64-67lb
All the wires and airlines are installed with all valves and cockpit,
Just got the weight of the F-14:
40.66lb includes everything except:
pipes 1.28lb x 2
turbines k170 3.5 x 2
3 servos 8411 .2
battery for turbine 2.7
fuel - 14
pilots 2
i'm guessing total dry weight to be around 50lb and wet 64-67lb
All the wires and airlines are installed with all valves and cockpit,
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FYI I bought the new version f-14.
Just got the weight of the F-14:
40.66lb includes everything except:
pipes 1.28lb x 2
turbines k170 3.5 x 2
3 servos 8411 .2
battery for turbine 2.7
fuel - 14
pilots 2
i'm guessing total dry weight to be around 50lb and wet 64-67lb
All the wires and airlines are installed with all valves and cockpit,
FYI I bought the new version f-14.
Just got the weight of the F-14:
40.66lb includes everything except:
pipes 1.28lb x 2
turbines k170 3.5 x 2
3 servos 8411 .2
battery for turbine 2.7
fuel - 14
pilots 2
i'm guessing total dry weight to be around 50lb and wet 64-67lb
All the wires and airlines are installed with all valves and cockpit,
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ORIGINAL: invertmast
Got any pictures of this ''new'' lighter layup of the F14? I'm surprised for this to be ''new'' and lighter, it doesn't sound like its much lighter than Bob's F14 with the old-method of layups.
ORIGINAL: Wap4life
FYI I bought the new version f-14.
Just got the weight of the F-14:
40.66lb includes everything except:
pipes 1.28lb x 2
turbines k170 3.5 x 2
3 servos 8411 .2
battery for turbine 2.7
fuel - 14
pilots 2
i'm guessing total dry weight to be around 50lb and wet 64-67lb
All the wires and airlines are installed with all valves and cockpit,
FYI I bought the new version f-14.
Just got the weight of the F-14:
40.66lb includes everything except:
pipes 1.28lb x 2
turbines k170 3.5 x 2
3 servos 8411 .2
battery for turbine 2.7
fuel - 14
pilots 2
i'm guessing total dry weight to be around 50lb and wet 64-67lb
All the wires and airlines are installed with all valves and cockpit,
Bob
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RE: FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
1/2 i will take some picks.
I will try and weigh it again to confirm wait, but i think its right.. If you reread the beginning of the thread the original one was 60lb dry, so it's about 10lb lighter. Bob has new version then the original with lighter parts.
Bob,
Whats up bob is wap from waco with mig 29. you got my good side on the video
Don't forget my shirt, i sent you another payment
I will try and weigh it again to confirm wait, but i think its right.. If you reread the beginning of the thread the original one was 60lb dry, so it's about 10lb lighter. Bob has new version then the original with lighter parts.
Bob,
Whats up bob is wap from waco with mig 29. you got my good side on the video
Don't forget my shirt, i sent you another payment
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1/2 i will take some picks.
I will try and weigh it again to confirm wait, but i think its right.. If you reread the beginning of the thread the original one was 60lb dry, so it's about 10lb lighter. Bob has new version then the original with lighter parts.
Bob,
Whats up bob is wap from waco with mig 29. you got my good side on the video
Don't forget my shirt, i sent you another payment
1/2 i will take some picks.
I will try and weigh it again to confirm wait, but i think its right.. If you reread the beginning of the thread the original one was 60lb dry, so it's about 10lb lighter. Bob has new version then the original with lighter parts.
Bob,
Whats up bob is wap from waco with mig 29. you got my good side on the video
Don't forget my shirt, i sent you another payment
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1/2 i will take some picks.
I will try and weigh it again to confirm wait, but i think its right.. If you reread the beginning of the thread the original one was 60lb dry, so it's about 10lb lighter. Bob has new version then the original with lighter parts.
Bob,
Whats up bob is wap from waco with mig 29. you got my good side on the video
Don't forget my shirt, i sent you another payment
1/2 i will take some picks.
I will try and weigh it again to confirm wait, but i think its right.. If you reread the beginning of the thread the original one was 60lb dry, so it's about 10lb lighter. Bob has new version then the original with lighter parts.
Bob,
Whats up bob is wap from waco with mig 29. you got my good side on the video
Don't forget my shirt, i sent you another payment
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RE: FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
Hey Bob,
I have a question, i knew i must have hooked up something wrong. When my gears are up the swing wing will not swing only when gears are down. Also when the wing swing back it's real slow compared to forward and it will not swing all the way back. The battery is fully charged and i have the swing wing on a 3 move switch.
I have a question, i knew i must have hooked up something wrong. When my gears are up the swing wing will not swing only when gears are down. Also when the wing swing back it's real slow compared to forward and it will not swing all the way back. The battery is fully charged and i have the swing wing on a 3 move switch.
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Bob pm your #.
Invert- Great! i really love your build. Don't forget to let me know when the cockpits are ready [img][/img]
Here are some pics
Bob pm your #.
Invert- Great! i really love your build. Don't forget to let me know when the cockpits are ready [img][/img]
Here are some pics
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When you quote wap could I get one as well
ORIGINAL: invertmast
WAP, I've got the 3D printed parts 99% done. All thats left for the cockpit, is the Seats, tub and stick grips. Shoot me a PM of the width of your F-14 at the windscreen hoop, and the width of the fuselage where the center hoop on the canopy is, and i can probably get ya some pricing on cockpit parts now, if you don't mid having to come up with your own seats and tub.
ORIGINAL: Wap4life
Bob pm your #.
Invert- Great! i really love your build. Don't forget to let me know when the cockpits are ready [img][/img]
Here are some pics
Bob pm your #.
Invert- Great! i really love your build. Don't forget to let me know when the cockpits are ready [img][/img]
Here are some pics
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When you quote sap could I get one as well
When you quote sap could I get one as well
ORIGINAL: invertmast
WAP, I've got the 3D printed parts 99% done. All thats left for the cockpit, is the Seats, tub and stick grips. Shoot me a PM of the width of your F-14 at the windscreen hoop, and the width of the fuselage where the center hoop on the canopy is, and i can probably get ya some pricing on cockpit parts now, if you don't mid having to come up with your own seats and tub.
ORIGINAL: Wap4life
Bob pm your #.
Invert- Great! i really love your build. Don't forget to let me know when the cockpits are ready [img][/img]
Here are some pics
Bob pm your #.
Invert- Great! i really love your build. Don't forget to let me know when the cockpits are ready [img][/img]
Here are some pics
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Wap4life,I was out of town for a week and just check in,this thread has been dead for a little while and now it's on fire again.Just want to say congrad's on your new FEJ F14 and good luck.Hope you post your build
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RE: FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
Hey,
I have had the jet since August and completed must of the build. I took a some pictures if you like to see something specific let me know. I will post more pics.
The gears work flawlessly every single time.
I have had the jet since August and completed must of the build. I took a some pictures if you like to see something specific let me know. I will post more pics.
The gears work flawlessly every single time.
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RE: FEJ F14 Black Bunny by enrico63 Pics and build
Sure... like to see what ever pic's you have the time to post.Nothing specific yet just general.I was planning to build mine this winter but will have to push it back to next summer.The good news is I should have three other jets done and flying by then.So right now I'm just following along on this one and learning what I can and what to look out for.You got to love RC universe best place to learn and share.BTW does anybody know anything more about Bobs flutter issue?.Like to avoid that.Glad to hear your having no problems with your gear.I have one of the older kits with the new wings,I just bought two new EVO160vx that should push her pretty good.Good luck with your build and look forward to seeing some pic's
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My flutter issue was I had the servo arm the same size as the arm on the elavator (jest like the plans showed) witch made it slopy about 1/4 inch each way. and when the flutter happend it wasted the servos. after we landed they moved about 2 inches both ways big time slop.
Them horizon guys are the bomb I had them all on it and dident tell them what the other one said and thay all said the same thing I needed to shorten the arm on the servo and they told me if I did it they would replace both 8711's I had to drill and tap new holes becouse ther was not any where I needed them and Bam two new 8711's
Now I have no slop what so ever. Now I have my travel rate up to 100% before they was turned down to 50% and had no manaical avantage big time tork.
Bob
Them horizon guys are the bomb I had them all on it and dident tell them what the other one said and thay all said the same thing I needed to shorten the arm on the servo and they told me if I did it they would replace both 8711's I had to drill and tap new holes becouse ther was not any where I needed them and Bam two new 8711's
Now I have no slop what so ever. Now I have my travel rate up to 100% before they was turned down to 50% and had no manaical avantage big time tork.
Bob
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Sure... like to see what ever pic's you have the time to post.Nothing specific yet just general.I was planning to build mine this winter but will have to push it back to next summer.The good news is I should have three other jets done and flying by then.So right now I'm just following along on this one and learning what I can and what to look out for.You got to love RC universe best place to learn and share.BTW does anybody know anything more about Bobs flutter issue?.Like to avoid that.Glad to hear your having no problems with your gear.I have one of the older kits with the new wings,I just bought two new EVO160vx that should push her pretty good.Good luck with your build and look forward to seeing some pic's
Sure... like to see what ever pic's you have the time to post.Nothing specific yet just general.I was planning to build mine this winter but will have to push it back to next summer.The good news is I should have three other jets done and flying by then.So right now I'm just following along on this one and learning what I can and what to look out for.You got to love RC universe best place to learn and share.BTW does anybody know anything more about Bobs flutter issue?.Like to avoid that.Glad to hear your having no problems with your gear.I have one of the older kits with the new wings,I just bought two new EVO160vx that should push her pretty good.Good luck with your build and look forward to seeing some pic's
the issue is full length flap is a bad idea for models it takes away the washout and thats why the wing are stalling on all these you see in the videos. Ali' told me if that was his plane he would cut the flap and use the outbord flap for crow! that will make this thing land like a boomarang remember the real ones have leading edge slats and a computer to keep it stable. if you dont do it dont use flaps! in Ali's words resist the urge to use the flaps! ( I like the way he talks)
so I will be cutting my flap on the panell line
Bob