Pilot J10
 

I happened to see a video on YouTube that PilotRC has J10 coming out. Does anyone have any info on it yet?
thanks,
Tone

There is a kit in the UK, but not built yet, it’s around the CARF size

It is listed on the pilot rc website but not the USA site yet and I have been unable to find pricing. Hopefully soon

Sent email to Tony asking for pricing. He replied me to contact Steve @ Chief Aircraft.

was Steve at chief able to give you any intel?

Haven't contact him yet. Decide to wait till FLJ for info.

Pilot Rc 3D Jet full composite for 12-22kg turbine. Full composite airframe and external paint

$2,599 2.84m J10 3D Jet with UAT, fuel tank, Vector thrust pipe, fuel dot, fuel tank vent, servo extension wire, hardware. Without retract gear . Come with 250ml air trap, servo extension wire,fuel tank

$3199 2.84m J10 3D Jet with UAT, fuel tank, Vector thrust pipe, fuel dot, fuel tank vent, servo extension wire,hardware. Electric retract gear with brake.

$4499 TR(turbine ready) version 2.84m J10 3D Jet with UAT, fuel tank, Vector thrust pipe, fuel dot, fuel tank vent, hardware. Electric retract gear with brake. With smoke system. preinstall the above items in factory.


$699 2.84m J10 3D Jet Aluminum electric retract gear and brake. Includes the controller

$349 custom scheme

This is what I received from Steve. Prices seem close to the Carf version.

Tone

Thanks Tone!

Alex

Thank you

It seems that the Pilot J-10 is now shipping.. Has anyone started building one?

Saw this on on the KingTech Turbine Owners group on FB. Pilot RC J10 112", K-210. No other info given


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I was considering it myself. There are several videos on YouTube, performing 3D. However, i looked at the manual (available at Pilot website), i didn't like the fuel and smoke tanks.

Will be happy to get first hand impression for this and also if there are any scale details (like lines, rivets, etc.).

There is some detail pictures on the pilot website, it has plenty of panel lines but no rivets.

Maiden and thoughts
 

A vid from this past weekend.

What a fun plane to fly.

Used stock equipment. 4L tank , 250ml stock UAT. All high flow 4mm ID fittings and stock 4mm ID tubing. Easy build - took 2 days. Stock turnbuckles, ball linkages. Stock servo extensions. Stock electric gear and brakes.

K210
12.5KG dry with full UAT
Bluebird H51B

Very nice! What do you think of the quality? Any major issues?
TIA
Rbt in Mke



Yep

No issues. I am really liking the overall quality of these PilotRC kits. After having the PilotRC Viperjet 3M for over 1 year and having over 130 flights on it - the J10 purchase was a no brainer. Always wanted a J10 as IMHO it is possibly the best 3D jet out there....
The carbon laminated formers are strong, glue joints are nice - no missed spots. The stock JP retracts are perfect. The controller worked everytime. My 2nd landing was a rather hard pancake - but the airframe took it well. No damage...

I have just added a smoke system with the stock 1.5L tank. Changed location of pump, UAT and removed 500g of lead from the nose. (factory CG is always too safe/too nose heavy)

Really liking the J10. 100ft (STOL) takeoff and landings now...
Over 80 flights now...
I removed the grease that came in the stock JP retracts to allow the LG to have better stock absorbing capabilities.

Awesome! This will need to be my next plane. I think it will fit in my Subaru and if not the nose comes off with 5 bolts!

Thanks for the vid. What smoke pump are you using and can you share some install pics when you get a chance? No rush.

The front is held by 5X M4 screws - easy to take off. I am using the PilotRC Smoke pump ( https://pilot-rc.com/smoke-pump/ ) with Dual option (pulse or throttle mixed). I have 11 of these pumps - love them. (From 210N ton this J10 to 400N on my 4M Leo)

Where do you get those smoke pumps? The link has no price and a google search doesn't show anyplace available.

directly from pilotrc since there are no distributors for the pump in the USA yet..

I did the same on my J10, with the stock grease was too stiff, is a 10 min job. I also replaced the nose spring to a softer one. It was the only mod needed, it is a great plane!

I will probably want some more detailed info on this mod when the time comes, if you could share it then.

I´ll post a picture of the spring. Is not really needed but my field is a bit bumpy and now all the bumps are perfectly absorbed. Try to mount all the equipmet as forward as possible or you will need to add nose weight. I don´t have lead in the nose and my CG is a bit nose heavy with 3x 5000mAh batteries. Weight with 210N turbine, uat full + smoke system is around 12,5kg (27.7lb)

Thanks. How did you guys drain grease?

Just take the spring out clean it with a rag and that is. I added a bit of light grease to reduce friction. I tested dropping it from around 2-3" and worked great.

I wasted a can of brake cleaner and a pair of nitrile gloves on it. I found that to be the easiest.
Took the spring out - sprayed brake parts cleaner on it till all the grease disappeared. Soaked a rag in brake parts cleaner and cleaned the springs wells. - 5 mins and it was all gone. Then added some light grease and assembled it back...
If you see the video of the VSTOL I posted - that had a harrier landing of sorts all day long - 8 or so flight that day.

Thanks guys. I fly exclusively from hard surfaces so it's good to know how to soften it up a little if needed

Anyone care to post some internal install pics of their J-10? Nice to see where you all decided to place your equipment in terms of CG...Got mine ordered and considering a slightly heavier KT235G4

We have 2 of these at our field - with KT 210 G2 (appx. 1750g + 150g in cables) and Swiwin 220 (appx 1750g + 50g in cables)

Images for setup are similar to the ones on:

https://pilot-rc.com/j10-b-2-95m-116/
https://www.chiefaircraft.com/pdf/J10-manual.pdf

I thought about putting the 235 - but the K235 G4 (2100g + 50g) an additional 250g compared to my K210 G2 . To offset - I will have to add 250g to the nose. The performance with the K210 is great and with the 220 much better. The stock tank is 4L - as such you have to possible add another tank for the 235 as well.

Mods I made to save battery tray weight:
Moved stock 250ml UAT to forward fuselage (just a little front of the battery tray)
Fuel pump is under battery tray
Smoke pump is also under battery tray
Batteries used: 1X 3S Hobbyking LIFE 2200mah, 2X 2S LIPO 2200mah Pulse

Weight on front nose wheel - appx 900g (no lead weights anywhere).

Thanks for the info. So based on the CG you're flying with, a KT235 would require added ballast (or bigger batteries etc) to balance.Good to know

Is there a noticeable improvement on punch out between the SW220 vs the KT210G2?

the 220 is definately better! More POWA! 🤣

I have about 100 or so flights with my 210. If I were to do it again I would put a 220 in it. It just feels a lot more locked in and everything is a little bit more crisp. Not to mention that the installation is so much easier with just a single cable going to the turbine. My 210 G2 has almost 150g in cables! Ugg!

Thanks again for the info.....👍

A few pics of the green scheme....bit of a lime feel going on 🙂
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This plane is on my list, I love the green. Not sure exactly when I will get to it, but it is definitely one I want to try eventually.

Pilot J10 - gear grease
 

I suggest you check the gear for excessive sticky grease/lube. Mine had too much sticky grease/lube. I removed all of it for the spring to have any effect.

You bet....thanks

I opened up the scissors on one of the struts and took a look inside there. I’ll be cleaning all that up and adding some light oil once the thick grease is removed. Gives me something to do on it while I wait for servos and components to arrive

Almost ready for maiden - this Sunday (weather permitting)
 

PilotRC J10 Red 112"

Swiwin SW 220
Bluebird H51B Helical Gear Servos X 5
Cortex Pro

3s lipo 2200mah
2s lipo 2X 4400mah
Full uat - 250ml
No smoke fluid - empty 1.5L Smoke tank and PilotRC Smoke pump
No fuel - Empty larger 5L tank for possible 8-10min flights

Right gear 5704
Nose gear 962
Left gear 5646

12312g = 27.14lbs dry (full UAT)

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Cheers!
Desert Fox 1

Great maiden on your second J-10....performance looks incredible with that 220....congrats 👍