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tothemax 10-03-2007 01:12 PM

RE: Seba's 3-AXIS Vectoring Mig Video
 
AWESOME plane and pilot!!!!!

Likai 10-03-2007 01:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: mr_matt

I cannot imagine what that plane weighs? Does anyone know? Did it compete at the WJM? I assume they weight them.

The reason I say that is that the turbines are mounted so far aft, it is incredible. I can't imagine how he balanced it. Incredible flying too!

Also does anyone know if he modified the kit to make it a 9-13 fuse profile or did he stay with the 9.12 profile?

EDIT: A quick back of the envelope calculation from measuring my plane says he would need about 1.5-2 pounds of lead in the nose with all else being equal. Not so bad I guess
The dry weight of this plane is under 20kg (rule of WJM2007). But no matter thrust/weight ratio or total thrust they are all illegal under US AMA rule.

gluit 10-03-2007 01:48 PM

RE: Seba's 3-AXIS Vectoring Mig Video
 
Hi Likai,

When you say it is illegal under AMA rule do you mean the turbine thrust of are you speaking of rule 13 of the AMA regulations? Thanks Aman

ianober 10-03-2007 01:50 PM

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Man, just when you think pilots cant make their planes anymore amazing something like this comes around. That is probably the most amazing flight I have seen on a jet so far. I cant wait to see who raises the bar above that!!!!!

Airforce7 10-03-2007 01:58 PM

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I think the SM Harrier might rank up there with this one when it comes out. The video of the Mig is really awesome!

ianober 10-03-2007 02:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Airforce7

I think the SM Harrier might rank up there with this one when it comes out. The video of the Mig is really awesome!
I agree, if the SM Harrier ever comes out, and it will have to do VTOL to top that!!!

rjbob 10-03-2007 02:20 PM

RE: Seba's 3-AXIS Vectoring Mig Video
 
A couple of links of the full scale.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d828c8fa9d
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b39_1175488578

Tom Antlfinger 10-03-2007 02:51 PM

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Yea! The Mig is the nines.....but how about the lady that drives Seba to and from the field in her Lambo Murcilago.......only in Italy.....[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]

jmohn 10-03-2007 03:08 PM

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That's really impressive! I can do that in my Extra, but it doesn't cost as much as my car :D

Very cool, it would be interesting to see how the vectoring thrust in controlled. Maybe a magazine will do an article on the jet?

Hats off !!!

carbunkle 10-03-2007 03:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: turnnburn

Now he needs a smoke system, preferably with smoke off the wing tips.
apparently he does already>

carbunkle 10-03-2007 03:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: jmohn

That's really impressive! I can do that in my Extra, but it doesn't cost as much as my car :D

Very cool, it would be interesting to see how the vectoring thrust in controlled. Maybe a magazine will do an article on the jet?

Hats off !!!
If you look close at the pics in post 14 you can see the vector pipes are controlled by 2 servos each, as are all 2 axis vectoring set-ups, which will control pitch and yaw, but with 2 vector pipes they can work seperately to give roll axis control also, making it 3 axis vectoring,. so I assume he has them mixed with/to the appropriate sticks.. I just wonder if he uses a gyro to help stabalize the hover, probably not, as good as he is...

I guess maybe now more guys will be useing the term "circle flyers" in the r/c jet world as well as the props..
I have said it before and I'll say it again "If a jet doesn't have thrust vectoring it bores me to sleep."
Just kidding all you "circle flyers"..:D

jetjohn 10-03-2007 04:45 PM

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Just one word.

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done,
John C

erbroens 10-03-2007 04:57 PM

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Outstanding plane & flying skills..... thx for posting it! [sm=thumbup.gif]


Enrique

jmohn 10-03-2007 06:11 PM

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What's next a scale F-35 stvol jet :D

Joe McBride 10-03-2007 07:50 PM

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!?

The bar has been set! Truly amazing to think of something that big and that EXPENSIVE standing up on its tail and floating around that close to the ground.

Wait...it can't be real, it must be photoshop, or "videoshop" or something. Johnny are you out there--can you verify this?:)

Woketman 10-03-2007 08:02 PM

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Does that mean that the antenna was Photoshopped in? :)

Likai 10-03-2007 08:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: gluit

Hi Likai,

When you say it is illegal under AMA rule do you mean the turbine thrust of are you speaking of rule 13 of the AMA regulations? Thanks Aman
I'm not confirm the exact number of this rule, but in the document show below it is rule-3
http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/510-A.pdf

carbunkle 10-03-2007 08:53 PM

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WELL WE NEED TO FIX THAT..[sm=thumbs_down.gif]

yeahbaby 10-03-2007 09:05 PM

RE: Seba's 3-AXIS Vectoring Mig Video
 
the website doesn't provide much in the way of pricing info. anyone across the pond have an idea how much that bird costs???? is it painted in the mold? the flying performance is fantastic!!



carbunkle 10-03-2007 09:18 PM

RE: Seba's 3-AXIS Vectoring Mig Video
 
THE COMP-ARF VERSION IS $9000, SO I BET SEBA'S MAY BE A LITTLE MORE..

felker14 10-04-2007 06:08 AM

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Here is info I got from them yesterday in email.

NOW I HAVE ONE KIT ARF MIG 29 Germany IN STOCK.
IT COSTS 4.900 + SHIPPING
LANDING GEAR AND COCKPIT ARE INCLUDED AND ASSEMBLED
L.G. BRAKE ARE OPTIONAL AND COST 120 EURO
THE 2 TRUSTH-TUBES FOR 2 P60 OR P70 JETCAT OR SIMILAR ARE IN STOCK TOO AND COST 200 EURO FOR BOTH
....IN THE MODEL YOU HAVE TO INSTALL ONLY THE SERVOS AND TURBINE!

carbunkle 10-04-2007 07:38 AM

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ORIGINAL: felker14

Here is info I got from them yesterday in email.

NOW I HAVE ONE KIT ARF MIG 29 Germany IN STOCK.
IT COSTS 4.900 + SHIPPING
LANDING GEAR AND COCKPIT ARE INCLUDED AND ASSEMBLED
L.G. BRAKE ARE OPTIONAL AND COST 120 EURO
THE 2 TRUSTH-TUBES FOR 2 P60 OR P70 JETCAT OR SIMILAR ARE IN STOCK TOO AND COST 200 EURO FOR BOTH
....IN THE MODEL YOU HAVE TO INSTALL ONLY THE SERVOS AND TURBINE!

WOW, BIG DIFFERENCE THERE.. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL TO ME.. THEY MUST NOT BE MODDED COMP-ARFS..

sc0tt 10-04-2007 10:07 AM

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http://www.sebart.it/!-html/jet.htm - scroll to the bottom for the 3d version

It says 1- P160 with Y pipe or 2- P70's

I appears the one in the video was mod'd for twin 160's for the thrust to weight ratio?

Q8_HAWK 10-04-2007 11:15 AM

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WooooOoooW
i think both pilot and the plane shuld be in the Guinness World Records Book .
truly amazing flying and awesome plane . cant think of anyone did it better .

yeahbaby 10-04-2007 12:14 PM

RE: Seba's 3-AXIS Vectoring Mig Video
 
does anyone else have this bird yet? how bout a single Olympus with a split pipe. I would think the thrust losses would be significant. and not sure if the fuse is deep enough to accomodate anyway.

pretty good price, any chance of getting Seba online to provide amplifying info directly to the forum.

I'm diggin' the paint scheme!!!


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