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Doc... 12-04-2010 06:26 AM

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Hi,

Good job on that. I didn't use that method but instead made a servo hatch in each stab which works well. Some one asked back a few threads ago we should start a building thread for the BD-5. What's wrong with this one? With many people waiting on there ship, I can contact BVM and Sung in Calif. so they can refere people here since there are no instructions and no Video as promised. Once that happens, this thread will hopefully get busy.

Doc...

BaldEagel 12-04-2010 09:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: Doc...

Hi Mike:

I share your frustration, I really do. When I 1st ordered mine, BVM was told 6-8 weeks. It finally came 13 weeks later. I was also told there would be an instruction video. There was nothing. This has been going on for some time now. I paid for mine up front and that may be where the problem is. The only thing I can think of is to boycot Skymaster, at least the extream ones. It's no skin off of BVM, they just take the money. The price is right but what if we need replacement parts? Another 3 months? I have several pictures and methods which will improve the BD-5 but with Jon in China not having instructions for the ship, I'm not in business to write a manual for him which I'm sure he is hoping all our coments and pictures will help him do just that. I have built the Boomerang Sprint and Elan and Alan admits his instructions are limited but at least all the improtant info is there. When I un-packed the BD-5, the shipping slips with the contents were all in China writing. Sorry about my venting but I really dispise being told one thing and have it totally the other way. When the time comes, I will post pictures which will really improve and simplify the construction but,............I will do it only in privite email. I WILL NOT give Jon the satisfaction he is looking for and will not do his work for him. Stay in touch!!!
Sorry about the venting.

Doc...

aapanama 12-04-2010 05:20 PM

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hi guys; here a couple more photos of my BD-5 with the James Bond theme.. Here with the possible final scheme.. greetings AAA from Panama

aapanama 12-04-2010 05:51 PM

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HERE ARE A COUPLE MORE.. GREETINGS aaa PANAMA

Zagzoo 12-08-2010 12:27 PM

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How big is the fuel tank? you got a picture of it in the BD? Just trying to get an idea so I can shove more tanks in it for smoke.

aapanama 12-09-2010 07:07 PM

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the keroseme tank that came with my BD-5 (James Bond) is 3 liters or 108 Fl. onces greetings from Panama

Zagzoo 12-14-2010 02:29 PM

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Wooo Hoooo.. got email from BVM: Expect delivery in 2 - 3 weeks!!

Doc... 12-14-2010 07:00 PM

RE: BD-5J Project
 
Hi Frank:

I hope the info you received is correct, I really do, but please remember they shut down at the end of the month for 4-5 weeks for Chinese New Year. I hope they plan on having all the orders shipped by then..Good luck!!!!!!

Doc...;)

zonker123 12-15-2010 05:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: Zagzoo

Wooo Hoooo.. got email from BVM: Expect delivery in 2 - 3 weeks!!

Frank

I was told 3 weeks ago that I would see mine in 4 weeks sooooooooo

Maybe you are getting mine.

Or

Maybe I am getting yours.

Maybe we will be celebrating the Chinese new year BD-5 less.

Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst.

Good luck to both of us.

Mike


Zagzoo 12-15-2010 02:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: zonker123



ORIGINAL: Zagzoo

Wooo Hoooo.. got email from BVM: Expect delivery in 2 - 3 weeks!!

Frank

I was told 3 weeks ago that I would see mine in 4 weeks sooooooooo

Maybe you are getting mine.

Or

Maybe I am getting yours.

Maybe we will be celebrating the Chinese new year BD-5 less.

Hoping for the best, prepared for the worst.

Good luck to both of us.

Mike


Well.. (#1) there was a cut off day for orders that WOULD BE shipped before chinese new year (which I know I was before) and (#2) Mine was probably the last box to go in the big cargo trailor to be put on the boat for the USA.

Doc... 01-03-2011 04:55 AM

RE: BD-5J Project
 
Hi,

In looking at your pictures, I'm wondering if you have installed the metal pipe yet. In most of the BD-j5's I have seen the exaust end on the Jet have been cut since the pipe is not designed to go all the way to the end. As an example, stop the video in front of you when the Jet is talking off and you can see what I mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbK9N_BlALM

If this link doesn't work, I'll re-sent it.

Doc...

aapanama 01-10-2011 05:25 PM

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Here are a couple of photos of my BD-5 (James Bond) with all the graphics, I am starting to install all the linkages for ailerons, flaps. steering, elevator and rudder. also I started on the turbine..

aapanama 01-10-2011 05:39 PM

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two photos of my BD-5 at an airshow exhibition.. AAA

moki180 01-28-2011 06:04 PM

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Today I was pleasantly surprised when my bd5 arrived today which is now sitting on my kitchen island,its been a long 4 months . I been following the forum for awhile and noticing that the finishing instructions aren't being publicized or posted due to the lack of instruction that came with the plane.I understand , but any info or pics on what other modelers have done would help, so I'm not re-eventing the wheel on save on some time on finishing for the spring.

thanks frank

Todds Models 05-17-2011 09:33 AM

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My BD5 arrived yesterday. Just a quick look over and it looks good. One question, only one hatch on the bottom of the wing for the aileron servo. Where does the flap servo go?

zonker123 05-17-2011 07:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Todds Models

My BD5 arrived yesterday. Just a quick look over and it looks good. One question, only one hatch on the bottom of the wing for the aileron servo. Where does the flap servo go?


If you look at the root end of the wing you will a hole recessed in the wing for the flap servo. I hope to maiden mine next week. In an earlier post the C/G is stated at 4-3/4 from the root. Would appreciate confirmation if some one could confirm. It looks about right since thats approx 25% of the wing cord. Appreciate any input.

thanks
mike

Zagzoo 05-18-2011 05:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: zonker123



ORIGINAL: Todds Models

My BD5 arrived yesterday. Just a quick look over and it looks good. One question, only one hatch on the bottom of the wing for the aileron servo. Where does the flap servo go?


If you look at the root end of the wing you will a hole recessed in the wing for the flap servo. I hope to maiden mine next week. In an earlier post the C/G is stated at 4-3/4 from the root. Would appreciate confirmation if some one could confirm. It looks about right since thats approx 25% of the wing cord. Appreciate any input.

thanks
mike
Mike, here is the info from another xtreme BD thread:

Posts: 23
Score: 100
Joined: 6/10/2003
Last Login: 5/14/2011
From: panama, PANAMA
Status: offline doc: I am builiding a BD-5 from extreme... a fellow that goes by the name dirtydingus has built one and flies very neat.. he sent me the following information,, maybe it can help`you I hope..
ELEVATOR 5/8 INCH UP 5/8 INCH DOWN
AILERONS 3/4 ¡NCH UP 3/4 INCH DOWN
RUDDER 1 INCH LEFT 1 INCH RIGHT
FLAPS 1 AND 1/4 INCHES DOWN
CENTER OF GRAVITY 4 AND 3/4 INCHES BACK FROM LE AT ROOT
GREETINGS FROM PANAMA REPUBLIC OF PANAMA

IF YOU CAN SEND ME SOME PHOTOS THEY WILL BE HELPFULL...

Hide Signatures

Todds Models 06-01-2011 03:28 PM

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What was the total weight of the BD5 when done? Just weighed mine as it comes out the box and it is a whopping 16 pounds. Mine is unpainted so I am guessing about 25 pounds ready to fly....??? Seems a bit heavy.......</p>

Doc... 06-03-2011 08:42 AM

RE: BD-5J Project
 
Hi,

That's about right. 20-22lb thrust engine should do well. Figure with the fuel tank it comes with, the weight on that full is about 5-6 lbs.

Doc...

Todds Models 07-15-2011 02:21 PM

RE: BD-5J Project
 
Okay I have found some time to start working on my BD5.  My version came unpainted with  nothing installed. Just plumbed the retracts and was wondering how the nose wheel steering worked. Went through the box and found no mounting hardware for the steering servo or linkage. Looks like it uses pull - pull cable.

If anyone could post a quick picture how it is set-up I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Todd

Todds Models 07-15-2011 02:25 PM

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Oops, looks like aapanama has a picture in post 109

Todds Models 07-31-2011 02:20 PM

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http://images.rcuniverse.com/gallery.../lg-223373.jpg

http://images.rcuniverse.com/gallery.../lg-223372.jpg

http://images.rcuniverse.com/gallery.../lg-223375.jpg

Been working on my BD5 for a few weeks. Here it is in mostly white primer with a little color.

Done all the mods, thanks Zagzoo for helping.<br type="_moz"/>

Zagzoo 07-31-2011 05:22 PM

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That paint job looks sweet. Here is the link to the mods to the BD5:

[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10634311/anchors_10634311/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#10634311]BD-5 Mods[/link]

Todds Models 08-04-2011 01:00 PM

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http://images.rcuniverse.com/gallery.../lg-223498.jpg

http://images.rcuniverse.com/gallery.../lg-223497.jpg

http://images.rcuniverse.com/gallery.../lg-223496.jpg


Here it is with some color. And yes it was painted outside in a sand storm with finger paints.

Zagzoo 08-04-2011 01:43 PM

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That looks really good!

pilot tw 05-18-2012 07:07 PM

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Hi, all

Skymaster/ Xtreme jets will release the G2 Bd-5 by new materil Airex, the new G2 version will be 1kg light than the old version,

Best regards

Anton

FormerCA. 06-07-2012 06:37 AM

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Ordered my Skymaster BD5 Silver Bullet thru Hobbies Xtreme in Bossier City Louisiana. Also ordered a Jetcat p100 for power. Will let you guys know how it goes.

Zagzoo 06-07-2012 05:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: FormerCA.

Ordered my Skymaster BD5 Silver Bullet thru Hobbies Xtreme in Bossier City Louisiana. Also ordered a Jetcat p100 for power. Will let you guys know how it goes.
Hope it is improved.. enjoy the wait!

FormerCA. 06-12-2012 06:42 PM

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Anton

Did you guys address some of the issues with this kit in the Gen 2?

Ron

FormerCA. 06-12-2012 06:49 PM

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I guess so right? I have always admired this plane, like most of us have, since seeing it in action in the James Bond film. I saw one video of the plane at some airshow and it looked like it handled pretty good, good manners on landing and such. Straight wing with flaps usually equals good flying characteristics.

FormerCA. 06-12-2012 06:55 PM

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Frank

Question

How does the JC Rabbit compare to the Jetcat P100? This Gen2 version is supposed to be a couple pounds lighter.

Thx

Ron

Zagzoo 06-15-2012 02:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: FormerCA.

Frank

Question

How does the JC Rabbit compare to the Jetcat P100? This Gen2 version is supposed to be a couple pounds lighter.

Thx

Ron
Ron,
Actaully the JC rabbit is too mch at 20#. I only used full throttle for take off, then I leave the throttle at 5/8. You can do what every you want at 5/8 throttle. BTW if you go this route (20lbers+) you need to redo the thrust line or you will have trouble. I have a post here showing what I did to change it (post #139)

Frank

BluFox 06-15-2012 03:22 PM

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Hello Ron:

Our Jet Central Rabbit 100 develops 22.5 lb thrust at 6000 feet. This is real thrust. The turbine weighs 2lb 3 oz. all up and averages 7 oz per minute. It is full auto kero start. The start takes about 40 seconds on the average.

This Rabbit 100 is delivered in ks start mode however, gas start is also programmed in the FADEC. Simple change over for those who wish to use gas as their choice for starting.

Side by side, the Rabbit is smaller than its competitors, generates more "real thrust" and is as user friendly as one could want. Reducing thrust takes less than a minute. A thrust / RPM chart is included in every manual. A thrust reduction to a suitable wide open throttle thrust for the BD-5 does not in any way affect any other operational parameter.

We will be offering a Show Special at Jets over Kentucky. . .you may purchase even if not in attendance.

Thanks for the question. . .

Regards,
Eric Clapp
Managing Director

FormerCA. 06-15-2012 07:44 PM

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Frank

Thanks for that info, I read your mod post very carefully and I intend to follow it by the letter. This Gen 2 BD is supposed to be a couple pounds lighter, I had already went with the Jetcat P100. Already looking down the road to another jet, so I will definitely be looking at the Jet Cental turbines.

I'll keep you guys posted with build pics and detailed data when the build begins.

Ron

FormerCA. 06-15-2012 07:48 PM

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Eric

I really appreciate your response and all the info. It really speaks well of a product when potential customers can get a response from a manufacturer like the one you provided. While I missed you on this purchase, you probably just sold another engine down the road on one of my future projects.

Thank you sir

Ron

FormerCA. 07-15-2012 12:49 PM

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Got the shipping notice on the P100 Jetcat-it will be here on the 18th, havent heard on the BD5 yet. Already have the Jetcat smoke pump.

And were waiting...........................



Ron

FormerCA. 08-24-2012 03:32 AM

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Shipping notice received, plane on the way.

rick hamel 08-27-2012 06:56 PM

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Bds are always a great project-with the straight wing they fly wellhere is a pic of a 55% I designedfull motion stab-nomex construction-jetcat power

invertmast 08-27-2012 08:37 PM

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Great looking BD rick, do you own the molds to that? If so, would you be interested in providing a short kit? I love BD's and yours looks to have the most accurate outline.

Thanks,
Thomas

rick hamel 08-28-2012 05:35 PM

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I was planning to-but my plate is so full right now I could screem trying to get the batwing ready for Toledo this yeareventually I'll be laying them up-the unit you see is all composite Nomex construction (same as dragon) I'm currently switching out the robart struts for trailing link


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