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SoCalSal 02-23-2008 05:27 AM

New to Jets
 
Hi all, I'm considering breaking into the world of jets. Have no jet experiance . I'm an average r.c pilet ( no 3d crap) Sooooooooooooo what would some recommendations for a newbie like me. Engine, engine size and plane?? Do they make like a jet trainer that won't go a bazillon mph just to fly it.
Thanks for any help.

Henk Visser 02-23-2008 05:30 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
Hello welcome to the jet scene:D
Do a search here on the forum for boomerang you can't go wrong with them!

regards, Henk A happy Elan owner:)

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 05:44 AM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: SoCalSal

Hi all, I'm considering breaking into the world of jets. Have no jet experiance . I'm an average r.c pilet ( no 3d crap) Sooooooooooooo what would some recommendations for a newbie like me. Engine, engine size and plane?? Do they make like a jet trainer that won't go a bazillon mph just to fly it.
Thanks for any help.
Thank you I will do just that.

mr_matt 02-23-2008 06:20 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
Hi Sal,

Not sure where you are in SoCal but there is a huge group of guys that fly all around the region. We will be in the San Fernando valley flying this Sunday and on March 15th maybe 20 of us or so will be at a place south of Bakersfield called "Buttonwillow". If you want to stop by I think you will be able to see some Boomerangs and some of the turbine set ups that are successful for a lot of people, including several beginners.

Anyway, good luck with you search, I would say jump right in the water is fine. Jets are a lot of fun, I can assure you.

Regards,


SoCalSal 02-23-2008 06:38 AM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: mr_matt

Hi Sal,

Not sure where you are in SoCal but there is a huge group of guys that fly all around the region. We will be in the San Fernando valley flying this Sunday and on March 15th maybe 20 of us or so will be at a place south of Bakersfield called "Buttonwillow". If you want to stop by I think you will be able to see some Boomerangs and some of the turbine set ups that are successful for a lot of people, including several beginners.

Anyway, good luck with you search, I would say jump right in the water is fine. Jets are a lot of fun, I can assure you.

Regards,


Hi and thank you for the invatation. I know Buttonwillow. I stop there years ago when I was in the trucking busniess. Anyhow I live in the San Diego area so that would be a very long trrip. And with gas prices so high plus my SS Trailblazer sucks fuel I'll think I'll pass this time. Need to save a few bucks right now...I got laid off last week, my son got laid off yeaterday and my daughter's company is going out of busniess in a month. Sooooooooooooo I need to hit the lottery asap.
But we will be O.K. this is just a bump in the road of life.
Thanks again
P.S. my names is Steve. Sal are the initial's in my name

flyinfool1 02-23-2008 07:50 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
Job hunting is one of my very least liked things to do.
Good luck in your hunt.

But on the bright side, that gives you a lot of time to do a lot of reading here on RCU about jets.
There is an incredible amount of knowledge here for the taking.
There are some huge threads about jet "trainers"
If you are looking for an ARF, the Baby Boomerang is probably the most popular, if you like to build, the Reaction 54 is hard to beat.
There are a lot of other good first jets out there, these two are just very popular and have stood the test of time.

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 09:40 AM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: flyinfool1

Job hunting is one of my very least liked things to do.
Good luck in your hunt.

But on the bright side, that gives you a lot of time to do a lot of reading here on RCU about jets.
There is an incredible amount of knowledge here for the taking.
There are some huge threads about jet "trainers"
If you are looking for an ARF, the Baby Boomerang is probably the most popular, if you like to build, the Reaction 54 is hard to beat.
There are a lot of other good first jets out there, these two are just very popular and have stood the test of time.
Thanks for the help and support. At my age jobs will be very hard to come by in this business climate.
I do love to build.I have a 33% Waco I built from a Barth kit. I took the "Peoples Choice Award" the first time I entered it in any type of contest. And I'm almost done framing up my Balsa USA big Stearman.
I don't know why I want to build a jet???? but I think it is the power source.both of my big bi-planes are RCS radial powered. You see I just like fine engines and a true jet is starting to get under my skin"
I have so much to learn about this area of R.C before I take the plunge...not to mention the $$$$$$$$$$$ involved.
Thanks
Steve

Shok 02-23-2008 10:01 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIc30ZUe5uE

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 10:34 AM

RE: New to Jets
 

Thanks.that was Koooooooooooooooool. Looks about like what I made need to get started.
Thanks

bob1393 02-23-2008 01:55 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
Hi Steve - there are 2 huge threads here on RCU - One for the Reaction54 and one for the Baby Boomerang (sometimes called Boomerang Intro). If you want to build one, I recommend the Reaction54 - it has retracts and flaps like most jets. The video above is fixed gear, as well as the AV8TOR, Cub Jet, Facet which are all kits. The basic R54 kit is less than $500. If you prefer an ARF, then the Boomerang series are great flyers - The Baby or Intro, the Elan, or the XL. The 3 are listed in order of increasing size. On RCU today, they announced the Baby on sale for $599 while supply lasts. They are normally $769. Both the R54 and the Boomerang have web sites with pictures, prices, and videos. For the Boomer go to Boomerang Jets and the R54 go to BTE Engineering.

Bob

DelGatoGrande 02-23-2008 02:36 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: SoCalSal

... ( no 3d crap) ....

i dont like 3d guys to call my toys "jet crap"



...i love performing rolling harriers as much as i love to fly fast and scale

show some respect sir in kinds of flying

wellcome on board. take a look on this for start:

http://www.skymasterjet.com/bh.htm

http://www.jetsrc.com/modelos/hawk/hawk_en.htm

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 02:49 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande



ORIGINAL: SoCalSal
WoW! did not mean to get your panties in a wad.Sorry sir. But I say what I feel.That is part of being an American.We can say what we think.
And thank you for the welcome>
... ( no 3d crap) ....

i dont like 3d guys to call my toys "jet crap"



...i love performing rolling harriers as much as i love to fly fast and scale

show some respect sir in kinds of flying

wellcome on board. take a look on this for start:

http://www.skymasterjet.com/bh.htm

http://www.jetsrc.com/modelos/hawk/hawk_en.htm

dubd 02-23-2008 02:59 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande



ORIGINAL: SoCalSal

... ( no 3d crap) ....

i dont like 3d guys to call my toys "jet crap"



...i love performing rolling harriers as much as i love to fly fast and scale

show some respect sir in kinds of flying

wellcome on board. take a look on this for start:

I agree 100% I fly WW2 warbirds, jets, IMAC, and 3D.

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 04:30 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: dubd



ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande



ORIGINAL: SoCalSal

... ( no 3d crap) ....

i dont like 3d guys to call my toys "jet crap"



...i love performing rolling harriers as much as i love to fly fast and scale

show some respect sir in kinds of flying

wellcome on board. take a look on this for start:

I agree 100% I fly WW2 warbirds, jets, IMAC, and 3D.
O.K. I can see that I have offended some people here by my choice of words. I'll say I'm sorry to those offended. But I won't change my wording. You have every right to express your feelings about this. .Like I said. that is on of OUR rights as American's.something called freedom of speach. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think we still have that right in this country. I would be really surprized if we have lost that right, but I don't think so. Not yet. I did not mean dis-respect to anyone with my wording.none at all. So chill out and get over yourself.

rjbob 02-23-2008 05:01 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: SoCalSal
I'm an average r.c pilet ( no 3d crap)
Ya, you have the right to say most anything you want to. But you are asking for assistance from jet pilots, many of whom love to fly all types of model airplanes...from jets to control-line and including 3-D. Do you think it's nice to put down other's passion just because you don't like it or don't have the skills needed to fly it? All while asking for help from them. Bad form.

Billy 02-23-2008 05:26 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
Easy guys. Let's not be so quick to jump on Steve. I don't think he was putting anyone else's style of flying down, just trying to say he wanted to do some straight forward flying around. I'm sure if he said that kind of thing in person it would have not been an issue, but unfortunalty when we type something, the black and white seems to sometimes be taken for face value without the help of facial expressions or body english.

Now lets get on to more constructive stuff like finding a new jet for Steve.

I'd personally go with the Baby Boomer. Get your feet wet with that or jump into a Bobcat. Like Matt said we will be at the field Sunday for some flying.

Billy

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 06:20 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: rjbob



ORIGINAL: SoCalSal
I'm an average r.c pilet ( no 3d crap)
Ya, you have the right to say most anything you want to. But you are asking for assistance from jet pilots, many of whom love to fly all types of model airplanes...from jets to control-line and including 3-D. Do you think it's nice to put down other's passion just because you don't like it or don't have the skills needed to fly it? All while asking for help from them. Bad form.
To those of you that have helped thank you. To those of you who thought I was putting anyone's style. likes or dislikes down you need to grow up a bit. Bad form is jumping in and whinning about a figure of speach. Like I said I had no intentions of bad mouthing anyone choise of flying styles or equipment. I use the word crap like many use the word "frigging"
I don't belive I was putting anyones choise of aircrafte or flying style down. If I had said 3d flying and the people who do it are crap then you would have a valid "fight" but I never said that at all. And you are right.I don't have the skills to do 3d flying, not even close. I don't even want to learn, I find no intrest in it, the same goes for heli's. Op's there I went and insulted the heli pilots. All I was doing was asking a simple question about getting into first time jets.
My simple question has been misconstrued by a few shallow people who get hurt so quickly by a simple word. Like those people are so rightous that they never use figures of speech.......Like I said before get over it.



SoCalSal 02-23-2008 06:39 PM

RE: New to Jets
 

ORIGINAL: Billy

Easy guys. Let's not be so quick to jump on Steve. I don't think he was putting anyone else's style of flying down, just trying to say he wanted to do some straight forward flying around. I'm sure if he said that kind of thing in person it would have not been an issue, but unfortunalty when we type something, the black and white seems to sometimes be taken for face value without the help of facial expressions or body english.

Now lets get on to more constructive stuff like finding a new jet for Steve.

I'd personally go with the Baby Boomer. Get your feet wet with that or jump into a Bobcat. Like Matt said we will be at the field Sunday for some flying.

Billy
Thanks Billy.you are one of the few so far on this site that knows I had no intention of putting anyone down. Oh Brother!! I can't belive how some people can take a simple figure of speech and twist it, turn it and bend it just so they can have something to say. Look at Rjbob's post. I think it is clear he didn't read my post when I apologized to any I offended. He just had to put his two cents in.

dubd 02-23-2008 06:41 PM

RE: New to Jets
 

ORIGINAL: SoCalSal



ORIGINAL: rjbob



ORIGINAL: SoCalSal
I'm an average r.c pilet ( no 3d crap)
Ya, you have the right to say most anything you want to. But you are asking for assistance from jet pilots, many of whom love to fly all types of model airplanes...from jets to control-line and including 3-D. Do you think it's nice to put down other's passion just because you don't like it or don't have the skills needed to fly it? All while asking for help from them. Bad form.
To those of you that have helped thank you. To those of you who thought I was putting anyone's style. likes or dislikes down you need to grow up a bit. Bad form is jumping in and whinning about a figure of speach. Like I said I had no intentions of bad mouthing anyone choise of flying styles or equipment. I use the word crap like many use the word "frigging"
I don't belive I was putting anyones choise of aircrafte or flying style down. If I had said 3d flying and the people who do it are crap then you would have a valid "fight" but I never said that at all. And you are right.I don't have the skills to do 3d flying, not even close. I don't even want to learn, I find no intrest in it, the same goes for heli's. Op's there I went and insulted the heli pilots. All I was doing was asking a simple question about getting into first time jets.
My simple question has been misconstrued by a few shallow people who get hurt so quickly by a simple word. Like those people are so rightous that they never use figures of speech.......Like I said before get over it.



I spent 11 words on the subject, yet you've typed a novel. We're all about flying, not ranting. BTW - No need to get worked up and wrap yourself in the American flag. No one here is infringing on your 1st amendment rights.

Back on topic... I just got my first jet recently. It's a Tamjet F-16 with a P-120SE. If you're a decent pilot you'll no problem flying it with an experienced turbine pilot by your side. I took off and landed the plane on my second flight and got my turbine waiver on my 8th.

limeybob 02-23-2008 06:48 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: bob1393

Hi Steve - there are 2 huge threads here on RCU - One for the Reaction54 and one for the Baby Boomerang (sometimes called Boomerang Intro). If you want to build one, I recommend the Reaction54 - it has retracts and flaps like most jets. The video above is fixed gear, as well as the AV8TOR, Cub Jet, Facet which are all kits. The basic R54 kit is less than $500. If you prefer an ARF, then the Boomerang series are great flyers - The Baby or Intro, the Elan, or the XL. The 3 are listed in order of increasing size. On RCU today, they announced the Baby on sale for $599 while supply lasts. They are normally $769. Both the R54 and the Boomerang have web sites with pictures, prices, and videos. For the Boomer go to Boomerang Jets and the R54 go to BTE Engineering.

Bob
don't forget the Jetmach thread.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_50..._1/key_/tm.htm

Bob

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 06:51 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: dubd


ORIGINAL: SoCalSal



ORIGINAL: rjbob



ORIGINAL: SoCalSal
I'm an average r.c pilet ( no 3d crap)
Ya, you have the right to say most anything you want to. But you are asking for assistance from jet pilots, many of whom love to fly all types of model airplanes...from jets to control-line and including 3-D. Do you think it's nice to put down other's passion just because you don't like it or don't have the skills needed to fly it? All while asking for help from them. Bad form.
To those of you that have helped thank you. To those of you who thought I was putting anyone's style. likes or dislikes down you need to grow up a bit. Bad form is jumping in and whinning about a figure of speach. Like I said I had no intentions of bad mouthing anyone choise of flying styles or equipment. I use the word crap like many use the word "frigging"
I don't belive I was putting anyones choise of aircrafte or flying style down. If I had said 3d flying and the people who do it are crap then you would have a valid "fight" but I never said that at all. And you are right.I don't have the skills to do 3d flying, not even close. I don't even want to learn, I find no intrest in it, the same goes for heli's. Op's there I went and insulted the heli pilots. All I was doing was asking a simple question about getting into first time jets.
My simple question has been misconstrued by a few shallow people who get hurt so quickly by a simple word. Like those people are so rightous that they never use figures of speech.......Like I said before get over it.



I spent 11 words on the subject, yet you've typed a novel. We're all about flying, not ranting. BTW - No need to get worked up and wrap yourself in the American flag. No one here is infringing on your 1st amendment rights.

Back on topic... I just got my first jet recently. It's a Tamjet F-16 with a P-120SE. If you're a decent pilot you'll no problem flying it with an experienced turbine pilot by your side. I took off and landed the plane on my second flight and got my turbine waiver on my 8th.
I'm with you. Let's get back on track. What is this turbine waiver you speak of?? I know so little about jets and any rules or regs about them. No one at my field flys jets. I'm an O.K. pilot at best.

AFTERBURNER1 02-23-2008 07:55 PM

RE: New to Jets
 

Get yourself a BABY BOOMER with a JETCAT P-60 or 70.... AWESOME, NO HASSLE COMBO!!!

bob1393 02-23-2008 08:22 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
Steve - to fly a turbine jet airplane you need an AMA waiver. Go to the AMA web site and you can read the requirements to get a waiver. You can fly on a buddy box without a waiver.

Bob

SoCalSal 02-23-2008 08:47 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: bob1393

Steve - to fly a turbine jet airplane you need an AMA waiver. Go to the AMA web site and you can read the requirements to get a waiver. You can fly on a buddy box without a waiver.

Bob
Thanks Bob I'll do that now.

rjbob 02-23-2008 08:49 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: SoCalSal


ORIGINAL: Billy

Easy guys. Let's not be so quick to jump on Steve. I don't think he was putting anyone else's style of flying down, just trying to say he wanted to do some straight forward flying around. I'm sure if he said that kind of thing in person it would have not been an issue, but unfortunalty when we type something, the black and white seems to sometimes be taken for face value without the help of facial expressions or body english.

Now lets get on to more constructive stuff like finding a new jet for Steve.

I'd personally go with the Baby Boomer. Get your feet wet with that or jump into a Bobcat. Like Matt said we will be at the field Sunday for some flying.

Billy
Thanks Billy.you are one of the few so far on this site that knows I had no intention of putting anyone down. Oh Brother!! I can't belive how some people can take a simple figure of speech and twist it, turn it and bend it just so they can have something to say. Look at Rjbob's post. I think it is clear he didn't read my post when I apologized to any I offended. He just had to put his two cents in.
Okay, SoCalSal, I reread your post and offer an apology. I also looked at your profile and saw your beautiful Waco. I hope I get the opportunity to see it in person sometime.
Bob

dbarrym 02-24-2008 12:55 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
Steve -

I am located here in SD and am fortunate to have access to a local flying site that is Jet-friendly (at least, till fire season begins...:eek: ) ...something you will discover is not easy to find here in SoCal.

PM or Email me, you are welcome to come out some weekend and tickle the sticks of my big Boomerang XL on a buddy box. In return, I want to pick your brains a bit about the Waco and Moki combo...I have an RCS250 radial myself and am looking for a home to fit it into. ;)

Barry

DelGatoGrande 02-24-2008 01:50 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
come on guys lets take a brake here and try to win a new jetcrazy guy!

...if you work this invitation with Barry i think you will be just fine![8D]

.....again my personall thinking say a jet must look like a jet..download hawks video and see how it flys...


Hey Barry ...this is very nice from you!....im new too!can i win a ride also?:D:D



take care guys!

RonLongAZ 02-24-2008 10:04 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
Steve,

As new to jets myself. I have tried a few planes. I found that the coposite Bandit BVM with a p-60 in it flyes great and very slow to land. and looks like a jet by the way:D or even more fun and almost lands itself [:-] is the Comp arf Euro sport and that is a very afordable plane. Just my 2 cents.


Ronald R Long

dbarrym 02-25-2008 12:47 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande

Hey Barry ...this is very nice from you!....im new too!can i win a ride also?:D:D

Thanks George, the offer is valid only here in San Diego...if you can make it out here, you can fly my Boomer as well. ;)

Steve, just give me a call or Email me if you'd like to come out to see some jet in action - there are 3 or 4 of us who regularly fly turbines at the MCAS Miramar club field. I will be out this weekend with the Boomer, a Tam's F-16, and (hopefully) test fly my JL L39.

Barry

rjbob 02-25-2008 04:33 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
If you like to build, the Reaction 54 is hard to beat as a first jet, Steve.

dbarrym 02-25-2008 09:41 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
I concur with the Reaction recommendation. I had one for a while (it's now on its 3rd owner) and it is a great intro to jet flying. I called it my "Ugly Stik" jet, as it was as easy and fun to fly as the old (original) Jensen design.

But the Boomer can't be beat (in any size) if you prefer sport jets in ARF form and is much more versatile overall, IMHO.

Barry


causeitflies 02-25-2008 09:48 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
For a sport jet I concur... R54 for builders and Boomer for ARFers:D

yeahbaby 02-25-2008 09:52 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
I got $1 that says you can't get all 3 of 'em in the truck Boyeeeeeeeee!!

get back to work!!!!!:D saturday is just 'round the corner



ORIGINAL: dbarrym



ORIGINAL: DelGatoGrande

Hey Barry ...this is very nice from you!....im new too!can i win a ride also?:D:D

Thanks George, the offer is valid only here in San Diego...if you can make it out here, you can fly my Boomer as well. ;)

Steve, just give me a call or Email me if you'd like to come out to see some jet in action - there are 3 or 4 of us who regularly fly turbines at the MCAS Miramar club field. I will be out this weekend with the Boomer, a Tam's F-16, and (hopefully) test fly my JL L39.

Barry

dbarrym 02-25-2008 10:02 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: yeahbaby

I got $1 that says you can't get all 3 of 'em in the truck Boyeeeeeeeee!!

get back to work!!!!!:D saturday is just 'round the corner
yo beatch....I didn't say I'd take all 3 on the same day, did I? :)

L39 plumbing and 'lectrical bits now all done, just gotta bolt the nose on and program everything....if not Sat. then Sunday fo sho.

B.

yeahbaby 02-25-2008 11:22 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
Oooooo I C right right right right riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttt tttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeee

u owe me $1

mikedenilin 02-26-2008 09:11 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
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Hi Barry,

Look at what you did to me after you sold me your Cyclone a few years ago! here are my new rides. This is an addiction and I've found no cure! I got Major "Bear" decal ready for my Chippy Ho.

Just want to say thank you for being the first guy sucking me into this.

:D

Mike

Bob_B 02-26-2008 09:38 AM

RE: New to Jets
 
Mike,
Are all of those model painted after moulding, we need to talk! :)

Shaun Evans 02-26-2008 01:36 PM

RE: New to Jets
 
Steve,

Spring Valley, huh? Not too far away. Do you shop at Discount Hobbies? John Weaver over there is getting into jets pretty serious, too. He's got several half-finished projects over there.

I've got a shop in Normal Heights where I've got two Yellow Aircraft F-18s (the big ones) and a Yellow Aircraft F-22 taking turns on the building table. You're welcome to stop by and take a look around any time. Give me a call if you're interested. 619-944-7574. Welcome to jetting!

dbarrym 02-26-2008 01:51 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: mikedenilin

Just want to say thank you for being the first guy sucking me into this.

:D

Mike
:) Looks great, Mike! Yes, it is an addiction...:D

I've gotten 3 people into jets now, if all the jet vendors/mfrs they have bought from paid me a 5% commission, there would be a shiny new UltraBandit...or Twin F-18...fully paid for in my hanger...[8D] :)

Enjoy!! PM me if you are ever in town long enough to come down and fly w/us here in SD.

Barry

SoCalSal 02-26-2008 02:02 PM

RE: New to Jets
 


ORIGINAL: YellowAircraft

Steve,

Spring Valley, huh? Not too far away. Do you shop at Discount Hobbies? John Weaver over there is getting into jets pretty serious, too. He's got several half-finished projects over there.

I've got a shop in Normal Heights where I've got two Yellow Aircraft F-18s (the big ones) and a Yellow Aircraft F-22 taking turns on the building table. You're welcome to stop by and take a look around any time. Give me a call if you're interested. 619-944-7574. Welcome to jetting!
i.that's great to know. PM me with the address to your store, I'll come by soon.
Thanks
Steve


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