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vetagator

11-23-2008 12:12 AM

RED FLAG

This short movie is OFF DA HOOK. Incredible footage. Its about 48 minutes long but awesome.
It features red flag excercises at Nellis AFB. Check it out.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/24197/figh...ation-red-flag

Mattyb

11-23-2008 12:30 AM

RE: RED FLAG

thats weird says can only be viewed from the us.

vetagator

11-23-2008 12:41 AM

RE: RED FLAG

I don't know why mattyb. This film is a must for f15 freaks. Features many other jets also, 16s, 18s, tornadoes, c17, harriers etc.... I need to find it in DVD high def to watch on my wide screen HD plasma

Billy

11-23-2008 12:56 AM

RE: RED FLAG

I saw this last night on a HD channel. It was awesome. I liked the A-10's and the aggressor F-16's

seanreit

11-23-2008 03:06 AM

RE: RED FLAG

It's 2am texas time, and I just finished watching it in the shop. WOW!

madmodelman

11-23-2008 03:45 AM

RE: RED FLAG

Can't view it from the UK.

seanreit

11-23-2008 04:00 AM

RE: RED FLAG

Try youhide.com

http://www.youhide.com/

NickC5FE

11-23-2008 04:12 AM

RE: RED FLAG

I bought this movie in HD about a year ago and i thought it was pretty good. A little corny in spots, mostly due to the "tool" they decided to be their pilot to follow. The coolest i thought was the CSAR portion that showed the downed aircrew member and how a situation like that is resolved. It brings back memories from S.E.R.E training. Enjoy the video. Nick

RCISFUN

11-23-2008 07:03 AM

RE: RED FLAG

Hey Nick how's it going...

This is the film that is shown at the Wright-Patterson Air force Museum IMAX theater, they had all the pilots who attended the D.O.G.S. show this past August go over to the museum and see this movie.

http://www.movietickets.com/house_de...?house_id=4561

Here is a link to the description

http://www.movietickets.com/movie_de...movie_id=48209

CraigG

11-23-2008 08:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: Billy

I liked the A-10's and the aggressor F-16's

So surprised you would say that Billy:) In fact those are some great Hog shots!

Craig

RCISFUN

11-23-2008 10:44 AM

RE: RED FLAG

Hey Craig
How are the twins running;)

sweetpea01

11-23-2008 12:57 PM

RE: RED FLAG

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ORIGINAL: NickC5FE

I bought this movie in HD about a year ago and i thought it was pretty good. A little corny in spots, mostly due to the "tool" they decided to be their pilot to follow. The coolest i thought was the CSAR portion that showed the downed aircrew member and how a situation like that is resolved. It brings back memories from S.E.R.E training. Enjoy the video. Nick

Most of the reason you get the feeling. That pilot was an F-15C pilot who they took and put in an F-15E for the video. He had no experience with the F-15E mission (bomb dropping, low level etc.) It's a shame they didn't just use the Mudhen's pilot.

David Jackson

11-23-2008 01:19 PM

RE: RED FLAG

I have this film as part of my Warbird DVD collection. I must say, it is my favorite.

B1Driver

11-23-2008 02:41 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Love the flare usage during the "dogfight"...couldn't finish it, the gayness was spewing.

AndyAndrews

11-23-2008 04:05 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Thanks for sharing that. It was probably the single coolest vid I have ever seen on the net. I really needed to see this video during these times where hate mongering people are constantly bashing Americans and trying to make us feel inferior. This was awe inspiring and watching it makes me respect the fine men and women who lay their lives down every day to protect our country.

Thank you to all who serve or have served our country in the miltary.

Andy

Doug Cronkhite

11-23-2008 04:28 PM

RE: RED FLAG

I found it unwatchable. I would have preferred an actual documentary on Red Flag exercises to that Hollywood-ized mess.

SDCrashmaster

11-23-2008 04:46 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Check out Billy's Hawg Gun;)
[link=http://www.ca-jets.com/Theater/theater2/movies/BillysGun.wmv]Billy's Gun [/link]

seanreit

11-23-2008 04:48 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Billy's my "Daddy"

COOL!!

sweetpea01

11-23-2008 07:57 PM

RE: RED FLAG

I think what you find is the "General Public" like the movie.

Those of us in the Military found it full of the typical hype and crap and not realistic at all.

Its all in what you don't know that makes it good

Mark Basel

11-23-2008 09:14 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Threshold is my favorite video, spectacular inflight video of the F-4J Blue Angels. Some of the narration is cheezy but you quickly ignore the talk because the inflight video from the cockpit is so good.

AndyAndrews

11-23-2008 11:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: sweetpea01

I think what you find is the "General Public" like the movie.

Those of us in the Military found it full of the typical hype and crap and not realistic at all.

Its all in what you don't know that makes it good

You guys are jaded. I still liked it.

Doug Cronkhite

11-24-2008 12:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mark Basel

Threshold is my favorite video, spectacular inflight video of the F-4J Blue Angels. Some of the narration is cheezy but you quickly ignore the talk because the inflight video from the cockpit is so good.

Absolutely, although the Discovery Channel's mini-series "Blue Angel - A Year in the Life" was incredible as well.

Sweatpea01, you hit the nail right on the head. It's the horrible inaccuracies that make this such a poor representation. When I was a kid, I was around Red Flag, and the US Navy Fighter Weapons School a lot due to my father's work with Cubic Corp, and the Tactical Air Crew Training System (Although it was called the ACMR system back then) he designed for them. So when I see movies like this it just makes me cringe. The director apparently LOVED the look of flares, since every aircraft is just crapping them out continuously in nearly every scene.

Andy, I disagree with you in that I'm jaded. Why is it so hard to present things accurately?

Do the men and women who put their lives on the line daily some justice, show them the respect they deserve, and do the damn movie the right way. Of course.. that's just my own jaded opinion.

NickC5FE

11-24-2008 12:20 AM

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Sweetpea, i thought the pilot sucked because of cheesy dialogue. A "Heavy" pilot could have done it better.

ianober

11-24-2008 01:02 AM

RE: RED FLAG

Not bad, I can see what your talking about though Doug. Pretty cheesy, and the CG parts were very "gameish". Some of the raw footage was good though.

sweetpea01

11-24-2008 01:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: NickC5FE

Sweetpea, i thought the pilot sucked because of cheesy dialogue. A "Heavy" pilot could have done it better.

Oh I agree with you on that one.

But part of the reason the dialogue was cheesy was because the pilot didn't know the dialogue. Alot of people think that becuase its an F-15 the "speak" is the same. Its actually quite different because the missions are vastly different. Not only that but the F-15C is an Air-Air fighter while the E is the Air to Ground. If the C could do the E's job then they wouldn't have paid for the aircraft to be changed.

Overall the movie was OK......but more realistic would have been better, but would it have sold?.........probably not.

Mark Basel

11-24-2008 09:43 AM

RE: RED FLAG

That series is really good, the Hornet is superb. I didnt realize they take them from the fleet when they are at about the end of their airframe life cycle and paint them blue.

I have been to a couple of Red Flags way back when. The auditorium scene at the beginning is close but it was more of an orientation and do not do this or else briefing. I remember one Red Flag I went to, F-4E's from St Louis and I believe Indiana were waxing Eagles, there wasnt enough room on the variramp for F-15 kills-it was cool.

Doug, I remember the ACMR pods they would hang on the pylons. You could go watch in real time on a big screen and see what was happening or go to a debrief for your unit and see how your pilots did. It was cool seeing how things went and who was shooting who and how.

AndyAndrews

11-24-2008 11:38 AM

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Sorry, "jaded" wasn't an appropriate choice of a word. I could have made the same comment without saying that. Still, as a civilian, it looked pretty good to me. I think the intended message was relayed fairly well, even though every aspect of it wasn't represented in exact detail. Then again, do you really want your enemies to know EVERY detail of your own taining exercise?? I think not. I think a little obfuscation is good in a video like that to confuse the enemy.

Andy

uncljoe

11-24-2008 11:47 AM

RE: RED FLAG

It's a Hollywood presentation of the world ......[:o] If It were a real presentation " Do you ever think we would go to WAR"again ! I've witnesses the horrors of war,and mans inhumanities, Never wanting to have any of our troops to go in harms way again . In this USA media world we live in, we can't even show the flag draped caskets returning from war, everything must be sugar coated. Its a recruiting advertisement .. Enjoy the Drama,Images and be happy no one was injured making this film.
Semper Fi
Joe

erbroens

11-24-2008 01:55 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Sorry for asking it, but this site don´t let me watch this in my country. Is this the movie with the big guy in the F-15 cockpit yelling "yeah!" ?

Thx in advance, as I prefer to not mask or proxy the IP identity of my connection....

sweetpea01

11-24-2008 03:02 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Sorta. The guy that screams YES was actually the Agressor pilot in an F-16. Its tough to tell who is who as they cut back and forth rather quickly and show the same scenes multiple times to extend the fight.

erbroens

11-24-2008 03:19 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Thx, I saw this movie in a tv showroom here... the flight scenes are nice and the rest, well.. you know.... the important thing as usual is the beauty of flight.

uncljoe

11-24-2008 04:00 PM

RE: RED FLAG

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ORIGINAL: erbroens

Thx, I saw this movie in a tv showroom here... the flight scenes are nice and the rest, well.. you know.... the important thing as usual is the beauty of flight.

Your Right ....
Semper Fi

P. Richards

11-24-2008 04:42 PM

RE: RED FLAG

It's pretty cheesy I paid to see it in IMAX 3D at the Luxor when it was showing in Vegas. I think I got ripped off it was
just a flair show. Now it's been released for regular television and it probably sucks even worse. Just my opinion...

P. Richards aka SwatTeam

F-15J_JSDF

11-24-2008 05:27 PM

RE: RED FLAG

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ORIGINAL: vetagator

This short movie is OFF DA HOOK. Incredible footage. Its about 48 minutes long but awesome.
It features red flag excercises at Nellis AFB. Check it out.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/24197/figh...ation-red-flag

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Yeah Great !

sideshow

11-24-2008 08:34 PM

RE: RED FLAG

I agree with Dougie....kinda. Air Traffic Controllers don't talk that way. It was a lot of hype for the general public. Most of it wasn't needed. Why though is the question....this audience (RCU) is reasonably educated in cinematography (Paul, et al.) and/or military aviation (too numerous to list). I mean a C17 for red flag.....really?.

Just give us the straight poop. For the general public a little sugar is prolly good.

All said....I watched the whole effing thing. Airplane geeks FTMFW.....

YMMV

sweetpea01

11-24-2008 11:09 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Actually RF does have C-17's. They do mock air drops and fly low-level missions. Everything depends on what countries are invited and what units are deployed who are supposed to attend.

When I was flying with the Agressors we tried to find one and shoot it down but instead we ended up with 4 F-16 kills.

B1Driver

11-24-2008 11:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: sideshow

I agree with Dougie....kinda. Air Traffic Controllers don't talk that way. It was a lot of hype for the general public. Most of it wasn't needed. Why though is the question....this audience (RCU) is reasonably educated in cinematography (Paul, et al.) and/or military aviation (too numerous to list). I mean a C17 for red flag.....really?.

Just give us the straight poop. For the general public a little sugar is prolly good.

All said....I watched the whole effing thing. Airplane geeks FTMFW.....

YMMV

You'd be surprised at all the different types of airframes that participate at RF.....and flying at the same time..

Luis

erbroens

11-25-2008 02:21 AM

RE: RED FLAG

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Yeah Great !

For people wanting to watch this outside the U.S. region :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxqTM...eature=related

Enrique

sideshow

11-25-2008 02:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: sweetpea01
When I was flying with the Agressors we tried to find one and shoot it down but instead we ended up with 4 F-16 kills.

LOL

Dig it

11-25-2008 07:52 PM

RE: RED FLAG

Ya, I saw it in the IMAX. Not what I was hoping for. Cool in spots but overall, it seemed to have no energy and the pilot, ya, not the best choice.

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