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Over the last few nights i decided to make some decals for the panels and a few other things to add a bit more detail.

chris

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nice bird. always loved the old a10. anyone want to buy a hirobo scale cobra heli elec conversion. i want to get one of these a10's

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A week to go of mayhem at work and then I can get back into this with a bit more dedication. I am doing bits and pieces and am aiming to have the flaps hinged by the end of the weekend.

Chris,

How are you getting on with the rest of the bits and pieces? I might be needing some of them fairly soon:D

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Chris,

I was just looking at glueing in the tail mounting formers and had a look back through the thread at the pics you posted earlier. On that post was this comment

Could you please explain this to me?

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Hey Sic

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, i have been extremely busy the last 3 weeks. I have not had much time to finish those pylons and that is the only thing i need to finish to get the rest of your things out. I am seeing a clearing on tuesday so i am hoping to proceed and finish those molds up. Sorry for the delay.

As far as the rear wing incodence, the trailing edge of the rear wing will need to go up 3/16" into the fuse. The leading edge will stay flush with the bottom of the fuse. The easiest way to do this, is to put a mark 3/16" up on each side of the trailing edge of the rear wing saddle on the outside of fuse where the rear wing sits in. You can then take the rear wing end profile, put it up against the side of the fuse at the wing saddle and make sure the leading edge is flush with the bottom of the fuse and the trailing edge lines up with your new mark and then trace the wing profile. You can then router or drum sand it out up to the bottom of that line on both sides of the saddle. I then take a piece of 60 or 80 grit sandpaper and put it on the top side of the rear wing and use it for the final touch to get it to fit perfect up against the fuse. I found it a little easier to use a light duty contact adhesive to bond sandpaper to the rear wing so it does not move all over the place when you do the final sanding. This is easily removed with a little heat and when you peal the sandpaper off it can be wiped up with thinners. I also put a mark 3/16" up on the inside trailing edge flange of the saddle on the fuse, so when i am refitting it as i am sanding , i know when i am on my mark. Make sure you install the formers in the rear wing section before you do all this, you will have a better result. You will also want to fillet your glue along the inside of the thin ply strips and fuse that go across the saddle area. This will give you a larger bonded area between the fuse skin and the 2 thin pieces of ply that run parallel from leading edge to trailing edge without having any voids after sanding tis area out. All this is easier than it sounds. Hope this does not sound to technical. If you have any more questions about it just let me know. I will try and post some pics today of where i marked it out.

thanks
chris

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Sic
Here is a pic of what it should look like when you use the rear wing to trace the profile. Pic one you will mark up 3/16". Then just trace the profile to that point. Like i was saying, install the formers first beforehand.

chris

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Sic, yours is already cut. Don't cut it again. We did that before we shipped it.
We went through all of the kits before we shipped them out from RC JETS DIRECT. The kits we have left in inventory are also ready to go with all the modifications done.
Hope this helps,
Lowell

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Hey Ty

These are a starting point for control surface throws.

elevator - 3/4" up 1/2" down @ 0 degrees rear wing
aileron - 3/4" up and down
takeoff flap - 5/8" down / landing flap 1-1/2" down
rudder - 1/2" left & right

Hope to see you flying in a few weeks. Make sure you get us some video.

thanks
chris

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Any updates on availability of retracts or suggestions on which units to use?
Thanks
Tommy

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Hi Tommy
Retracts are $400.00. Let me know when you need them and i will get them on order.

thanks
chris

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For all those that have recieved a kit from John and Lowell, i have a template for the mains wheel fairings for the gear doors that i have made. If you are wanting to put the doors on, you can pm me (hopefully you have not cut this area out yet) and i will get you the template and doors with detail sent out to you.

thanks
chris

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Ty sent me some pics of his A10 and thought i would post them. He should be flying in a few weeks.
Lookin good Ty.


chris

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Gear door detail goes as follows

1- line up skin on back side of detail while holding up to a light until even around all edges
2- trace skin onto detail piece
3- sand skin and thick CA glue the inside of the detail where it makes contact and let set up
4- trim back detail plastic to skin. I used scissors to get most of it then belt sander and file and sandpaper for touch up

chris

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Hi Tommy

Here is the answer for whoever wants to know retracts and struts for the A10

Robart:

mains- http://robart.com/RoboStruts/500_Series.aspx 1/2" struts part# 670
http://robart.com/retracts/12-24lb630.aspx 85 deg. retract mechanism only part# 631rs or mechanism with strut part#631

nose- http://robart.com/RoboStruts/440_Series.aspx 7/16" strut part# 661r
http://robart.com/retracts/12-24lb630.aspx 90deg. retract mechanism part# 638rs


Airpower:

mains- http://www.airpowernet.com/twe3/prod...roducts_id=286 1/2" mains struts
nose- http://www.airpowernet.com/twe3/prod...roducts_id=262 nose strut

I have not tried the airpower struts but these are the sizes that would be best for the setup, they also look nicer than the robart struts.
I have tried the airpower retract mechanism and personally i choose robart over them because the airpower seem to have more slop in them. Another thing is that i dont think airpower sells a 85 degree mechanism in which you will need for the setup on the mains. That would be 85 degree down. All in all you will need to purchase the robart mechanisms but can use either strut.

If you ordered a kit i can save you about $100 on a robart setup compared to buying them yourself. It would come with the air kit. Trying to pass some savings to you.

thanks
chris

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Tommy

Retracts are in stock. Let me know when you would like to order them.

thanks
chris

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Hey Ty

Here are a few pics for decal placement. I will post some more tonight. I am not sure if these are some kind of reflector or what but they go on the verticle stab ,left and right side of fuse under canopy area, wingtips ,under rear wing and top of fuse behind canopy.

chris

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Chris,
I sent you a PM. I am out of the office tomorrow so it may be Monday before i can get back to you. I want to speak for a set.
Thanks
Tommy

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Chris-

They're formation lights. They're controlled from within the cockpit via a riostat (dimmer-brighter). In real life, they're kind of a lime-green color.

Brg,
Mark

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Hi Mark
Thanks for the info. I am in contact with a crew member and i was going to email him and ask him but you beat me to it.

thanks
chris

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Little more reference for the decals. Dispenser decals. A1 A2 B1 B2 etc.

chris

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ground or earth decals on nose, side of wheel fairing and on top of the wing between slat and wheel fairing. Also the star on tip top of wheel fairing.

chris

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fragile do not impact decal on strake, apu exhaust decal, some decals by pavepenny and bottom of engine nacelle hatch decal.

Make note on some of these pics there are hatches that you will find in the decals. I guess you will just have to match them and see where they go. I have spent endless hours looking at thosands of pics of this plane so i hope these pics save you some time.

chris

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targets 2 on top of fuse and 2 on inner portion of wings. No step decals on slats, top part of all 4 flap wells (not on flaps). This A10 went a little overboard. I dont include that many no step decals.


chris

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Note:

Before i forget ,the decals have an instruction sheet with them and will need to be sealed with clear coat before they are cut out and used. I am working on getting a laser printer in which this will not be needed, but until then, they will need to be sealed with a couple coats.

chris

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Hi Chris,
I was out of the country at work & couldn't get to a post before the other fella described the "formation lights". Yea, pale greenish when turned on and used for night close formation. Unlike standard rotating beacon or position lights that can give away your position to an enemy, these are not visible to another aircraft or ground personel from any distance away.

That picture of what you describe as "targets" on the inner wing and center fusalage are over wing refueling caps. Red with a red ring around them. The plane is normally refueled by single point refueling and not overwing.

Cheers,
Mike Warren