The x-factor would be a better option just because it has a 4-link suspension and a bigger(torquey) motor. Just use savage stub axles on the x-factor and you can run any maxx size tires, my sugestion would be 40s and either of the treads they offer for them. You really dont even need a good cyl. head unless you need to lean it out for more power, but it should have the grunt. Definatley go up 7-8 teeth on the spur, or use a savage spur and stock clutch. Talk to dirk diggler he has a rock x-fac.

for rock crawing i'd get the x-factor all the way, because of the height it has

actually switching to the maxx hex's will cause your tires to strip out. no reason to waste rims eh?

c'mon now, the guy asked which truck for rock crawling....and you guys went on to argue which is faster etc....is speed even important for "crawling"??? how about just giving your input to help the guy out....rather than criticizing everything the guy after you had said...skate, get both and tell us about them ...j/k...I think Xfactor is a better crawler skate, but then again, somebody says the madforce beat the Xfactor in RCCA, but you also have to consider the skills of the driver.

u guys are funny....u always fight....skate i think the madforce is good too and also if u are considering speed its faster too cuz it has a 3speed

my b skate seriously though its the x-factor its got more articulationand (like someone said earlir ) height

x-factor for crawling.....go to the x-factor fourms talk to the easy mods to do and there ya go you got your self a crawler.....

lol...There are several reasons why i want my forum back up. This type of thread is one of those reasons. I've owned a mad force, its pretty nice, and durable. Do i think its nearly as functional as a rock climber? No, not ever, not compared to the TXT's, and the X factor.

Matt

Thermal, I'm planning to get a MAD FORCE, GOOD IDEA??? Do you know if I would be able to put 8 Shocks in the regular MADFORCE like in the RCX edition?

All you need are the added shock mounts. The Mad force is a great truck but not a real crawler. This thread shouldn't be this long.