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As an unbiased take on nitrous if you check the latest edition of Xtreme RC Cars we did a test on the kit. Results were pretty surprising.

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Ok, things have slowed a bit. Back to the grind:

Silverman: thanks for the suggestion, but as I answered your previous post, I have done the testing and for me, that's good enough. Who ever else wants to test the unit is free to buy one from whatever source they choose. I am just relaying my test resulkts and experience.

69GTO: I saw I accidentally answered some of your question in my previous reply to Lloyd. I do not adjust my HSN valve at all when I install the N2O kit. With that said, I do not run my engines at "Race-tune." They are tuned properly, just not on the brink of being considered lean. So it is possible, that using the N2O kit in this condition is leaning out the engine, but still at the point where it is not running in an over-lean condition. As I said, I have taken all the engines apart that run this system and have not seen ANY indication of premature wear.

Your comment about the snowmobiles is right on par with my comment about not much top-end gain. I could see how the full potential of the N2O would be retarded by the inability to quickly expell the gases. Like I said before, the top-end gain is not that much, but getting there is accomplished MUCH faster.

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Derek, which issue would that be? I have since January here and couldn't find the article...

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That is funny as crap! :):) Heck, I'll take two of those....no test needed. I like that.

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C2 first of all let me tell you, I really do appreciate you taking the time to awnser some of these questions. Secondly I have to say I have to respect you for this comment right here....

Reason why is I have seen "reps" from companys come on sites before (mostly 1:1 hot rod/drag race sites) and make claims as to their product and even after valid points about how their product might not be completely what is claimed to the fullest, they have replied with snide remarks that tried to fool people to think their product will be the only product that makes the most power through out the entire RPM range. So I really do give you respect for your statement that there is a slight area where the product is limited.

With that said I will be honest. Given my experiances with Nitrous on full size cars and also with guys that have put 30hp kits on their snowmobiles, I will admit that I am still a bit skeptical about how much power this will produce on a RC motor as well as the affects it could have on the duribility of the motor. You do seem to be an honest person with a good knowledge of which you speak though and I can respect that and keep an open mind. I still have my doubts, but I will continue to follow this thread and keep an open mind to your replys.

Thanks

Steve

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Steve,

Thanks for the comments. I just wanted to share with others my experience with the N2O kits. I love the replies it has gotten....so full of energy! That's what I like about this hobby.

I have always tried to keep an open mind about things and learn as much as I can. You can't be closed minded or talk out-of-turn about things you don't have a clue about. I think my favorite posts have been "The Hellfire" is the best truck out right now!" and "The wipe cream bottles that these silly kits use are classified a dangerous goods and can not be shipped legaly in the mail."

I will continue to answer any questions people have about N2O.....if I can't answer them, I will defer them to G1GY who obviously has a better set-up! :D

I will try to get the video finished up by this weekend. Still not as good as seeing it in person.

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Some replys you can do nothing but take in stride and press on;) people that have experiance with certian things will always be easy to spot.

One other thing I have to ask, and if it has been asked already forgive me, but has there been any actual "hard numbers" test of this on any type of dyno or other testing device by your company?

I know RC dynos are extremly unreliable from what I have heard so that may not be a acurate judge of numbers to base anything on, but I am just wondering if there has been any attempts.

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G1GY's kit will work probably as good as the kit you have c2 and taste better too, I have no questions for you c2 because we have played around with this stuff in the past and all it ever did is EAT glow plugs/hurt parts... but hey what do I know, I only use multi stage nitrous on $15000 dollar blower engines, I am sure you have all the answers being that you use a "DRY" nitrous kit on a toy truck. IF you had a "WET" kit, this way might make power and then needing to use a heavy element race plug and hoping you dont suck the coil element through the engine. It's easy... you want more power from a nitro engine... up the percent% of nitro and you can have "nitrous power" for a full tank of fuel. I would suggest that anyone that thinks that they are getting more power from one of these dry spray kits are only seeing/hearing the engine LEAN OUT as it excellerates/gets on the pipe and the engine leaning out is the only place any extra power maybe coming from.

I have seen all types of nitrous kits for 2 stroke "GAS" engines from a few companys... NONE... make a dry spray kit that I have seen for any 2 stroke gas engine.

Fact is you must use fedex, ups or dhl with the proper dg tags which can add to the cost and make it more of a headache to ship/get in some areas. My wife works for cnd post and the odd time they have had to deal with idiots trying to ship these "silly a... wipe cream bottles" (btw thats a j/k) in the mail.
http://www.bestwhip.com/index.php?ma...19dd41c30bb60f

I would suggest just to make your own kit... its cheap

http://www.bestwhip.com/


FYI, NOS made a dry spray (4 stroke) car kit "sneaky pete" that is sprayed out side the engine, misted over the carb... the kit is a joke compared to ANY REAL wet nitrous kit. If I remember correct this "sneaky pete" kit had warnings on it to run the engine on the rich side because it could make the engine lean out. Leaning out a 2 stroke can hurt it much more easly than any 4 stroke.

This NX company is a fairly new company... after seeing this wonderfully designed pos... there products scare me. I wonder what kind of brain surgens they have working there???.:D:eek::D:eek::D:eek:

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Boss,
Thanks for your input. If I ever need advices on N2O for $15,000 blower engines, you will be the FIRST person I contact. For now I will stick with these pos kits on toy trucks. I'll stock up on glow plugs....waiting for that first one to go.

69GTO,
No dyno has been used, that I am aware of. I am hoping that DerekBuono replies with Xtreme's analysis. I would like to see the results of their tests.

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Page 208 of the January Issue. There's a Mugen MTX4 on the cover (Pink and white).

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I forgot to mention there are dyno results with two different times of "spraying." The issue should be at Hobby Shops soon and in subscribers hands daily.

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I am looking forward to that. Thanks for the heads up Derek. Did they evaluate the Whip Cream cans also?? Otherwise I wouldn't call it a very fair comparison :D

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Have we an online article for those not inclined to purchase.... :D

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OK, I blew a plug today....and I didn't have another cold plug on hand to replace it with, so I used an OS 8. We'll see how long that lasts. NX is pretty specific about using a cold glow plug. Also, these new cartridges I'm runnning do not seem to last as long as the ones that come from NX. I only seem to be getting just under 1 tank. The NX cartridges gave me a little over 2.

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Hey guys I had nitrous and a supercharger in my Nitro Sport with a Traxxas 2.5R and I was trying to go as fast as i could and i was doing about 70 and i blew up my engine so i took out the parts and sold them to my local hobby show for $350

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I see you're in the UK, I may put this article up online, but there were some other issues that incline me not to...so maybe somebody will scan it for you.

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All this laughing GAS talk has inspired me to try and design my own gas kit again to sell to the R/C masses. I have a bit more R&D to do but I can give some hints to my power adder R/C kit. I suspect that my R/C power adder kit should retail for only around $100 cnd which is much cheaper AND the big bonus of my system will be that you can refill your own bottle at HOME!!!... at NO EXTRA COST to you after you purchase my power adder kit. This is much cheaper and easyer to use than the R/C Nitrous Express kit or the R/C nitrous kit that came before it that Extreme Mag tested before it. Here are just a few teazer pics of some of my kits componets for now (eg, the control board and bottle). I will have more vids and pics soon.

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BTW, there is a web site with ALL the hard FACTS and TECH info of my system which has some powerfull testing on it allready and should anwser any questions r/c customers should have. http://farts.netcarver.com/index2.htm

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Yes ive never seen your mag in our shops, but would still be interested knowing the results. Maybe just the results instead of a whole article might be able to get through. Or equally if anybody has got the article and wouldnt mind scanning it in then that would be much appreciated

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I HIGHLY advise everyone interested in Nitrous, for or against, to go get the current issue of Xtreme RC Cars (Jan issue). It has a VERY good article on the NX nitrous system. It is on page 208 of the magazine. In fairness to magazine sales, I will not copy anything in the artilce until I get the OK from Derek. Or he may decide to past the article. All I'll say is they did a thorough short-term test.

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Man, this thread got quiet....any comments on the article, or anyone who does not have access to it??

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The article is actually now posted on our website

http://www.rc411.com/pages/scopes.php?scope=28&page=1

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Why would someone want to put a drag race hop up on an off-road racer? And why would you point everyone to an article that says That pretty much says what almost everyone else on this board has said already. No offense, but it's no wonder the thread got quiet.

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It also shows a 30% increase in power. Meaning some people may take a reduction in longevity for power increase. The debate was if it works and our dyno data shows that it does.