Not quite that high on the specks. You can read hear. I am sure some of you got this.
http://rctech.net/forum/showthread.p...threadid=47677

The reason everyone are on 4 strokes is, The factories are pushing guys to ride them, soon that's all you will be able to buy.
The full EPA restrictions come into play in '08,,the lawn mower you can buy will have to be a 4 stroke too

Ok so I got mixed up with the specs, but if you read into the thread a bit you will find that his dyno reads very low and that the highest power figures he has pulled from a .12 is .78 hp...

Comparing this to the O.S. FS engine shows some very impressive power outputs...

what about weed eaters? is this going to apply to 1/5 gas cars too?

it's REALLY impressive, considering he hasn't messed with cam profiles at all.

the RB Superchargers arnt that great on 2 strokes but imagine what they could do on a 4 stroke. Supercharge a 4 stroke and you got jsut as much power as a 2stroke of same size.

They did turn a decent 25,000 rpm, which is pretty good.

And back to the comp cams, or even crane cams, would be pretty cool to see those in there

Well, this is certainly true. In the ATV market, 2 strokes are all but eliminated due to the CPSC and other tree hugging associations.

Nonetheless, I am still a big 4-stroke fan, and I think that 4 stroke technology is getting good enough to see some impressive 4-stroke power output. I will agree it is hard to beat cheap 2-stroke power though.

Not sure but I wouldn't put it past the EPA to ban them

There is/was a new 2 stroke design going around. I read about them in MotoX Action mag, they were 2 strokes but they ran on only fuel, oil circulated similar to the way a 4 stroke would. Interesting article, but I can't seem to find one similar online.

I've heard about that too. I think Suzuki experimented with 'em back around the same day of the RE5 (the crappy rotary bike)
How did Yamaha get the RZ350 (the 80s 2 stroke with essentially a Banshee engine) past the Eco-terrorists anyway?

I read something about honda developing some 2 stroke motor that doesn't burn oil, can't remember how the lubrication system worked, but apparently it had emmisions comparable to a 4 stroke....EAT THAT TREEHUGGERS!!

They've all experimented with 2 cycle direct injection, but they still get to much unburned gas out the pipe to make them pass the pending EPA emissions standards.
4-cycle is it for the forseeable future,

46u, you forget about "old" stuff
if they ban 2 stroke dirtbikes, that's all i'll buy from now on just to peeve the Sierra Club (my beat up old Isuzu Trooper with no catalytic converter said "THE SIERRA CLUB CAN EAT IT" on the tailgate)

i'll just run my old KD80N1.. .that thing is a serious FOGGER since it needs a new piston/rings set lol.

I guess you guys haven't lived anywhere with serious air pollution problems. It's one thing to complain about overzealous banning of 2 strokes and etc, it's something entirely different to go out about pollute just to be anal.

The irony of banning 2cycle motorcycle and outboard boat engines is it eliminates pollution where there isn't a pollution problem,, 2 cycle bikes and boats don't operate in the cities,, they run out in the deserts and mountains. the ban on those types of engines will make no difference in the dense urban areas where smog is a problem.

Here in LA the air was getting better, but the influx of so many people and their cars is defeating the EPAs efforts to clean up the air.

If every one that drive to work every day by them self in there gas guzzling SUV and big cars where made to ride a motorcycle like I do then this would help out a hick of a lot more then what few 2 stokes are out there! May I ask what you drive to work every day?

Haha, I agree. Everyone needs a crotch rocket!

I do not ride a sports bike but I do ride 18,000 miles a year and in the last 3 and half years been in 41 states and 2 pieces of Canada. July 2 I will be riding from Georgia to Alaska and back. I do like all types of motorcycles just for what I do a sports bike will not work. I assure you I put out less pollution the any car or truck! Enough about motorcycles as I could go on about them for years. Matter of fact I have for over 35 years.

Nice HD, ours is blue, same bike too, except 05 model.

nice ride 46u, everybodys been ridin up here and mine is still in storage (not by choice) probably till late summer. you ought to ride up here sometime and go to laconia

Mine is 02 bought it new and now have over 60,000 miles on it. Come ride with me to Alaska in July. I make my living working on them for over 30 years.

I have ridden in your state and it is beautiful! Hope to be back one day.

come on up we'll have ya