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Old 08-10-2011, 07:00 AM
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Does anyone know what equipment the competitors used at the recent F3A World Championships in Muncie? I'm interested in knowing which airplane, engine, and RC system each competitor used. This used to be posted in various places, but I haven't seen anything like this, yet. Is there a list posted where you can just put up a link?

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Old 08-10-2011, 08:14 AM
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Hi Bill:
From the LOT of pictures of the WCh2011, I made my own list of the Pilots-Planes-Engine-motor combos, as good as I can.
Probably has a LOT of errors, all of them unwanted. And apologize for them.
Now corrected and completed with all new data.
If someone want the Excel file, just ask for it.
Regards.
Jorge Feliu

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Num Competitor Pais Plane 1 Plane 2 Motor 1 Motor 2 Mode .Miscelaneous Data
1 MARTINEZ Santiago ECU Wind S Axi Futaba 12Z spin 99 jeti PT 21x14. Carbon
2 HUANG Zhendi CHN
3 DANKSAGMUELLER Helmut AUT Andastra
4 NIETO Daniel ARG RGB Cation YS170 Neu
5 LEGA Armando COL De Ja Vu Hacker Q80 Castle 80 - Futaba Servos and TX
6 ZHANG Xujun CHN Mid Rex
7 DART Paul AUS
8 HOYLAND Matt GBR Wind S Wind S Elec Elec
9 COLOMBO Marcelo ARG De Ja Vu Hacker Q80
10 CORAM Steve AUS Zeque Zeque OS200FI OS200FI
11 BALFOUR Angus IRL Valiant ContraRot Neu JR
12 AHO-MANTILA Antti FIN
13 SELVA Massimo SMR Wind S Wind S ContraRot
14 ONDA Tetsuo JPN Asyuler Mono Asyuler Bi YS 175 CDI YS 175 1 Futaba 14MZ 20.5x10APC
15 WEI YI Hung TPE Altair 200 Fuel
16 MENDONCA Mark TRI Insight RC Pentathalon Evo YS160 YS160 Futaba Tx-servos
17 STOHR Martin VEN Super Taiji YS 170 DZ JR 9503 2.4GHz
18 NURILA Lassi FIN
19 LAU Andy HKG
20 RESENDE Marcos BRA Future 2
21 DUAN Zhiyong CHN
22 PENG Louis HKG Neptuno Elec
23 HUEB Carlos BRA Genesis Elec
24 VAGHY Dezso CAN Prestige
25 WICKIZER Brett USA Valiant Valiant YS 175 CDI YS 175 CDI Futaba
26 RUBIN Marc SUI Axiome +
27 MANCHENO Ney ECU Visa Visa Hacker. A60 Hacker. A60 Futaba 14MZ. Spin 99. 21 x 14 rasa carbon
28 MATT Wolfgang LIE Peridot Amethiist Hacker Q80
29 JI HO Park ROK Pegasus ph II
30 MENDONCA Adam TRI Oxai Aries7 YS170CDI Futaba Tx-servos
31 MARAIS Pierre <font siz
Old 08-10-2011, 08:16 AM
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All modifications will be made in the list, so not to repeat every time.
You are seeing the last updated, as indicated in bottom,
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For Colombia:

Marcelo Velez # 80 ZN Line Xigris C1 - Plettenberg 30-10 - Schulze 32.80 KA - BLS servos - JR TX
Federico Hinestrosa # 39 CARF Integral - Hacker Q80 - Jeti opto 99 - JR Servos and TX
Armando Lega # 5 Ca Models De-Ja-Vu - Hacker Q80 - Castle 80 - Futaba Servos and TX

if you can drop me the xls file would be neat... [email protected] please also send me your contact data so we can mail you some info about the PAC (panamerican F3A championship)

By the way some comments:

Daniel Nieto from Argentina flew his own design: RGB with a YS 170
Marcelo Colombo flew with a 20 pole Hacker Q80 not sure i remember his ESC
Mark Byrne from Canada flew with a Plett advance and YGE controller all futaba gear
Bothe Alejandro Pereira as well as Carlos silva from Venezuela flew with YS 170
Gunthe rUlsamer flew his Opium with a hacker Q 80
Zarko Ohad flew a YS 170 powered Axiome (not totally shure even though he flew just after me)

see you!

Marcelo Velez


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Venezuela Tuny & Alejandro Flew YS 170CDI both Futaba 12Z
Martin YS170 glow JR 9103

France all YS175CDI and Futaba 14MZ
Onda YS175
Suzuki OS200CDI
Hatta Hacker all Futaba 14MZ
Brett YS175CDI
Andrew Hacker
Chip Neu All Futaba

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Alejandro P.
Old 08-10-2011, 06:37 PM
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Off the top of my head.

Brett YS 175 CDI ?
CPLR YS 175 CDI 21 x 10 APC
BPLR YS 175 CDI 21 x 10 APC
ONDA YS 175 CDI 20.5 x 10 APC
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ORIGINAL: apereira

Venezuela Tuny & Alejandro Flew YS 170CDI both Futaba 12Z
Martin YS170 glow JR 9103

France all YS175CDI and Futaba 14MZ
Onda YS175
Suzuki OS200CDI
Hatta Hacker all Futaba 14MZ
Brett YS175CDI
Andrew Hacker
Chip Neu All Futaba

Regards

Alejandro P.
Are you sure Hatta flew Futaba? He is a JR pilot as far as I know, unless he switched recently...
Old 08-10-2011, 07:02 PM
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Hatta flew a JR 12x radio. check my photos in this form, an look at the picture.
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Hi, the modifications are in the original list, not to repeat every time.
Thanks to all for the contribution.
Also I included the last column with flyMode, but few data.....
Some of yours were there, so: Glow/Electric, .... ¿20/80; 30/70 %?
Jorge Feliu

Old 08-11-2011, 12:54 PM
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I stand corrected as Jarvis said about Hatta.

Jorge, my motor 2 is Hacker C50, and we estimated there was about 35%YS in this WC. Some pilots returned from electric to YS we were told there, don't have a list, sorry.

Regards

Alejandro P.
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Hi,

Anyone heard why some choose to come back from electric to glow (YS) engine?

/Bo
Old 08-11-2011, 09:05 PM
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Anyone heard why some choose to come back from electric to glow (YS) engine?


I am also interested in this question as I am about to jump ship from glow to electric but noticed same as above observation........think i'll just stick around and wait a little longer
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What i observed was that two pilots from team Switzerland and btw high placed 27th and 17th who used to fly E-Power they made the switch to Glow and both were flying Axiome+`s with YS.

Actually it would be interesting indeed to know why they opted to go back to Glow power?.

It looks from the videos that the YS 175 CDI is monster..!! and runs very smoothly and allows you to spin up to 21` props and inturn you can fly very very slow and i mean E-power SLOW..!!,heck i can`t wait for it to be available for purchase.
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hhm ,, what videos !! gimsace
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ORIGINAL: GiMsAcE

What i observed was that two pilots from team Switzerland and btw high placed 27th and 17th who used to fly E-Power they made the switch to Glow and both were flying Axiome+`s with YS.

Actually it would be interesting indeed to know why they opted to go back to Glow power?.

It looks from the videos that the YS 175 CDI is monster..!! and runs very smoothly and allows you to spin up to 21` props and inturn you can fly very very slow and i mean E-power SLOW..!!,heck i can`t wait for it to be available for purchase.

Wellperhaps its has to do with the fact that with a YSCDi you are burning off the fuel reducing the weight and improving flight performance through the schedule.
With E-power you have the batteries there all the time, weight is a constant but the fuel flow is regrading hence reducing flight performance through the schedule.

Im sure the planes are spec'd to account for that so I'm just throwing that out there
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I think the YS175 is more powerful than any electric, unless compared to the new Q80 which seems to be the only close to it, and there is something interesting, the French and Japanese were using 20% nitro, not 30%, now that is power, I guess 30% will be more power than anyone might need, and, they were not using full power!!

Probably the switch is due to the F schedules, you can not fly the F on a 4400mAh battery and expect to have the same power at the end of the sequence, where you can with YS, if my memory is not wrong, Andrew was flying with 5300mAh batteries on the finals(Andrew correct me if I'm wrong), of course he did not have weight problems, but not all can do that.

BTW, in my opinion, Andrew won the Unk #1 hands down, very very impressive, flawless, he was the only pilot to fly the sequence with absolutely no errors, we were actually joking saying we all needed to change our names and have European last names to get better scores.

Andrew Jesky flew with world champion level, same goes for Chip, it is a shame I have not seen a note to congratulate them, Brett flights were also incredible, my congratulations to all of them!!

Alejandro P.
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yes I suspect the F schedules has something to do with the switch. Also the YS175CDi I amgine would enable a very low idle which was not achievable with just a glow plug. Could the lower idle have an impact on the downlines and using the prop as a brake more effectively than before?
I guess more controllable throttle, more reliable low idle all make for a engine that allows the benefits of an electric without carrying the weight throughout the flight.
I'd be dead keen to see if gasoline makes an appearance in F3A in the next year. Quieting them is not so difficult anylonger and I suppose it jsut takes someone who is dedicated to make it work
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For team Trinidad/Tobago - TRI

Mark Mendonca - Insight RC Pentathalon Evo, YS160, Futaba Tx/servos
Adam Mendonca - Oxai Aries7, YS 170CDI, Futaba Tx/servos
Colin Chariandy - ZN Xigris C1, Plettenberg EVO 30-10/Jetti 90, JR Tx/Futaba Servos.

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The idle on the 170CDI and the 175CDI is identical, but as you mentioned the braking of the bigger prop is greater, and the engine is very smooth, the thing on YS is you can add 2 clicks of power during a roll and you can fell it locks the plane, when on the electric you need to go way past 1/4 throttle to do the same, I do have an Amethyst with a Hacker C50-14XL Comp, so I can assure you there is a difference, I did not liked the way the electric responds, anybody can get used to it, but YS to me is better, and easier to control.

One thing nobody mentions is, there was an YS leaning out and it stopped during the F of a Swiss, but on the other hand an electric caught fire and was a total loss, and not mentioning the amount of batteries destroyed in Muncie due to the extreme hot weather.

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Hi Torben here are some videos of the top pilots from the Worlds in Muncie, many thanks to this guy for taking his time and filming some nice flights in Muncie,here the link: http://www.youtube.com/user/josephchou5917
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hi
super thanks
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Thanks Colin.
List corrected.
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Thanks for starting this thread! It is good to see what everyone used. As for me it was hacker C50-14XL and castle ice 80HV controller, Falcon 20x15 prop. Thunder power 10s 5000 mah 25c packs.

Alejandro,
Thanks for the comments, I really had fun flying in the finals and all pilots flew really good. In the finals I ended up using the 5000mah packs just due to the fact I had only been pulling about 4000mah out per flight. In utah I was using more battery and was concerned I would not have enough power in the wind but that wasn't any issue.

Andrew
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Ecuador:
Pablo Kuri. Wind s. Plettemberg 30 10 . Futaba 12 Z. Spin 99 jeti. PT 21x14. Carbon.
Santiago Martinez. Wind s. Axi. Futaba 12Z spin 99 jeti PT 21x14. Carbon
Ney Mancheno. Visa. Hacker. A60 futaba 14. Spin 99. 21 x 14 rasa carbon

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I am pilot # 17 from the Venezuela team. My plane was the world model "Super Taiji". My radio was a JR 9503, 2.4. My engine was a YS 170DZ.

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