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Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
02-21-2005 | 02:52 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
If I remember correctly Chip flew single stick with a Futaba 512 TX. When they made the Futaba 1024 TX it was not available as a single stick so he then flew competition with the 2 stick TX.
08-30-2006 | 02:01 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
Out of curiousity, is there any way to change the mode of a tx? Say, from mode 2 to mode 1? I guess you could just plug your rudder servo up to the aileron channels, and so on and so forth. Might lose some programming capability designed specifically for either aileron or rudder though.
08-30-2006 | 03:09 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
Dunno about others, but JR9Xii (9303 in USA?) is simplicity itself---you just select the mode in the programming, and move the throttle leaf spring(choice of two---click/no click) from one gimbal to the other.
08-30-2006 | 05:12 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
So this means I can change out the ratcheting mechanism too yes? For instance, I could order the heli ratcheting thingie to replace the airplane ratcheting thingie, and thus have the smoother movements yes?
Thingie is, by the way, a very technical, jargon-steeped term!
Thingie is, by the way, a very technical, jargon-steeped term!
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Forgot to add: and the coil spring from one gimbal to the other one.
Forgot to add: and the coil spring from one gimbal to the other one.
08-31-2006 | 03:03 AM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
So this means I can change out the ratcheting mechanism too yes? For instance, I could order the heli ratcheting thingie to replace the airplane ratcheting thingie, and thus have the smoother movements yes?
(The Tx I have here had the smooth one already installed, and the ratchety one was a spare in the foam box it came in.)
08-31-2006 | 08:45 AM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
Awesome. I'm going to try putting my aileron on the left stick and the rudder on the right (throttle/aileron and elevator/rudder).
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Yes.
(The Tx I have here had the smooth one already installed, and the ratchety one was a spare in the foam box it came in.)
Yes.
(The Tx I have here had the smooth one already installed, and the ratchety one was a spare in the foam box it came in.)
08-31-2006 | 10:30 AM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
OK, quick check. What are the modes?
---------- Left stick-----------Right stick
Mode 1: Elevator/Rudder, Throttle/Aileron
Mode 2: Throttle/Rudder, Elevator/Aieron
Mode 3: Throttle/Aileron, Elevator/Rudder?
Mode 4: Elevator/Aileron, Throttle/Rudder?
When I was in Japan, I flew a foamie on Mode 3? (Thr/Ail, Elv/Rud) which wasn't too bad. At least if I started flying Mode 2 it was just a rudder turn. While I was at the Nall, I got to fly a 3.3 Yak that was Mode 1? (Elv/Rud, Thr/Ail) and was able to so ok with it. That's what the "happy" pic in the MA was... but we were all laughing cause I think at the time I reverted back to Mode 2. Very fast dive with a very big plane is funny... when it's not yours. Guess it's what you're used to.
---------- Left stick-----------Right stick
Mode 1: Elevator/Rudder, Throttle/Aileron
Mode 2: Throttle/Rudder, Elevator/Aieron
Mode 3: Throttle/Aileron, Elevator/Rudder?
Mode 4: Elevator/Aileron, Throttle/Rudder?
When I was in Japan, I flew a foamie on Mode 3? (Thr/Ail, Elv/Rud) which wasn't too bad. At least if I started flying Mode 2 it was just a rudder turn. While I was at the Nall, I got to fly a 3.3 Yak that was Mode 1? (Elv/Rud, Thr/Ail) and was able to so ok with it. That's what the "happy" pic in the MA was... but we were all laughing cause I think at the time I reverted back to Mode 2. Very fast dive with a very big plane is funny... when it's not yours. Guess it's what you're used to.
08-31-2006 | 11:11 AM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
Oops I got my modes mixed up. Thanks for the clarification! You learn something new everyday... 
Mode 3 is what I wanted to try. Mode 1 wouldn't work with my 9303 anyway because of the single analog trim level for the throttle.
Mode 3 is what I wanted to try. Mode 1 wouldn't work with my 9303 anyway because of the single analog trim level for the throttle.
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OK, quick check. What are the modes?
---------- Left stick-----------Right stick
Mode 1: Elevator/Rudder, Throttle/Aileron
Mode 2: Throttle/Rudder, Elevator/Aieron
Mode 3: Throttle/Aileron, Elevator/Rudder?
Mode 4: Elevator/Aileron, Throttle/Rudder?
When I was in Japan, I flew a foamie on Mode 3? (Thr/Ail, Elv/Rud) which wasn't too bad. At least if I started flying Mode 2 it was just a rudder turn. While I was at the Nall, I got to fly a 3.3 Yak that was Mode 1? (Elv/Rud, Thr/Ail) and was able to so ok with it. That's what the "happy" pic in the MA was... but we were all laughing cause I think at the time I reverted back to Mode 2. Very fast dive with a very big plane is funny... when it's not yours. Guess it's what you're used to.
OK, quick check. What are the modes?
---------- Left stick-----------Right stick
Mode 1: Elevator/Rudder, Throttle/Aileron
Mode 2: Throttle/Rudder, Elevator/Aieron
Mode 3: Throttle/Aileron, Elevator/Rudder?
Mode 4: Elevator/Aileron, Throttle/Rudder?
When I was in Japan, I flew a foamie on Mode 3? (Thr/Ail, Elv/Rud) which wasn't too bad. At least if I started flying Mode 2 it was just a rudder turn. While I was at the Nall, I got to fly a 3.3 Yak that was Mode 1? (Elv/Rud, Thr/Ail) and was able to so ok with it. That's what the "happy" pic in the MA was... but we were all laughing cause I think at the time I reverted back to Mode 2. Very fast dive with a very big plane is funny... when it's not yours. Guess it's what you're used to.
08-31-2006 | 01:33 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
I've read all over the place on this one.
I'm going to try what you describe as mode 4.
I'm going to try what you describe as mode 4.
ORIGINAL: Zaquron
Something is wrong here
Mode 4 is
left stick: aileron/throttle, right stick: elevator/rudder
Something is wrong here
Mode 4 is
left stick: aileron/throttle, right stick: elevator/rudder
08-31-2006 | 03:20 PM
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Some years ago I switched to what I call mode 3 and it matches Jason's description. This is Kristensen's mode.
For some reason though, Futaba designates this as mode 4. I don't care they call it as long as I can get there, and some of the cheapest Futabas have no problem being programmed this way.
Be careful scrolling through the modes. I had a 'woopsie' the other day with an electric!
-Ron
For some reason though, Futaba designates this as mode 4. I don't care they call it as long as I can get there, and some of the cheapest Futabas have no problem being programmed this way.
Be careful scrolling through the modes. I had a 'woopsie' the other day with an electric!
-Ron
08-31-2006 | 03:31 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
You know there is one big problem with flying a different mode:
When you want a pilot better than you to help with your model wether its trimming, or in an emergency you are not going to get the help you need or want.
Then again if you are already the expert then this should not matter.
There have been TOC, Nationals, World Champs flying Mode2, flying Mode1. I don't thing the mode has much to do with the how well you fly just that you do.
When you want a pilot better than you to help with your model wether its trimming, or in an emergency you are not going to get the help you need or want.
Then again if you are already the expert then this should not matter.
There have been TOC, Nationals, World Champs flying Mode2, flying Mode1. I don't thing the mode has much to do with the how well you fly just that you do.
08-31-2006 | 03:44 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
I just want to try different modes to see which I like best.
Mode4 seems most logical to me - group the rudder and elevator on one hand and the aileron and throttle on the other.
Mode4 seems most logical to me - group the rudder and elevator on one hand and the aileron and throttle on the other.
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You know there is one big problem with flying a different mode:
When you want a pilot better than you to help with your model wether its trimming, or in an emergency you are not going to get the help you need or want.
Then again if you are already the expert then this should not matter.
There have been TOC, Nationals, World Champs flying Mode2, flying Mode1. I don't thing the mode has much to do with the how well you fly just that you do.
You know there is one big problem with flying a different mode:
When you want a pilot better than you to help with your model wether its trimming, or in an emergency you are not going to get the help you need or want.
Then again if you are already the expert then this should not matter.
There have been TOC, Nationals, World Champs flying Mode2, flying Mode1. I don't thing the mode has much to do with the how well you fly just that you do.
08-31-2006 | 05:13 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
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Some years ago I switched to what I call mode 3 and it matches Jason's description. This is Kristensen's mode.
For some reason though, Futaba designates this as mode 4. I don't care they call it as long as I can get there, and some of the cheapest Futabas have no problem being programmed this way.
Be careful scrolling through the modes. I had a 'woopsie' the other day with an electric!
-Ron
Some years ago I switched to what I call mode 3 and it matches Jason's description. This is Kristensen's mode.
For some reason though, Futaba designates this as mode 4. I don't care they call it as long as I can get there, and some of the cheapest Futabas have no problem being programmed this way.
Be careful scrolling through the modes. I had a 'woopsie' the other day with an electric!
-Ron
I made the switch about 7 years ago....and have converted a lot of guys to flying that way. I think its a fantastic way to fly for pattern. I am sure it has allowed me to improve in areas that I would not have been able to if flying mode 2....I am just not talented enough to fly as good with mode 2.
08-31-2006 | 07:37 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
Jason is correct
Mode 3 is throttle aileron, left stick, rudder, elevator on the right stick. Provided that you know which hand is your right hand. LOL
This is the mode I fly and have always flown. I have to get my radios rewired as here they don't offer them in mode 3.
I can't say it's better, but it has it's advantages in rolls IMO.
Mode 3 is throttle aileron, left stick, rudder, elevator on the right stick. Provided that you know which hand is your right hand. LOL
This is the mode I fly and have always flown. I have to get my radios rewired as here they don't offer them in mode 3.
I can't say it's better, but it has it's advantages in rolls IMO.
08-31-2006 | 10:04 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
Ok, so mode 3 is what I want to try then? *sigh*
I wonder if I'll have to rewire my 9303. I really, really hope not! Let me go look at my manual again...
I wonder if I'll have to rewire my 9303. I really, really hope not! Let me go look at my manual again...
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Jason is correct
Mode 3 is throttle aileron, left stick, rudder, elevator on the right stick. Provided that you know which hand is your right hand. LOL
This is the mode I fly and have always flown. I have to get my radios rewired as here they don't offer them in mode 3.
I can't say it's better, but it has it's advantages in rolls IMO.
Jason is correct
Mode 3 is throttle aileron, left stick, rudder, elevator on the right stick. Provided that you know which hand is your right hand. LOL
This is the mode I fly and have always flown. I have to get my radios rewired as here they don't offer them in mode 3.
I can't say it's better, but it has it's advantages in rolls IMO.
09-01-2006 | 03:00 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
So RVM's junior radio won't do this? And patternflyer1 says Airtronics won't either??? There's really no excuse for a computer radio being unable to program to mode 3 nowadays.
Radio South used to rewire mine for a nominal fee in days long passed. Give them a try.
Radio South used to rewire mine for a nominal fee in days long passed. Give them a try.
09-01-2006 | 07:24 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
The JR 10X requires that the connectors going to the trim tabs and stick pots be switched around. Not as easy as in the 9Z, but can certainly be done at home.
09-01-2006 | 10:18 PM
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RE: Which stick mode is the best for F3A?
No, sorry. The hard part is getting the 10X's back off. Once inside you'll see a bunch of small white connectors with 2 or 3 wires each. Just trace them to the trim tabs and pots that you want to switch, and switch them.
