Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Airplanes > Pattern Universe - RC Pattern Flying > RC Pattern Flying
 CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread! >

CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Community
Search
Notices
RC Pattern Flying Discuss all topics pertaining to RC Pattern Flying in this forum.

CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-20-2008 | 10:20 PM
  #1  
betatester21's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos AiresBuenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Hi everyone!
I was thinking about building my first acrobatic, and I've choosen an Epsilon 90. I want to keep this thread absolutely updated, as a log of it's build. As I live in Argentina, it was very easy for me to get the plane directly from the factory, but on the other hand, kind of difficult to get some specfic hardare.
As the first step, I was spending many hours downloading pics of the plane and deciding it's decoration... here are the results of MS Visio drawings:

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ec88241.jpg
Views:	262
Size:	69.0 KB
ID:	953715   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sn40648.jpg
Views:	184
Size:	47.7 KB
ID:	953716   Click image for larger version

Name:	Uz69607.jpg
Views:	189
Size:	86.5 KB
ID:	953717   Click image for larger version

Name:	Xr45401.jpg
Views:	278
Size:	95.2 KB
ID:	953718   Click image for larger version

Name:	Cn79764.jpg
Views:	370
Size:	92.2 KB
ID:	953719   Click image for larger version

Name:	Hy35036.jpg
Views:	205
Size:	78.0 KB
ID:	953720   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fh79640.jpg
Views:	228
Size:	44.3 KB
ID:	953721  
Old 05-20-2008 | 11:41 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,175
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Denham Springs, LA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Will it be electric or glow?
Old 05-21-2008 | 06:23 PM
  #3  
betatester21's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos AiresBuenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Hi mjfrederick...

The powerplant will be glow. I have a NIB OS 91FX to use, wich some people said that it won't be able to drive the Epsilon with the necessary authority, but it will be mi first acrobatic, so I think it's OK... last week, I saw one flying on a ST61, and it was relatively decent.

I have the plane Here are some pics of it:
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ro41807.jpg
Views:	240
Size:	182.4 KB
ID:	954230   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ws56436.jpg
Views:	241
Size:	125.4 KB
ID:	954231   Click image for larger version

Name:	Lq37590.jpg
Views:	228
Size:	149.6 KB
ID:	954232   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ga78278.jpg
Views:	191
Size:	68.3 KB
ID:	954233   Click image for larger version

Name:	Bm76053.jpg
Views:	193
Size:	85.3 KB
ID:	954234   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ct17172.jpg
Views:	201
Size:	107.9 KB
ID:	954235   Click image for larger version

Name:	Su37196.jpg
Views:	190
Size:	87.5 KB
ID:	954236   Click image for larger version

Name:	Gf18189.jpg
Views:	182
Size:	110.7 KB
ID:	954237  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Po98046.jpg
Views:	209
Size:	105.0 KB
ID:	954238   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sf37740.jpg
Views:	197
Size:	124.7 KB
ID:	954239   Click image for larger version

Name:	Gm59406.jpg
Views:	201
Size:	131.7 KB
ID:	954240   Click image for larger version

Name:	Wh37317.jpg
Views:	231
Size:	120.0 KB
ID:	954241  
Old 05-21-2008 | 06:45 PM
  #4  
betatester21's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos AiresBuenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

As you can see, the plane is the CA Model "Ready To Cover" version. The overal quality is excellent. All the surfaces comes already sanded, and are really smooth to the touch. There are just a couple of places that can be better, but anyway, leaves the chinese RTF and almost RTF planes well behind.

I also have the engine and many hardware. The Monokote rolls are here, too. A little issue with this, is the fact that the color isn't what I really spected, talking about the "Neon red": it's "neoner" than I thonk!! It also comes with a nice advice on the roll (see the pics!!!).

More pics:

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Wt59377.jpg
Views:	185
Size:	119.2 KB
ID:	954261   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yt61997.jpg
Views:	188
Size:	112.7 KB
ID:	954262   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yd82412.jpg
Views:	219
Size:	115.4 KB
ID:	954263   Click image for larger version

Name:	Kd89448.jpg
Views:	284
Size:	94.9 KB
ID:	954264   Click image for larger version

Name:	Se46082.jpg
Views:	223
Size:	130.9 KB
ID:	954265   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sj71593.jpg
Views:	204
Size:	101.2 KB
ID:	954266   Click image for larger version

Name:	Rt31541.jpg
Views:	177
Size:	195.0 KB
ID:	954267   Click image for larger version

Name:	Sr60602.jpg
Views:	176
Size:	144.4 KB
ID:	954268  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Qo11198.jpg
Views:	212
Size:	150.9 KB
ID:	954269  
Old 05-21-2008 | 07:00 PM
  #5  
Gringo Flyer's Avatar
Senior Member
My Feedback: (18)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Formosa, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

The OS 91 will be plenty of power. It wont 3D with authority put it will have unlimited verticle.

I have had one for over 2 years flying with a ST90 with jett muffler. Its a fantastic flyer.

To get the most out of it you need to get good servos. Mine has futabab 9202 on elevator and rudder and 9001 on ailerons. I fly mine for F3A practice and have minimum throws on mine.

I went pull-pull on rudder and elevator.

The only negative I can see is how the cowl is setup. Its hard to install well. I ended up reinforcing the inside of the cowl with ply and then built brackets on the front of the plane to mount the cowl to. Let me know if you would like some pics.

Old 05-21-2008 | 07:44 PM
  #6  
betatester21's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos AiresBuenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Hi Gringo!
I don't want it to do 3D... I just want to make decent loops and start to get involved in F3A.
I will use a NIB JR XP7202, wich I have purchased in Madison, Wisconsin. It's 72MHz synthetized, with DS-821 digital servos... they're supposed to be really good servos. It's my first JR, so I will compare it with Futaba later.
I was paying special attention to the cowl support, and I got the same sensation you told me. I will see what I can do about it. I will post some new pics tomorrow.

SPANISH:
Hola, ché!!
No me interesa hacer 3D, pero sÃ* quiero poder hacer loops decentes y empezar a meterme en la categorÃ*a F3A.
Voy a usar un equipo nuevo, un JR XP7202, que compré en un viaje a USA. Si bien es de 72MHz, es sintetizado. Viene con servos DS-821... se suponen que son buenos. Es mi primer JR, asÃ* que mas adelante lo voy a comparar con Futaba.
Le estuve prestando especial atención al soporte del cowl, y ma dió la sensación que vos me transmitiste. Voy a ver qué hago... Mañana voy a poner nuevas fotos.
Old 05-22-2008 | 05:32 AM
  #7  
Jeff Boyd 2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Very nice flying plane. You will be very happy with it.

I flew one for a few Months in Pattern competitions when I started (about 2 years ago). I wanted to fly Pattern but didn't have a plane, so a friend loaned it to me and I am grateful (have sinced moved on to 2M planes, but have great memories of the Epsilon).

It has a OS 120AX fitted and has awesome power. A 91FX will be ample for Pattern. If you decide you want more power, the 120 will bolt straight in with no modification.

PS. the plane is still flying today
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ro42072.jpg
Views:	247
Size:	67.0 KB
ID:	954491  
Old 05-22-2008 | 10:20 AM
  #8  
najary's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,201
Likes: 0
Received 37 Likes on 32 Posts
From: Ramat Hashrone, ISRAEL
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!


ORIGINAL: betatester21

As you can see, the plane is the CA Model "Ready To Cover" version. The overal quality is excellent. All the surfaces comes already sanded, and are really smooth to the touch. There are just a couple of places that can be better, but anyway, leaves the chinese RTF and almost RTF planes well behind.

I also have the engine and many hardware. The Monokote rolls are here, too. A little issue with this, is the fact that the color isn't what I really spected, talking about the "Neon red": it's "neoner" than I thonk!! It also comes with a nice advice on the roll (see the pics!!!).

More pics:

Hi

I advice you not to use any Neon color, It won't take long till it becomes very dim.

Regards,

Isaac Najary
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Mk25944.jpg
Views:	210
Size:	144.4 KB
ID:	954621  
Old 05-22-2008 | 09:34 PM
  #9  
Gringo Flyer's Avatar
Senior Member
My Feedback: (18)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Formosa, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!


ORIGINAL: najary


ORIGINAL: betatester21

As you can see, the plane is the CA Model "Ready To Cover" version. The overal quality is excellent. All the surfaces comes already sanded, and are really smooth to the touch. There are just a couple of places that can be better, but anyway, leaves the chinese RTF and almost RTF planes well behind.

I also have the engine and many hardware. The Monokote rolls are here, too. A little issue with this, is the fact that the color isn't what I really spected, talking about the "Neon red": it's "neoner" than I thonk!! It also comes with a nice advice on the roll (see the pics!!!).

More pics:

Hi

I advice you not to use any Neon color, It won't take long till it becomes very dim.

Regards,

Isaac Najary
Thats funny. Its like there saying that the product is poor and not to expect much of it.

I guess if you put sunscreen on it maybe it wont fade in with the uv rays
Old 05-26-2008 | 07:40 PM
  #10  
betatester21's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos AiresBuenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

I'm back...
Yes, the advice on the Monokote rolls is kinda ridiculous... I plan to use it anyway, because if not, it should be stored for ever inside a black box !!!!

OK, back to work... I started the slotting work on the stabs and the wings. Also covered the stab completely put the control horn in a stab half. Not the another... see the pics:
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Jh16632.jpg
Views:	191
Size:	90.9 KB
ID:	957542   Click image for larger version

Name:	Je10971.jpg
Views:	183
Size:	99.7 KB
ID:	957543   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ot48475.jpg
Views:	187
Size:	133.7 KB
ID:	957544   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ex69401.jpg
Views:	182
Size:	101.2 KB
ID:	957545   Click image for larger version

Name:	Yj64503.jpg
Views:	173
Size:	105.3 KB
ID:	957546   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ne56363.jpg
Views:	169
Size:	99.6 KB
ID:	957547  
Old 05-26-2008 | 07:52 PM
  #11  
betatester21's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos AiresBuenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

When the stab was completely done, I wanted to se how it fits in the fuse. [:@][:@][:@] Agh!!!!! it has 12mm (half an inch!!!) smaller chord than the fuselage slot!! What the... I was very lucky: my friend bought his second Epsilon, due to a crash... he lend me his new stabilizator, to compare and eventually, use it (he's going to use his own original one... it's still in one piece!).
Lucky me, here are the pics of the size comparation. I'm almost sure that the stab is NOT of an Epsilon, or it's for a .40 size.
I will call CA Model tomorrow. Let's see what they say (a simple stab? —I don't think it will be much trouble).

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Jh16328.jpg
Views:	176
Size:	91.1 KB
ID:	957567   Click image for larger version

Name:	Xs58472.jpg
Views:	184
Size:	97.9 KB
ID:	957568   Click image for larger version

Name:	Fk17192.jpg
Views:	176
Size:	94.7 KB
ID:	957569   Click image for larger version

Name:	Kd89914.jpg
Views:	172
Size:	99.7 KB
ID:	957570   Click image for larger version

Name:	Pa34276.jpg
Views:	180
Size:	263.6 KB
ID:	957571   Click image for larger version

Name:	Ne54178.jpg
Views:	212
Size:	97.6 KB
ID:	957572  
Old 05-27-2008 | 03:55 AM
  #12  
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

my stab came like that as well, it did not fit inside the slot nicely and needed to be wedged into the correct incidence and position using thin balsa sheets. I'd be interested to hear what the factory says.
Old 05-27-2008 | 07:24 AM
  #13  
Gringo Flyer's Avatar
Senior Member
My Feedback: (18)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Formosa, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Its been a long time since my build but I do remember having some challenges with the stab as well.
Old 05-27-2008 | 04:20 PM
  #14  
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Does anyone have photos of how they fitted the cowl. Does it fit over the firewall or should those ply rings be glued to the former to support the cowl sitting flush against the firewall?

Mines almost ready for covering now.
Old 05-27-2008 | 04:40 PM
  #15  
betatester21's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos AiresBuenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

I've talk to the factory this morning, and a girl told me that there was nobody who would help me at that moment. She took a note about the issue, and they will call me tomorrow.
Anyway, I've continued the work on the plane: started to cover the wings and ailerons... with some problems. I will post pics tomorrow, with a more advanced work.
Yes Funtana, the ply rings conform the support for the cowl. The cowl must be mounted in order to be flush with tyhe fuselage. As I had the same question made to a friend of mine, he advised me to add 6 ply blocks around the firewall rings to mount the screws. Four are sugested, but two more are recommended at both sides of the silencer (in the case that you use a 2 stroke).

Tomorrow, pics and the factory response (I spect!).
Old 05-27-2008 | 04:48 PM
  #16  
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Thanks for the answer! Are there 4 ply rings or just two? I came across 2, for the top and bottom. Maybe I threw the other two out so I'll have to cut them out of scrap.
Old 05-27-2008 | 08:03 PM
  #17  
Gringo Flyer's Avatar
Senior Member
My Feedback: (18)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,370
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Formosa, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

The cowl support is pretty weak and several of mine broke. The other problem I had was fastening the cowl down to such small parts was bad on the cowl. Like I said in the early post I ended up reinforcing the inside of the cowl and building a bracket down the side of the firewall.

The challenge is that if you put the cowl touching the fuse, with vibration the cowl will cut through the monokote. So you have to mount the cowl so it doesnt vibrate against the fuse. I also put a little epoxy around the lip of the fuse to keep the cowl from cutting into the fuse.
Old 05-27-2008 | 09:18 PM
  #18  
My Feedback: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,145
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Houston, TX
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

I just started on my Epsilon today. I'm building from the kit. There are a few parts that the instructions don't reference and there are no plans to give me additional clues.

So my question is, what are the parts taped to the cockpit floor in betatester21's first set of photos? Something to do with the cowl?

Thanks,
Dave
Old 05-28-2008 | 06:39 AM
  #19  
Timbba's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Raahe, FINLAND
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

those parts are the cowl support ring...



BTW. never had any vibration issues with the cowl... have flown well over 800 flights and still in active F3A service
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Ay73951.jpg
Views:	281
Size:	64.8 KB
ID:	958714  
Old 05-28-2008 | 09:41 AM
  #20  
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Hi Timbba! How often do you have to change the feul tubing in the nose ring of your epsilon? I just did the same to my 110 sized model and am not sure if the fuel tubing will stay put for many flights. Did you glue it on by any chance? Thanks!
Old 05-28-2008 | 05:57 PM
  #21  
My Feedback: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,145
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Houston, TX
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!


ORIGINAL: Timbba

those parts are the cowl support ring...
Thanks Timbba. I eventually surmised that was what they were for but the picture really helped. The instructions in the kit don't give a clue on the cowl mounting.

Dave
Old 05-29-2008 | 04:56 PM
  #22  
Timbba's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Raahe, FINLAND
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Funtana140, I left that nosering off... I made that carbon-balsa sandwich firewall in the middle of contest season and was in little hurry to get practicing again... Worked fin without nosering so I haven't bothered to install it...

But my friend has same kind of nose ring on his Funtana 140 for FZ140L. It has flown about 200 flights and I think he has changed the tubing only once...



Old 06-25-2008 | 05:41 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Buenos Aires, ARGENTINA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

betatester, what brand of control horns did you use? Looks great..

(spanish): que marca de cuernos usaste? se ven muy buenas... no se donde comprar en Buenos Aires ese tipo de cuernos con rulemanes, donde los compraste?

Espero vuelvas a publicar fotos del avion, esta quedando muy bueno..

Saludos
Old 07-16-2008 | 11:54 PM
  #24  
My Feedback: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,145
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From: Houston, TX
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Today I completed my kit built Epsilon 90 and started running in the new OS .91 FX. A month and a half from box to runway, not bad considering it didn't even get my full attention.

Weight turned out just under 7 1/2 lbs. CG is about perfect with the battery in the nose and no additional weight. I'll probably want it a little farther back but it's good for a start point and all CG adjustment can be done by just moving the battery.

I can't wait for the weekend!

Betatester, have you gotten your stab problem resolved?

Dave
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Om34408.jpg
Views:	281
Size:	128.5 KB
ID:	992193   Click image for larger version

Name:	Rn39401.jpg
Views:	294
Size:	177.2 KB
ID:	992194   Click image for larger version

Name:	Rw57771.jpg
Views:	279
Size:	64.4 KB
ID:	992195  
Old 07-17-2008 | 01:57 AM
  #25  
Jeff Boyd 2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Default RE: CA Model Epsilon 90 building thread!

Nice work . . . that looks fantastic [sm=thumbup.gif]

I think you will love this plane ! ! They fly great.

Cheers, JB


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.