Has anyone delt with this manufactor before.
This is the one I am looking at, http://www.cerebus.co.za/ca/Fantasy/fantasy.htm

I am thinking of either a OS 200 or a DL 30
TECH SPECS
Wing span: 1960 mm
Fuse: 1990 mm
Weight: 4550 - 4750 g (Glow Version)
Weight: 4800 - 4950 g (Electric Version)
Engine: 1.40 - 1.70 2T - 4T
Electric: Hacker C50 13XL
Design: Chip Hyde & Marcelo Colombo
Wing Area: 67.0 dm2

Mongrel, they're not the manufacturer for those kits, they're CA models, made in Argentina.

The hobbyman has some in aus, which you might be able to get cheap.

Thanks,
I just gave them a call and they have some in stock . even hooked on this one attached as its a little dif.
Thanks for your help, I am either looking at getting a pattern plane that will fit a OS 200 or a Gas engine around 30 40 cc


Cheers
Jason

You can fly pattern with the Fantasy, but that airplane is really ment for artistic aerobatics or 3D. Marcelo Colombo thedesigner used to fly it with the OS140RX, the aircraft was amazingly light.

Regards

If I remember right the fantasy is based on the PL Plod's Smaragd which was a lovely plane to fly.

The Fantasy is a 3D version of the Eclipse. The Eclipse was very similar to the Smaragd

Arch

ok now what engine? I would like a gas engine like a DL 30 just want to get away from glow what do you guys think?

Jason

A friend of mine has a CA Model Genesis with a ZDZ 40 Re F3A Gasoline engine with a ES Composites carbon fiber pipe. Very good combo with good power but not as much as YS 170 or Hacker powered models. My biggest concern is airframe durability because engine vibrations. This models are built glass-foam-glass sandwich, I think it could be a better choice for the DLE 30 gas engine a wood airframe like the Epsilon 120.

Just my opinion.

Jason

You might consider the SAP 180 gasoline engine. I have been doing testing on the engine in a pattern test bed and it is promising enough that I will not use my beloved webras in my new design in favor of the SAP 180. I have thread here on RCU regarding the experience. Very close in output to the ZDZ40 (I have this engine too) but much lighter and much much smoother running. It is a rear intake and rear exhaust engine which is quite well suited to pattern

Matt Kebabjian

Forget non injection OS200. Used it in pattern competitions last season and can say it's not enough power even for 4700g plane.

I am getting a Moki 180 30cc, that should do the job.

I had a Moki 180 glow....nice engine with very good table manners. Very heavy for pattern but will work. Turned an 18x10 apc at decent rpm but not quite like the webra 160 on pipe or ys 170. I eventually put a pipe on the Moki and that helped a bunch. But now it was even heavier

Nope, the SAP 180 with ES composite gas pipe is about as good as a webra 145 and slightly better than os 140 rx. Weight wise is about 3 ozs delta due to the ignition module

FWIW2U

MattK