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klhoard 01-01-2012 07:49 AM

What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
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1. Get out to fly at least once per week.
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2. Finish in the top 20% in Advanced at the Nats . . .
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Jetdesign 01-01-2012 07:54 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Stop experimenting and listen to my peers :D

Going to be tough [&o]

klhoard 01-01-2012 07:56 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: gaRCfield

Stop experimenting and listen to my peers :D

Going to be tough [&o]
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Hopefully by "peers" you're not referring to fellow posters here on RCU?
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ArchNemesis 01-01-2012 08:11 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
To form a closer bond with the "Rolling Loop". They hate me, I hate them. We need to get to know one another better.



wattsup 01-01-2012 08:35 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Mark, I'm glad you brought up the "rolling loop". There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in "bridging the gap" to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A. Just my thoughts, Everette

stuntflyr 01-01-2012 10:19 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
They call that "Category Creep". It's the effect that has pretty much caused the demise of full sized (man carrying) aerobatic competition in the US.
Chris...

J Lachowski 01-01-2012 10:31 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: wattsup

Mark, I'm glad you brought up the ''rolling loop''. There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in ''bridging the gap'' to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A! Let me take this a step further, I see there are plans in one of the first contests of 2012 here in D3 for all classes to fly 4 rounds of AMA/F3A and then 2 unknown rounds! This all sounds great on the surface until you introduce the specter of losing your 'prized'' pattern plane! NO THANKS, I'm not interested in yet another grand experiment or taking on additional risks just because you, the CD, thinks he either knows what's best for me or wants to make his contest more interesting! Let's see how many flyers will attend this contest! Any bets? Just my thoughts, Everette
I can tell you, as Chairman of the Sequence Committee, it ain't happening. Read my lips, "No Integrated Rollers in Masters!" Everette, please refrain from making false statements.

JRgraham 01-01-2012 10:36 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: J Lachowski
Everette, please refrain from making false statements.
Wouldnt that be nice..

wattsup 01-01-2012 10:54 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Hi Joe, I was just repeating what was said in another thread here on RCU by one of YOUR fellow sequence committee members. You can read it for yourself in the thread/poll above related to "making weight with our planes for the Nationals". I don't make "false statements" and don't appreciate you accusing me of doing so! BTW, Shimano who asked you? So now what? Everette

J Lachowski 01-01-2012 11:10 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Sorry Everette, but I did not see that other statement.

JRgraham 01-01-2012 11:14 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Last Ichecked this was a 'public' forum, Everette.

NeilRivera 01-01-2012 11:31 AM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: wattsup

Mark, I'm glad you brought up the ''rolling loop''. There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in ''bridging the gap'' to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A! Let me take this a step further, I see there are plans in one of the first contests of 2012 here in D3 for all classes to fly 4 rounds of AMA/F3A and then 2 unknown rounds! This all sounds great on the surface until you introduce the specter of losing your 'prized'' pattern plane! NO THANKS, I'm not interested in yet another grand experiment or taking on additional risks just because you, the CD, thinks he either knows what's best for me or wants to make his contest more interesting! Let's see how many flyers will attend this contest! Any bets? Just my thoughts, Everette
That is what separates the Men from the Boys...

vquick 01-01-2012 12:01 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
I can garante we will have no less than 30 pilots we have a blast last year and this one will be better but if a simple unknow sequence is too much for you thats ok you dont have to participate

2012 resolution [:-]
Show to wattsup i will have more pilots in this contest than last year
Show to him also pilots are not scare of unknow sequence
Win the nats move to master so i can also kick his a....


ORIGINAL: wattsup

Mark, I'm glad you brought up the ''rolling loop''. There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in ''bridging the gap'' to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A! Let me take this a step further, I see there are plans in one of the first contests of 2012 here in D3 for all classes to fly 4 rounds of AMA/F3A and then 2 unknown rounds! This all sounds great on the surface until you introduce the specter of losing your 'prized'' pattern plane! NO THANKS, I'm not interested in yet another grand experiment or taking on additional risks just because you, the CD, thinks he either knows what's best for me or wants to make his contest more interesting! Let's see how many flyers will attend this contest! Any bets? Just my thoughts, Everette

corch 01-01-2012 01:33 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
1.  Practice more, with more focus. (As long as "real life" cooperates)
1b.  Practice with pattern fliers, even if I have to travel.
2.  Convince 1 person to attend and compete in a contest that doesn't already fly pattern.
3.  Attend more contests in D4 and D5.

Ryan Smith 01-01-2012 02:00 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Lower the weight limit. :D

Ryan Smith 01-01-2012 02:04 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: wattsup

Mark, I'm glad you brought up the ''rolling loop''. There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in ''bridging the gap'' to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A! Let me take this a step further, I see there are plans in one of the first contests of 2012 here in D3 for all classes to fly 4 rounds of AMA/F3A and then 2 unknown rounds! This all sounds great on the surface until you introduce the specter of losing your 'prized'' pattern plane! NO THANKS, I'm not interested in yet another grand experiment or taking on additional risks just because you, the CD, thinks he either knows what's best for me or wants to make his contest more interesting! Let's see how many flyers will attend this contest! Any bets? Just my thoughts, Everette
I don't know about any rules proposals to add rolling radii (loops, circles) to Masters as I do not keep abreast of that. I will agree with Everette, if it is in the works, I don't think it's a good idea. I think that Masters has a good level of difficulty as-is. Those wanting no holds barred maneuver selection should move to F3A, as it IS the destination class.


Ryan Smith 01-01-2012 02:36 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: vquick

I can garante we will have no less than 30 pilots we have a blast last year and this one will be better but if a simple unknow sequence is too much for you thats ok you dont have to participate

2012 resolution [:-]
Show to wattsup i will have more pilots in this contest than last year
Show to him also pilots are not scare of unknow sequence
Win the nats move to master so i can also kick his a....


ORIGINAL: wattsup

Mark, I'm glad you brought up the ''rolling loop''. There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in ''bridging the gap'' to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A! Let me take this a step further, I see there are plans in one of the first contests of 2012 here in D3 for all classes to fly 4 rounds of AMA/F3A and then 2 unknown rounds! This all sounds great on the surface until you introduce the specter of losing your 'prized'' pattern plane! NO THANKS, I'm not interested in yet another grand experiment or taking on additional risks just because you, the CD, thinks he either knows what's best for me or wants to make his contest more interesting! Let's see how many flyers will attend this contest! Any bets? Just my thoughts, Everette

Deep thoughts...

You shouldn't show that you'll have more pilots to settle a pissing match. Do it for the want to grow the hobby.

Unknowns are not hard. They fly them in Sportsman at IMAC contests, but they also have maneuvers in that sequence that are FAI-type (loop with integrated roll over top) as well.

Why do you have to win Advanced to move up to Masters to beat someone? That title isn't going to impress anybody in the chair, your flying skills will. Unless you can make gigantic strides in your flying between now and the Nats, the Nats isn't going to do anything for you as far as giving you the ability to win. Also, I'm going to pick on Everette's age a little bit because he's retired. It may cost me, but I think it's funny nonetheless.

A friend and coworker was going through A&P school. One of the instructors was up there in age, and most of the A&P students tend to be younger. One of them got into it with the instructor and made the comment that he was going to kick his ass. The instructor looked at him and said "So what? If you kick my ass, everybody will be like big deal, you kicked an old man's ass. But if I kick YOUR ass, you'll never live it down." You should want to do your best, not set a goal to beat someone just because.

If you want to set a goal that would be very meaningful, reconfirm at the NATS this year that you are the best d*** contest chef there is. ;) That's impressive.

rix 01-01-2012 02:49 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: Ryan Smith

Lower the weight limit. :D
Don't get me started...[8D]

jetmech43 01-01-2012 03:17 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
to figure out all this electric stuff

wattsup 01-01-2012 03:28 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Hi Ryan, It's OK, I don't mind you "picking on my age a little bit". Your story about the A&P instructor and his student reminded me of a similiar situation I experienced as the Charge RN in a Lock- Down Unit for the criminally insane a few years ago prior to my retirement. I had a young male patient that thought he was going to "run the show" and found out the hard way that some us senior citizen types were more than willing to take violence to the next level!___Everette

crash1ace 01-01-2012 03:59 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
To practice more,,, and that dreaded Double I...

MetallicaJunkie 01-01-2012 05:09 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: ArchNemesis

To form a closer bond with the ''Rolling Loop''. They hate me, I hate them. We need to get to know one another better.



same here

vquick 01-01-2012 05:28 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 


ORIGINAL: Ryan Smith



ORIGINAL: vquick

I can garante we will have no less than 30 pilots we have a blast last year and this one will be better but if a simple unknow sequence is too much for you thats ok you dont have to participate

2012 resolution [:-]
Show to wattsup i will have more pilots in this contest than last year
Show to him also pilots are not scare of unknow sequence
Win the nats move to master so i can also kick his a....


ORIGINAL: wattsup

Mark, I'm glad you brought up the ''rolling loop''. There is a move afoot in the sequence committee to introduce it in the next/future Master's sequence. What a mistake! Most Master's flyers, that I know of, are not interested in ''bridging the gap'' to F3A. It's real easy, if you want to fly F3A, MOVE UP! Just please don't ask me to put my planes at risk just because you think it's best for all of us. Over these many years, I've seen more than my fair share of F3A pilots that would struggle to be competitive in the Advanced class let alone F3A! Let me take this a step further, I see there are plans in one of the first contests of 2012 here in D3 for all classes to fly 4 rounds of AMA/F3A and then 2 unknown rounds! This all sounds great on the surface until you introduce the specter of losing your 'prized'' pattern plane! NO THANKS, I'm not interested in yet another grand experiment or taking on additional risks just because you, the CD, thinks he either knows what's best for me or wants to make his contest more interesting! Let's see how many flyers will attend this contest! Any bets? Just my thoughts, Everette

Deep thoughts...

You shouldn't show that you'll have more pilots to settle a pissing match. Do it for the want to grow the hobby.

Unknowns are not hard. They fly them in Sportsman at IMAC contests, but they also have maneuvers in that sequence that are FAI-type (loop with integrated roll over top) as well.

Why do you have to win Advanced to move up to Masters to beat someone? That title isn't going to impress anybody in the chair, your flying skills will. Unless you can make gigantic strides in your flying between now and the Nats, the Nats isn't going to do anything for you as far as giving you the ability to win. Also, I'm going to pick on Everette's age a little bit because he's retired. It may cost me, but I think it's funny nonetheless.

A friend and coworker was going through A&P school. One of the instructors was up there in age, and most of the A&P students tend to be younger. One of them got into it with the instructor and made the comment that he was going to kick his ass. The instructor looked at him and said ''So what? If you kick my ass, everybody will be like big deal, you kicked an old man's ass. But if I kick YOUR ass, you'll never live it down.'' You should want to do your best, not set a goal to beat someone just because.

If you want to set a goal that would be very meaningful, reconfirm at the NATS this year that you are the best d*** contest chef there is. ;) That's impressive.
Im planning to move to Master any way even if I dont win in the Nats and cause I want to challenge my self

ArchNemesis 01-01-2012 05:48 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 
Can we put this thread back on track? Everette, no offense intended, but you have a habit of derailing the topic of a thread to serve your own agenda. Can you simply start a new thread with that thought? The integrated rolling manuever conversation is a good one... but it's worthy of it's own discussion.

So what other pattern resolutions are out there??



vquick 01-01-2012 06:00 PM

RE: What is YOUR 2012 New-Year's Pattern Resolution?
 

ORIGINAL: wattsup

Hi Ryan, It's OK, I don't mind you ''picking on my age a little bit''. Your story about the A&P instructor and his student reminded me of a similiar situation I experienced as the Charge RN in a Lock- Down Unit for the criminally insane a few years ago prior to my retirement. I had a young male patient that thought he was going to ''run the show'' and found out the hard way that some us senior citizen types were more than willing to take violence to the next level! ! You know I really thought I was experiencing de ja vu all over again! When Victor was rambling on I could have sworn his words were coming out of the mouth of his ''daddy'' Mike Hester___OMG! In response, I have two things to ask or say. Victor are you speaking in an official capacity for your sponsor 2DogRC? Also, you may well beat me in a D3 contest next year but, and I do mean but, it's going to take all of your little rib eating, finger sucking buddies to grease you up or it's not going to happen! A new world awaits you when you finally do move up to Master's. I wish you well and hope 2Dog RC continues to feel you represent their best interests_____Everette
At least I support my Distric 100% and help anybody how need help even to you I gave you a 30% discount cupon for 2dogs R/C so you can order a speed contoller. I apport more to this hobby in all aspec than you. You talk and talk and that it how many contest you flew this past season 1 take a look how many I flew and also Cd a contest in the 4 years I been fliying pattern in D3 I saw you competing 1 time this past year and no nats me over 25 contest and 3 nats so when you start suporting D3 then you can talk. And I speek for my self no for any sponsor. I now in D3 we have a lot of good pilots in master and I will get my a.. kick but not by you. this will be my last post in this See you at the Field when you showup.


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