World cup
 

Hi all,

The world cup is just around the corner but all is very quiet so how....

I am predicting CPLR first with ONDA close second

Whats the Gossip out there I wonder.....Go aussie....

regards

I heard New Zealand will beat Australia 😊

In your dreams ........

rgds

Lol... I've been waiting for a bite 😊😊

Is there is list that shows the pilots from each country?

Congratulations goes to Wolfgang Matt for winning!

Wow, and I thought he retired from FAI competition! :-)

So now that people are biting .....
Does anyone have a list of competitors with equipment they will be using or is it a top secret.

I hear the Four Stroke power plant will be making a comeback.

Can you imagine :
HANNO PRETNER first place
WOLFGANG MATT second place
NARUKE ...... third place

Since the final entry form had to be sent before 1st of August, hopefully the homepage of the event will be updated very soon. Onda, CLPR, Nurila and some others I guess will be among the top five :)

You mean World Championships !!?
 

Hi Mavros,
Looks like a very small entry with some big F3A countries missing altogether.

Likely to be very windy - maybe too windy at times with it being so close to the coast.
If it is, the better guys will cope but it becomes a bit of a lottery and gets spoilt some compared to what is flown in calmer weather !!

Brian

Probably no more than 40 entries. Only needing 10 judges - As Brian says below, 40 - 80 entries only requires 10 judges.

Wow, 40 entries is about 1/2 of a typical WC field. Who is missing? Is pattern interest fading world wide or is this just an anomaly?

Hi,
Yes if the No,, of competitors is between 40 and 80 then 10 judges is the requirement !!
I think there will be a lot more than 40 but maybe not more than 80 !?

Brian

I think the ELECTRICS know they can't cope with the wind so they are staying home HE HE HE........

Seriously I hope its not true and we get to have another very successful world event.

regards

Looks like 27 countries so 80 give or take. Some will have 4 (juniors, defending World Champ) and some less than 3. Looks like the major contenders will be there.

World Cup or Wold Championships?
 

Ok, confusion here, are we talking "World Cup" as in the heading or "World Championships" like in Argentina later in the year"

The World cup is done and dusted, won by Wolfgang Matt as I reported.

They are only using 10 judges, so less than 80 entries.

Sorry RUDIX,

My mistake yes we are referring to the World Championships in Argentina.....

regards

Hey Scott,

Got the new YS200 fired up yet...
Are you taking it Argentina....

rgds

May I ask the source of your information? Bulletin 2 lists 20 judges?

It would be nice to have the entrants listed on the website.

What makes you think it will be windier than other WC?

Last time in Argentina was in their windy season, August. Not so now maybe?

Hey Con,

The 200's were shipped yesterday, so hopefully get them end of next week.

I'm not going to Argentina.

Are you going to the APA Champs?

I received a email from Argentina F3A WC saying so.

Hi,
August ?????
More like 9th to 18th November 2007 !!!!
It was windy.
I said likely to be windy, but it's future weather so who knows ?

Brian

Hi Scott,
Ah, were you the Australian reserve judge ?? Pity.

If the entry is close to but less than 80 and if the organiser wanted and/or could afford 20 judges it would still be 10 only !!!!?
This is because the SC says ; 'must' be 10 !!
Are the 10 who are going listed someplace ??

Brian

Hi Brian,

Were? Pity? Not sure what you mean by this?

Yes, that's how I interpret the rules to be.

I haven't seen a revised judges list yet.

Hi Scott,
Yes I can see the problem with my phrasing !
Rephrased ;
Are/were you the Aus,, reserve judge.
If you were and if now your not - that would be a pity.
If you still are - good.
Are you going, regardless ?

Brian

I am the reserve judge for Australia only. If the Australian judge is cut, then I would no longer be reserve. I haven't heard one way or the other yet.

No, I won't be going to this one.

Scott,
That is what I was 'assuming'.
If there are 79 entries the 10 judges will be busy !!

Brian

I have also heard only 10 judges because of the entry.

Chad

I think the possibility of adverse weather conditions may have affected entry numbers?

A few have predicted it to be quite windy. Wait and see now.

I heard the entry was in the mid 70's, in 2007 I believe it was 78, so that would be comparable. I just think its a long trip and a bad time of year for many countries.

Most of the WC I have been too have been windy lol, maybe this one will be calm haha.

Chad

Judges List.

Judges
1 Mario Vagliente Argentina
2 John Brann Australia
3 Norbert Polatschek Austria
4 Pierrre Pignot France
5 Gianluigi Giannoni Italy
6 Ken Hirose Japan
7 Dietrich Altenkirch Germany
8 Javier Santa Maria Spain
9 Daniela Schmitter Switzerland
10 Don Ramsey USA
Reserve 01 Tom Erik Sorensen Norway

So now there are only 10 judges, looks like the one reserve is reserve for all now. That would explain why I received an email and John didn't. Emails only sent to those judges that are no longer required.

I was surprised no one posted information or pictures of the event here on RCU. In any case Hartley Hughson from Canada posted some information on his Facebook page for you Facebook users.
https://www.facebook.com/HartleyHughsonThey are midway through the preliminary rounds.
The event website also has the scores but the link does not work for everyone (including not for me).

I hope this trend reverses in the future. Belongs to Gernot Bruckmann one of the top pilots. Gone are the days of the sleek sexy looking pattern ships. And I do not mean the classic pattern ships but just going back 5-10 years. Will FAI ever reverse the trend again? Turnaround yes but reduce the amount of snaps and stick to large beautiful figures.

Hi Freddy,
Unfortunately, I think the days of the large beautiful figures are somewhat gone. The current WC has pilots flying large figures, but it is almost in slow motion. Nice to watch, but even more work to fly. The current large fuselage designs are a product of the constant speed judging criteria and the movement towards a significant portion of the maneuvers being flown in knife-edge; so you need a flying fuselage. I think the next rules adjustment for F3A will be a 2 meter cube.

2 meter cubed! Funny one but true. :D
For now I stick to my Valiant. Bryan Hebert still designs gorgeous looking airplanes that work well. I only fly the P17 the F's are just way too much effort for me to put time into at this point where I am in the hobby.
Greetings from Brazil! Right up the street of the current worlds Argentina. Check out the nice 1 km real airfield runway I get to fly at once in a while. PS - I competed in the 2007 F3A worlds in Argentina (different city further North).

BIG, BULBOUS, and BEAUTIFUL!!! ;)
Funny that you posted this; my wife picked out the Proteus at the USA Nats this year as the plane she liked the best.....after seeing Gernot's Pandora, well, it's growing on me. It's just so wild looking! If I Could buy one.....